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Anyone download the podcast of this mornings prog? I wanted to listen to the Tony Bates interview again but there seems to be a problem with it.
Unless its my laptop acting up
Podcasts are not working - only option is to choose the full show playback - think that interview is about an hour into the show0 -
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Going back to Saturday's programme, I don't know if it's just me but I always find Natasha Fennell to be really annoying in the TV preview slot as she only ever seems to be a mouthpiece for "TG Carrrr".
Also, I'm no apologist for vegetarians and vegans but I found Marian's fawning over that Irish butcher who sold foie gras in Selfridges (even though it was officially banned) to be completely over the top and badly misjudged.0 -
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dvcireland wrote: »"The very hungry Frenchman Raymond Blanc speaks to Marian about his life and his rise to the top of his game – cooking! "
I don't think he realised that he was speaking to an Irish based radio station. He kept refering to "your British/ English" food. I'd say an Irish chef would get the short shrift if on French radio, kept refering to your great German food.
on Irish poetry: ".....your great poets, Milton....."
Yea I noticed that ... nearly choked on my branflakes when I heard him mention Milton
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expect her to return at the end of june then !
didnt listen to sundays show, may get around to streaming it during the week as saturdays was bloody awfull.
literaly cant point to anything in it that wasnt droningly boring.
how the feck this can be defended is beyond me, i think half the reason she's going off is she's ran out of ideas for the year.0 -
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literaly cant point to anything in it that wasnt droningly boring.
how the feck this can be defended is beyond me, i think half the reason she's going off is she's ran out of ideas for the year.
Maybe, as Larry says, 'It just didn't suit you?' 0 -
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Jonny, What did you think of Humphrey's response to the criticism of his article?
well I was trying to avoid that Mrs D, cos I dont think you're gonna like what I say.. .. but here goes..
First of all, he sounds like a decent guy, who has a lot of experience in the area. And as he said himself, he is sure that "all parents do the best for their children".. But that doesnt mean that they are "perfect" parents. He is trying to analyse the thing DISPASSIONATELY, and whether he is right (i.e. parents DO unwittingly contribute to the child developing ADD, ADHD etc etc) or he is wrong (i.e. the conditions are entirely congenital), I think he is entitled to his opinion.
Of course parents are going to be upset if they read this as him saying "you contributed to giving your child the condition", but if he was to back off on researching this because he was upsetting people, this would not be very progressive.. My little cousin has been diagnosed with Asperger's, and her mother is a wonderful woman. But I'm sure she would admit herself that she didnt get everything right as a parent. And if there was something that she did wrong (again, unwittingly) that in some small way contributed to her daughter's syndrome, then I think it is worthwhile investigating.
Okay, form an orderly queue with your wet sponges.. 0 -
LOL:D Jonny when were you ever worried about what I think? As you know I mightn't always agree with you but I do (for the most part) enjoy your contributions. I agree with Humphreys that how we parent our children whether they are typically developing or have special needs can influence their behaviour in a positive or negative way.JonathanAnon wrote: »well I was trying to avoid that Mrs D, cos I dont think you're gonna like what I say.. .. but here goes..
First of all, he sounds like a decent guy, who has a lot of experience in the area. And as he said himself, he is sure that "all parents do the best for their children".. But that doesnt mean that they are "perfect" parents. He is trying to analyse the thing DISPASSIONATELY, and whether he is right (i.e. parents DO unwittingly contribute to the child developing ADD, ADHD etc etc) or he is wrong (i.e. the conditions are entirely congenital), I think he is entitled to his opinion.
Of course parents are going to be upset if they read this as him saying "you contributed to giving your child the condition", but if he was to back off on researching this because he was upsetting people, this would not be very progressive.. My little cousin has been diagnosed with Asperger's, and her mother is a wonderful woman. But I'm sure she would admit herself that she didnt get everything right as a parent. And if there was something that she did wrong (again, unwittingly) that in some small way contributed to her daughter's syndrome, then I think it is worthwhile investigating.
Okay, form an orderly queue with your wet sponges..
However, I do believe that it extremely careless and even dangerous to attribute autism to "refrigerator mum syndrome". Many children with autism have fragile X syndrome which is a chromosomal abnormality, 75% of children with autism also present with an intellectual disability. MRI studies have found that people with autism tend to have a larger brains than their peers. Through my work, I have read alot of Simon Baron Cohen's research, he is a Neuroscientist and is probably the leading autism expert in the Europe, if not the world, he has come out very much against Humphreys this week and has stated that there isn't any evidence to support Humphrey's theory.
I think that it is wrong of a psychologist to make comments like the following, he must have known the impact that this would have on the parents of children on the spectrum.
"If the adults they researched live predominanently in their heads and possess few or no heart qualities, their children will need to find some way of defending themselves against the absence of expressed love and affection and emotional receptivity.
After all, the deepest need of every child is to be unconditionally loved and the absence of it results in children shutting down emotionally themselves because to continue to spontaneously reach out for love would be far too painful".
My main concern now would be for the children who are currently presenting with early signs of autism, I feel that some of their parents may decide not to investigate these concerns incase they are labelled as cold and unloving parents.
Now that Humphreys has started the debate, I hope that he will make himself available to those who care, work and educate children with autism. Starting a debate and running away when you come in for criticism is not very grown up behaviour.0 -
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"If the adults they researched live predominanently in their heads and possess few or no heart qualities ...."
I think I know what he means by that sentence but surely he could be a little more specific and substantially less airy fairy! Maybe it's just me but I can well understand why he got a lot of parents very angry, you would expect someone in his position to be more careful and less casual about causing serious hurt to people or maybe he is the one living too much in his head.
I know nothing about the subject and was certainly no wiser after this morning interview.
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