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Marian Finucane

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭GSF


    humberklog wrote: »
    Coasters?
    There are plenty of coasters in RTE for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭GSF


    John O'Connor - not sure what to make of him. Hes out of touch with the average guy definitely, but his heart is in the right place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    GSF wrote: »
    John O'Connor - not sure what to make of him. Hes out of touch with the average guy definitely, but his heart is in the right place.

    I'm sure he's gone off for a nice expensive lunch to console himself.

    Can't stand how he portrayed himself as a victim in that interview.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭GSF


    SkidMark wrote: »
    I'm sure he's gone off for a nice expensive lunch to console himself.

    Can't stand how he portrayed himself as a victim in that interview.

    I know he lives in a bubble - I liked the way he tried to bond with Marian over how they were both criticised for their huge salaries - but I think O'Connor probably does a lot of good in raising money from private donors. If the cost of doing that is a few lunches, then I suppose its worth it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    GSF wrote: »
    I know he lives in a bubble - I liked the way he tried to bond with Marian over how they were both criticised for their huge salaries - but I think O'Connor probably does a lot of good in raising money from private donors. If the cost of doing that is a few lunches, then I suppose its worth it.


    Spell the guys name correctly for jeez sake man, if you are going to defend him.


    Snout buried to the brow in the Public expense trough.


    No two ways about it...in deep and sucking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Nice subtle comment by Boulton towards the State broadcaster this morning. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,709 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Marian at it again - cheerleader now for Micheal Martin - introduced her show with 'momentum for Micheal Martin' 'preferred choice for Taoiseach' and even through in a I told you so'

    No mention that FF are still third in the polls and majority say the new FF leader will make no difference and a majority will vote fro any party once its not FF

    Incredible how Marian still gets away with this biased commentary


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Fair play to Terry Dolan on the programme now. Its the first time I've heard him on the radio since he had the stroke.

    His honesty and clarity in explaining how he dealt with his life since is refreshing to hear.

    I used to enjoy his slot on Moncrieff over on Newstalk.

    I would be good to have him back again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Ah I knew the voice and distinct delivery of language but just couldn't quite place it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Poochie05


    I always enjoyed his segments on Moncrieff.
    In this interview with Marian however I thought he sounded a bit depressed. I know he is battling difficult circumstances and trying to keep some level of dignity but it sounds as if mentally he still has a very long way to go. I agree it is refreshing to hear someone still in the process of learning to cope with his body no longer doing the day to day things he'd like it to do, rather than someone who has battled all the odds and is now climbing Everest.

    But he still appears to be focused on the barriers to every situation and using them to avoid doing things he'd clearly like to be doing, such as eating in a restaurant. I know everyone deals with situations differently, but I hope at some stage he will get to the point where the wish to be doing some of these things will overcome what he views to be barriers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Who's this lad Terry Dolan people.. Is it worth downloading?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Poly


    Who's this lad Terry Dolan people.. Is it worth downloading?

    He used to do the lexicography and etymology (I had to google it too!) piece on Moncrieff, it was a brilliant segment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    Just to send very best wishes to Terry Dolan after his interview on today's Marian Finucane. I think it was important for his story to be told, and he tells it well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Poochie05


    Who's this lad Terry Dolan people.. Is it worth downloading?

    He's a lecturer of Hiberno-english in UCD (well respected by the sounds of it), hence the very interesting segment on words & their origins on Moncrieff. He had a stroke and by the sounds of it, this has left him completely dependent on carers. He was talking about the difficulties he has doing every day things, like dressing himself, and how he is trying to keep some amount of dignity by not giving in to certain things, such as having a wheel chair to get about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Cole


    Poochie05 wrote: »
    I know he is battling difficult circumstances and trying to keep some level of dignity but it sounds as if mentally he still has a very long way to go. I agree it is refreshing to hear someone still in the process of learning to cope with his body no longer doing the day to day things he'd like it to do, rather than someone who has battled all the odds and is now climbing Everest.
    Well put. I was glued to the interview this morning, he was very honest about how he's coping with everything.

    I admire those who can mentally overcome terrible physical illness/injury, better people than me. I think I'd be feeling like Terry Dolan is, if I was in similar circumstances, perhaps not even coping as well as he is.....so fair play to him. I hope he keeps making progress.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭Greenman


    I enjoyed it, came into the interview about a third through and thought she was interviewing BP Fallon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Fallon actualy popped into my head as well but the more I listened the less likely that seemed esp as there was no mention of boogaloo


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Who's this lad Terry Dolan people.. Is it worth downloading?

    Very surprised you haven't heard of him Jonathan.

    Perhaps there is not much point in downloading the Marian Finnucane interview unless you know who he is.

    He used to have a weekly slot on Moncrieff where he explained the meaning of words. Often topical words relating to to the news of the day.

    And while such a banal topic may sound boring, Dolan had the gift of making every word and its meaning sound interesting.

    He had (still has) a voice for radio.

    I would love to hear him back on his old 15 minute slot on Moncrieff (or elsewhere) again.

    But I also agree with Poochie05's comments above.

    I got the impression from Dolan's interview with Marian that his infliction is eating him up inside, despite his candid acceptance of it.

    But, his reluctance (however stoic) to adapt to aides such as wheelchairs, walking sticks in public came across as a denial of the cross he now bears.

    Meanwhile he praised the fittings in his own home that contribute to make his mobility more comfortable. (Stairlifts etc.) It would seem that he is more conscious of his condition in public than in his own home. This is entirely understandable of course.

    However, on more than one occasion he said that he seldom dines out in public anymore, for fear of what others in the restaurant might mutter should he stumble, or drop a wine glass.

    Two polite words here Terry - Feck them.

    Dine out in style, and never feel the need to apologise to your fellow diners for anything .

    Looking forward to the book, and hope to hear more of you on the radio soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Nodrogllig


    I felt very sorry listening to Terry Dolan. He seemed to have a lot of internalised rage which could only be expressed by having others 'do' for him. " I won't go into a wheel chair. I won't use a hoist". 'So therefore I will have others pick me up, and 'do' for me.' He used the word dignity over and over again. I wonder if he was to change the words loss of dignity for loss of EGO and finally surrendur to the stroke and it's painful invitation to 'change' and make life work for him instead of his need to fight it by refusing to 'give in' so to speak. Giving in and using the gifts of wheel chairs, hoists, will only enhance his life and make it a lot easier for those who are available to support and help him. I guess some stroke victims become more selfish, and of course I don't blame them I just hope that I dont have to travel the same route.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    I listened to this interview twice... And the only way I can describe his tone is one of dispassionate resignation... I think RTE should have left it a bit longer before interviewing, and give the man a bit of time to come to terms with it.. He still seems to be in denial..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rubik.


    I listened to this interview twice... And the only way I can describe his tone is one of dispassionate resignation... I think RTE should have left it a bit longer before interviewing, and give the man a bit of time to come to terms with it.. He still seems to be in denial..

    It's a couple of years now since it happened and his tone was always dispassionate or reserved. The Irish hear foundation gave him the 2010 Stroke Advocate Award... http://www.stroke.ie/iopen24/2010-stroke-award-winners-t-831.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Poly


    I remember him on the LLS show with Gay Byrne many moons ago. He brought to our attention the rise of the "Dort" accent in Dub


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rubik.


    He was on with John Murray a couple of weeks ago, launching the show's campaign against the abuse of the English language by election candidates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Poly


    I'd love to hear him back on Moncreiff, even as a pre-recorded piece


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,559 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Greenman wrote: »
    I enjoyed it, came into the interview about a third through and thought she was interviewing BP Fallon.
    Exact same thing happened to me in the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭mrsdewinter


    Poly wrote: »
    I remember him on the LLS show with Gay Byrne many moons ago. He brought to our attention the rise of the "Dort" accent in Dub

    Really? I'd love to have seen that LLS!

    Poor Terry - he sounded very down. And for all my criticisms of Marian, I thought her interview was excellent. She really pushed him on those situations in which he feels most awkward, and even if her questions about his aversion to both restaurants and using a wheelchair (I'm paraphrasing here: "but you'd be sitting down, just like everybody else, nobody would have to know that you were in a wheelchair...") were precisely the questions everybody at home must have been shouting at the radio.
    Excellent radio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,368 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Charlie bird just said he was filling in for marian "for the next few weeks." Christ sake how does she do this ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Ah not again. I have to hand it her, not many get paid so much for doing so little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,709 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Charlie bird just said he was filling in for marian "for the next few weeks." Christ sake how does she do this ?

    I was so looking forward to Marian post FF anialation......


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Marsipanss


    Infoanon wrote: »
    I was so looking forward to Marian post FF anialation......


    Bird was pretty damn poor in the slot as well. Seems to be hanging around RTE looking for work. Might be time to put him out to grass.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Marsipanss wrote: »
    Bird was pretty damn poor in the slot as well. Seems to be hanging around RTE looking for work. Might be time to put him out to grass.

    This 'Bird' has flown!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Poly


    Marsipanss wrote: »
    Bird was pretty damn poor in the slot as well. Seems to be hanging around RTE looking for work. Might be time to put him out to grass.

    Poor Charlie, I think he's still traumatised after his tour of duty in D.C. no friends, no one knew his name and his printer didn't even work, enough to scar any man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 376 ✭✭edwinkane


    I tuned into MF yesterday for a few minutes, and didn't know who it was who was presenting her program. We turned off after a few minutes as the program seemed not to our taste.

    On Sundays now, we prefer Eamon Dunphy to MF, and find ourselves listening less and less to her program.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    For a journalist, Charlie doesnt know a lot about the economy.. He just asked what a bondholder is.. :confused: I guess he'll be standing up in the studio and saying "I dont know what a tracker mortgage is".. in a minute..

    Very interesting to hear the economic contributor on the show who reckons that Charlie McCreevy was "hated" in Europe for the way that he strutted around... And reckons that our punitive interest rate may be Europe sticking it to us for his arrogance..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    After having finished reading the news, Michael Murphy said "Back to you, Charlie"... which had me wondering (given the revelations about drug use in RTE) if Michael Murhpy was really handing back to Charlie Bird, or was he actually lighting up a little something to ease the newsroom tension..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Cole


    Very interesting to hear the economic contributor on the show who reckons that Charlie McCreevy was "hated" in Europe for the way that he strutted around... And reckons that our punitive interest rate may be Europe sticking it to us for his arrogance..

    It was Gerry Stembridge who made that point and I can't help thinking that there is an element of truth to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Here we are again with Marion taking the proverbial.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Is she on another junket to South Africa.???

    Time to put an end to this charade.


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    Here we are again with Marion taking the proverbial.

    Marian Finucane is as immoral and lacking in credibility as any banking executive in recent years.

    WHY is she allowed to RETAIN such a salary for 4 hours radio a week - with VERY SUBSTANTIAL time off during the year
    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rubik.


    bureau2009 wrote: »

    WHY is she allowed to RETAIN such a salary for 4 hours radio a week - with VERY SUBSTANTIAL time off during the year
    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    Because she is locked into a contract until 2012 and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Well, there is nothing anyone at RTE is prepared to do about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    The culture in RTE is to base the salaries on the 'High earner.

    It is absolute madness for Finucane to get the wedge she is getting for the output she provides.


    Absolute and total madness.

    No one in their right mind could justify it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,559 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Rubik. wrote: »
    Because she is locked into a contract until 2012 and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Well, there is nothing anyone at RTE is prepared to do about it.
    The whole deal with being a contractor is that you can be f*cked out on the street at anytime, that's why you are paid a premium over permanent staff.

    Shame on RTE for not including the relevant clauses in her contract.

    Then again, the current middle-to-upper management at RTE are such spineless, superannuated public-sector gobsh*tes that this basic lack of business acumen doesn't surprise me in the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    The whole deal with being a contractor is that you can be f*cked out on the street at anytime, that's why you are paid a premium over permanent staff.

    I wouldn't mind doing her job for a couple of years and then being effed out on the street. She earns more in a year than some of us would earn in 20 years. I also heard that a lot of the contractors in RTE have set up their own companies so as to avoid paying as much tax as possible.

    I remember RTE trying to justify the obscene salaries paid to their top presenters by saying they'd be poached by another broadcaster if they didn't pay them top whack. Well I don't exactly see any Irish independent TV/ radio stations with wads of cash to throw about these days. RTE should call their bluff and slash their salaries by at least 50%. Let's see how many of them will jump ship or "go to America" as they used to say about Uncle Gaybo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Skyrim


    Not worth a quarter of what she earns. 2 days a week, 500k a year. I'll take that thank you ver much. I wouldn't mind but most females i know say she's great blah blah. No wonder rte are debt ridden paying her obscene wages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    Rubik. wrote: »
    Because she is locked into a contract until 2012 and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Well, there is nothing anyone at RTE is prepared to do about it.

    Agreed.

    And I'm delighted there is a sense of outrage on this thread about Ms Finucane's "salary".

    Why not write to the Director General of RTE expressing your views on this issue?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Just a heads up lads.. Joan Burton will be on with Charlie Bird (in place of Marian) tomorrow morning.. Should be interesting to hear her spin on this week's events..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Aye, PK announced that on his own programme earlier.

    While biting his lip, seething at the thought that Charlie Bird (a mere stand in) got the scoop instead of himself. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    you know for the life of me i dont know why charlie bird calls his show "the marrion finucane show "

    false modesty i suppose.

    :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Moan burton on now. Bet she'll insist she's happy with her lot having calmed down the last couple of days....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭lempsipmax


    Bird has spent 5 minutes trying too get her to say.

    I was dissappointed.

    SO SO SO SO SO SO SO tedious. Not journalism.


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