Brazil v Chile, Last 16, 28th June @ 7.30 pm

namloc1980

Brazil -v- Chile

Last 16
Ellis Park
Monday 28th June 2010
7.30 pm

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Brazil have the beating of Chile, I think. Brazil's defence is fairly solid and Fabiano could have a field day with Chile's defence, imo. The best tactic for Chile would be to use their pace to counter any Brazilian attacks, but in saying that, Bastos and Maicon aren't exactly slow themselves.

Should be a good game, either way. Looking forward to it.

Peyton Manning

These two played in September in an absolutely cracking match. Ended 4-2 to Brazil, both teams had a man sent off. Was such an entertaining match. Brazil always have the beating of Chile, and unfortunately I don't see that changing tomorrow Also, if the Brazilian media are to be believed, if Brazil lose tomorrow then Dunga will find himself out of a job.

No Medel or Ponce = Brazil win this easily

flahavaj

Should be a very entertaining match, I've really enjoyed Chile thus far in the competition.

Hopeing for a Brazil win, with a Luis Fabiano hat-trick.:)

Headshot

what are chile's back up defenders like ?

redout

The two Chile defenders missing through suspension (Medel, Ponce) are the top two rated players in the tournament based on their performances so far!

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/castrolindex/ranking.html

RichTea

I'm very excited every time I get the chance to see Chile play. I'd actually have picked them for the upset here if it wasn't for the fact that Ponce and Medel were suspended. Terrible luck for Bielsa.

Brazil to win but hopefully Chile will either go out with a bang or somehow come up with the upset of the tournament.

pickarooney

Should be a comfortable win for Brazil. There's a lot to be said for a qualifying campaign that lets you play everyone in your area twice and I don't think Chile will have any surprises for the old campaigners.

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pickarooney wrote: »

There's a lot to be said for a qualifying campaign that lets you play everyone in your area twice

Imagine that in Europe :eek::eek:

Peyton Manning

Headshot wrote: »

what are chile's back up defenders like ?

Pablo Contreras looks likely to be one of the lads to come in, probably at the right side of the three man defence in place of Medel. He could also go in the centre in place of Ponce and Isla could go to the right side, or Vidal could even go on in the middle, although I imagine Bielsa will want to keep both of them in midfielder, so I imagine Ismael Fuentes will come in. Have never been impressed by him the few times I've seen him, seems somewhat of a liability. If I was to guess Chile's line-up, it would be:

________________________Bravo__________________________

________Contreras________Fuentes__________Jara___________

_______________________Carmona________________________

_____Isla___________________________________Vidal________

______________________Fernandez________________________

__Sanchez______________Valdivia_____________Beausejour___


That's assuming Humberto Suazo is still not ready to start. Millar could also come into midfield if one of Isla or Vidal are put in defence. If Bielsa thinks Robinho will be playing deeper than usual to help out in midfield, then either Isla or Vidal will drop back and make it a 4 man defence.

CorkMan

in the last 3 times they met in the Copa America, Brazil beat them 5-0 on one occasion and something like 5-0 on the other occasion.

Brazil for the big win.

DazMarz

It is very hard to see any other result than a Brazilian win; Brazil are so strong in all areas (particularly in defence, so this will most likely nullify the so-far excellent Chilean attacking options) that it will be a fairly unharried route to the quarter finals.

That said, Chile have proven themselves to be well capable of playing some very good football, and might just throw a shock or two in Brazil's direction.

Will be an entertaining enough game, of which I will probably miss a significant portion...:( Goddamn GAA committments!!!:o

redout

_Bella_

pickarooney wrote: »

Should be a comfortable win for Brazil. There's a lot to be said for a qualifying campaign that lets you play everyone in your area twice and I don't think Chile will have any surprises for the old campaigners.

You could say the same for Chile.. but I see a Brazil win unless Chile put away their chances. Chiles style plays into the Brazilians hands as they love to counter attack.

dannydiamond

RichTea wrote: »

I'd actually have picked them for the upset here if it wasn't for the fact that Ponce and Medel were suspended. Terrible luck for Bielsa.
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Nothing to do with luck.

If his team learned to play football without kicking lumps out of the opposition he'd have all his best players available to him.
It's probably a fault of Biesla that he hasn't instilled some discipline into his team.It could end up being costly.

It's a pity actually, I would have given Chile a chance but they really needed their best XI available.

Vokes

I take it Elano is not fit then. Or possibly Dunga thinks Ramires may provide a better physical defence against Vidal's runs. Either way this will be a fascinating match tactically.

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Cesar

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Maicon - Lucio - Juan - Bastos

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Silva ---- Melo

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---Ramires -- Kaka

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Fabiano

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Robinho

EDIT/

Both Valdivia and Fernandez on the bench for Chile is odd. Would've expected one or the other to be playing behind Suazo.

MR NINE

Vokes wrote: »

I take it Elano is not fit then. Or possibly Dunga thinks Ramires may provide a better physical defence against Vidal's runs. Either way this will be a fascinating match tactically.

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Cesar

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Maicon - Lucio - Juan - Bastos

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Silva ---- Melo

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---Ramires -- Kaka

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Fabiano

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Robinho

Melos out. Alves is starting. Dunno what formation thats gonna produce

MagicMarker

Is this Webb's first game?

Peyton Manning

Vokes wrote: »

Both Valdivia and Fernandez on the bench for Chile is odd. Would've expected one or the other to be playing behind Suazo.

Gonzalez should occupy that role. Strange, I really expected Fernandez to start, but Gonzalez has looked better so far, and Beausejour has been a revelation out left.

redout

MagicMarker wrote: »

Is this Webb's first game?

Third of the tournament I think.

EDIT: Definitely his third.
Spain - Swiss
Slo - Ita

Vokes

MR NINE wrote: »

Melos out. Alves is starting. Dunno what formation thats gonna produce

I guess it could be same formation with Ramirez in Melo's position and Alves in Elano's. Im suprised Josue or Kleberson aren't in for Melo - Dunga must have no confidence in them.

Peyton Manning

dannydiamond wrote: »

Nothing to do with luck.

If his team learned to play football without kicking lumps out of the opposition he'd have all his best players available to him.
It's probably a fault of Biesla that he hasn't instilled some discipline into his team.It could end up being costly.

It's a pity actually, I would have given Chile a chance but they really needed their best XI available.

It's something Bielsa get's them to do on purpose. They'll gladly foul the opposition and pick up a card to prevent a counter attack. It's probably somewhat naive, but with the style of football they play they would get killed on the counter attack if they didn't.

everdead.ie

It's a good sign to have web reffing this one last two games he reefed where crackers.

Peyton Manning

Fuerza Chile!



Ray Houghton seems to think Carmona is replacing Fernandez :rolleyes:

~Marky~

Feck my UPC box says its being upgraded wtf :mad: why now when match is on ahhh..

Peyton Manning

I can never get over how much Marcelo Bielsa reminds me of Bill Belichick.

~Rebel~

Sanchez is obviously going onto big things after this, but the other man I think well worth making a move for is Beausejour. Has been absolutely fantastic in this tournament, looks a fantastic player.

Any info on him on a broader scale for me Archi? Has he just looked so good this tournament or is this the norm for him?

Professey Chin

Fcuking vuvuz :mad:

_Bella_

Pretty even at the mo, Chile started off well but Brazil have come into it now and look to be the more likely to score

Headshot

a tad boring

everdead.ie

If lucio hadn't been so theatrical he would of gotten a peno

wixfjord

What is Houghton ****ing on about that was a bad tackle.

Barr

Chile look worth a punt.

redout

Chile have committed the most fouls in the group stage of the world cup according to ITV - Cant say that comes as a surprise.

~Rebel~

great finish.

Headshot

finally a goal

nipps

GOAL brazil! JUAN

Duff

Fantastic header.

JokerD

He is the Juan and only

Headshot

lol @ fabiano

Duff

Classic Brasil. 2-0.

quarryman

Did the ITV commentator just say they scored with a "British goal"?!

This is why people hate the English press.

_Bella_

Well thats the end of this match

nipps

Brilliant from kaka, 2-0

eagle eye

Now thats a Brazilian goal.

Vokes

Counterattack kings!

Awesome goal

quarryman wrote:

Did the ITV commentator just say they scored with a "British goal"?!

Yeh, really annoying. Dunga's Brazil scored 3 of those kinda goals in the Confederations Cup and presumably a few of them in qualifying too. It's not a new thing for them.

Insect Overlord

Two very good goals.

~Rebel~

brilliant goal, Brazil into the quarters.

Washington Irving

Brazil starting to take off now. Looking like they could get a few more

redout

Chile must be kicking themselves they have them two CBs Medel and Ponce suspended.

Gonna be an awful big ask for them coming from two down.

Crazy thing is Chile aint been bad and Brazil aint been great.

wixfjord

quarryman wrote: »

Did the ITV commentator just say they scored with a "British goal"?!

This is why people hate the English press.

Could have meant Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish either