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Shotgun (extremely) difficult to break open.
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27-06-2010 8:55pm#1Evening,
Hopeing someone here may have come across this issue before and can offer some advice before I go looking for a gunsmith or I foolishly whip out a file.
Have not had the chance to go shooting much the last year or so, since I dont drive I was always getting a lift off a buddy but he kinda lost interest in shooting anything other than some clays locally from time to time so my guns have been sitting in the safe for a few months without much use.
Went shooting some clays a few weeks ago for the first time in months with my O/U Bettinsoli Diamond it was always very stiff to break since I bought it and its only got about 2000 Rounds through it (even though its nearly 3 years old), it was difficult to break open (as per usual)
so I thought nothing of it, thinking it still needed a lot
more rounds through it to free out.
Last week though took it out again to shoot some clays and it was fairly hot out. When I went to break the gun to my horror the gun was extremely difficult to break open.
(Much more so than the previous week) Got me wondering
if heat made the tight tolerances stiff but turned out it
was not the case.
I did nothing to it, it did not get any bangs etc just the gun was almost impossible to open without force.
I only fired 3 shots out of it before deciding to put it away, and ended up shooting a buddies 525 and I cringed at every shot as its his baby and did not want to be fireing someone elses gun.
I tried dry fireing (with snapcap) one barrel at a time,
first the top and break, then the bottom and break, then both and break to see if it had anything to do with pins/springs but there was no change. Also there was no change with the body locking lever it had same spring consistance.
If I goto take off the forestock by opening the lever and ever so slightly angle it off away from the barrels the stiffness issue goes away.
I took the wood off of the fore stock and Put the metal parts only onto the gun. If I stick even a 50 cent piece between the metal of the forestock and where it rests on the barrels the issue goes away and the gun will break open and closed perfectly without any force.
The problems seems to be when the forestock is fully on.
Someone mentioned trying to file the forestock hook ever so slightly where it hooks into the main body of the gun.
Not sure where on this that should or could be filed (slightly) or even if that would be the solution.
Anyone got any ideas ?
If I stick a coin here the gun will break fine:
Without the coin in the default position its fecked
Thought it may have been an issue with the metal where
the gun pivots and blackened the area with a candle to see where was getting wear and what was not but this area
did not seem to be where the issue was.
Wondering if its this hook here that may be causeing the issue. Something maybe about the angle of it and how it intereacts with the partner piece when the forestock is fully on:
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Evening,
Hopeing someone here may have come across this issue before and can offer some advice before I go looking for a gunsmith or I foolishly whip out a file.
Have not had the chance to go shooting much the last year or so, since I dont drive I was always getting a lift off a buddy but he kinda lost interest in shooting anything other than some clays locally from time to time so my guns have been sitting in the safe for a few months without much use.
Went shooting some clays a few weeks ago for the first time in months with my O/U Bettinsoli Diamond it was always very stiff to break since I bought it and its only got about 2000 Rounds through it (even though its nearly 3 years old), it was difficult to break open (as per usual)
so I thought nothing of it, thinking it still needed a lot
more rounds through it to free out.
Last week though took it out again to shoot some clays and it was fairly hot out. When I went to break the gun to my horror the gun was extremely difficult to break open.
(Much more so than the previous week) Got me wondering
if heat made the tight tolerances stiff but turned out it
was not the case.
I did nothing to it, it did not get any bangs etc just the gun was almost impossible to open without force.
I only fired 3 shots out of it before deciding to put it away, and ended up shooting a buddies 525 and I cringed at every shot as its his baby and did not want to be fireing someone elses gun.
I tried dry fireing (with snapcap) one barrel at a time,
first the top and break, then the bottom and break, then both and break to see if it had anything to do with pins/springs but there was no change. Also there was no change with the body locking lever it had same spring consistance.
If I goto take off the forestock by opening the lever and ever so slightly angle it off away from the barrels the stiffness issue goes away.
I took the wood off of the fore stock and Put the metal parts only onto the gun. If I stick even a 50 cent piece between the metal of the forestock and where it rests on the barrels the issue goes away and the gun will break open and closed perfectly without any force.
The problems seems to be when the forestock is fully on.
Someone mentioned trying to file the forestock hook ever so slightly where it hooks into the main body of the gun.
Not sure where on this that should or could be filed (slightly) or even if that would be the solution.
Anyone got any ideas ?
If I stick a coin here the gun will break fine:
Without the coin in the default position its fecked
Thought it may have been an issue with the metal where
the gun pivots and blackened the area with a candle to see where was getting wear and what was not but this area
did not seem to be where the issue was.
Wondering if its this hook here that may be causeing the issue. Something maybe about the angle of it and how it intereacts with the partner piece when the forestock is fully on:
I'd be more interested in knowing what caused it than fixing it.
A smooth broad flat file would remove the burr.
I'd bing it to a gun smith to look it over though just to be on the safe side, or if you do not have the proper equipment vise etc0 -
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May end up going to a gunsmith, Right now though said
I would ask ye guys so I can hopefully gather a bit of info just in case anyone ever had the same issue before.
I'm hopeing get a lift to Midlands Sat to dust off the ol rifle and get a few shots in so may bring the shot gun along with me to see if anyone that knows more about guns than myself can spot anything wrong with it. Not sure if Jim from the range looks at repairs or not or if he just sells. Never been to a specific gunsmith before so will have to go googleing for something to stick in the girlfriends satnav.
~B
Put in carrigobrien Athlone Co Westmeath
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cheers for the replies, I'll hold off with the file for now
I must take the forestock release lever off too, in case that is interfereing in any way, as when I put on the forestock the lever stays in the open position until a gently push it shut.
(instead of snapping shut when I but the wood to the barrell)
And also noticed some scuff marks where the wood from the forestock has rubbed against the barrell.
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