Alive! magazine and a no junk mail sign.

desertcircus

Step 1: Display a nonsense map and claim it supports your claim.

Step 2: Look on in dismay as people merrily point out the gaping holes in your ideas.

Step 3: Ignore that. You don't have time for silly things like logic.

Seriously, though: if atheists were really congenitally amoral, your list would be about a million times longer.

AnonoBoy

The use of UHT milk vs. fresh milk can also be correlated to crime rates too.

But you won't find people trying to blame one on the other because that would be just incredibly stupid.

Ickle Magoo

Stinicker wrote: »

Let me see,

Joseph Stalin
Benito Mussolini
Pol Pot
Mao Zedong
Jim Jones
Napolean
Kim Jong iL

Such great moral atheists, I guess they got rid of about quarter of a billion people, but being an Atheist that doesn't matter as we are just intelligent animals who means nothing to the world.

You are just itching to godwin, aren't you? You claim atheism is a hotbed of immoral degeneracy and all you can come up with is seven names? Pffft. :pac:

What about all the other millions of atheists that weren't against organised religion purely to further their own megalomaniacal agendas? Or all those killed in the crusades or by religious nutters? Is it only immoral when done by an atheist nutter?

Stinicker wrote: »

I guess if we all took this liberal atheist approach we'd all be atheist and all commit suicide enmass to prevent the polar icecaps from melting.

I'm not even sure where to start with that...do you think the world is flat, perchance?

Scarinae

AnonoBoy wrote: »

The use of UHT milk vs. fresh milk can also be correlated to crime rates too.

But you won't find people trying to blame one on the other because that would be just incredibly stupid.

Milk? You've got it wrong, it's actually all about bread usage (which makes sense, because milk is an ingredient in bread). Check out these statistics:

- More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread eaters.
- Fully HALF of all children who grow up in bread-consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
- In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever and influenza ravaged whole nations.
- More than 90 percent of violent crimes are committed within 24 hours of eating bread.
- Bread is made from a substance called "dough." It has been proven that as little as one pound of dough can be used to suffocate a mouse. The average American eats more bread than that in one month!
- Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low occurrence of cancer, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease and osteoporosis.
- Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread after only two days.
- Bread is often a "gateway" food item, leading the user to "harder" items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter and even cold cuts.
- Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more than 90 percent water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey bread-pudding person.
- Newborn babies can choke on bread.
- Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 400 degrees Fahrenheit! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute.
- Most American bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling.

Coriolanus

Fishie wrote: »

Milk? You've got it wrong, it's actually all about bread usage (which makes sense, because milk is an ingredient in bread). Check out these statistics:

That's nearly as bad as the prevalence of dihydrogen monoxide in todays industrialsed world! :eek::mad:

Radharc na Sleibhte

wild_cat wrote: »

Anyway how do I get this to stop?

Wait in your house until the letter box opens and they feed it through.
Immediately grab the paper, open the door and hit him into a pulp.
Then give his jap eye a paper cut.

PeterIanStaker

panda100 wrote: »

My fave section is 'The Satan in training' bit on the back page.

Ah he's a pussy!

Alive is for members of the Joe Duffy appreciation society. It and the Sindo are two of the biggest wastes of paper in the country.

Mike 1972

Stinicker wrote: »

I don't consider this "Junk Mail"

How is this relevant ?

Stinicker wrote: »

Benito Mussolini.

FAIL !

Stinicker

Mike 1972 wrote: »

How is this relevant ?

It is very relevant to me.

Coriolanus

Stinicker wrote: »

It is very relevant to me.

So basically, provided you don't agree with the occupants definition of what is and is not junk mail, you feel perfectly entitled to put things in their mailbox?

Mike 1972

Stinicker wrote: »

It is very relevant to me.

Do you live in the same house as the OP

Unless you share a letterbox it is not relevant in the slightest

Killer Pigeon

Mike 1972 wrote: »

FAIL !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini#Religious_beliefs

To be fair he was an atheist and he did murder a lot of Ethiopians but his ideology caused him to kill those people not his non-belief in God.

Killer Pigeon

Stinicker wrote: »

It is very relevant to me.

... and it is irrelevant to others. The thing is these sort of magazines shouldn't be sent out to people if they don't want them. You should register on a subscription service to receive them if they are relevant to you.

Mike 1972

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

To be fair he was an atheist .

Hardly

More of a hypocrite really

He denounced socialists who were tolerant of religion, or who had their children baptized. ..............Mussolini would try to win popular support by appeasing the Catholic majority in Italy. In 1924, Mussolini saw that three of his children were given communion. In 1925, he had a priest perform a religious marriage ceremony for himself and his wife Rachele, whom he had married in a civil ceremony 10 years earlier.[100] In 1929, he signed a concordat and treaty with the Roman Catholic Church......He wanted to persuade Catholics that "[f]ascism was Catholic and he himself a believer who spent some of each day in prayer

Killer Pigeon

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Hardly

More of a hypocrite really

Well he was an atheist, but he probably didn't say it in public as much because of the fact that the overwhelming majority of Italians were Roman Catholic and he would have lost public support if had utterly denounced religion.

Ickle Magoo

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Hardly

More of a hypocrite really

+1

He had the full RC funeral works as well. Like most megalomaniacs, he wasn't driven by a lack of belief in god/s, he was driven by a thirst for power - which meant doing everything he could to destroy his opposition in influential establishments ie the church.

Mat the trasher

Got that rag through my door the other day also, really pissed off that they stuff through your letter box. Anyway took a look at it and as it turns out I know the editor and I can tell you he's a nut. Will not listen to any contary arguments, I mean will not even discuss your point of view. I spent alot of time in the Muslim world and they are more tolerant than this guy.

Prof.Badass

panda100 wrote: »

How can you not like Alive?Its bleedin priceless! My fave section is 'The Satan in training' bit on the back page. Thats quality.

I wouldn't mind alive if it didn't have Dermot Ahern as an avid reader (that's the only rational explaination i can think of for all the backward stuff he's done).

Mena

What's the problem with getting Alive! in the mail? Since it started down here we've not had to purchase bog roll once.

Win.

Del2005

wild_cat wrote: »

I have a no junk mail sign up on my front door. The only people who seem unable to read it are the people that deliver the Alive Catholic news paper door to door.

I rang them last month requesting that they refrain from putting it through the door in future. The lady refused to tell me who was delivering them to my area but said it wasn't one of their own group of delivery people, as they adhere to no junk mail signs.

Came home today and there was another one stuck in the door.

I do not agree with any of the crap they write and feel I shouldn't have this kind of stuff thwarted at me in my own home.


I'd enjoy it like a copy of Viz if I didn't know they were actually being serious.

Anyway how do I get this to stop?

Call around to all your neighbours and get their copies. Dump them down the road and call the litter warden. How can they prove that they where delivered and then they'll get a nice little bill off the council.

Mine just goes straight into the recycling bin, only every got to the 2nd line on the title page where it says it's "Catholic ...."

Prof.Badass

Mat the trasher wrote: »

Got that rag through my door the other day also, really pissed off that they stuff through your letter box. Anyway took a look at it and as it turns out I know the editor and I can tell you he's a nut. Will not listen to any contary arguments, I mean will not even discuss your point of view. I spent alot of time in the Muslim world and they are more tolerant than this guy.

Actually, one thing i noticed about alive is that it can be really right wing. Obviously we all knew they''d be authoritarian, but there seems to be an anti-socialist, pro-capitalist message, which surprised me.
A lot more like something you'd expect from an american christian fundamentalist publication rather than an irish catholic one.
I always though Irish catholocism was more left-leaning and love-your-neighboury. I definitely haven't heard of the pope preaching any right-wing messages.

They also seem to hate gender equality for some reason .

Indubitable

Stinicker wrote: »

Have you seen the Swedish reported crime rates recently?
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html

It doesn't look too rosy compared to countries that value our Christian ideals and have at least Moral and Ethical values.

Have you seen their hot birds?

Abrasax

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

OMG!!!! What they did was based on ideology not on their belief in God.

Oh yeah, you forgot to mention Adolf Hitler, oops, he was Roman Catholic.

Oh yeah, the Spanish Inquisition, forgot about them and the burning of hundreds and thousands of people because of the beliefs and accusations of 'witchcraft'.

One more thing, you're not addressing the statistics I gave you above ^^^

Edit: Forgot to mention the crusades.

Not to forget the 'Christian' Bush and, now Catholic, Tony Blair and how they both believed God wanted them to slaughter millions of innocents for oil.

Carl Sagan

To be honest, a good sit down with Alive is better than watching some of the best comedies on tv.

admiralofthefleet

save up all the pizza delivery leaflets and other types of junk you can get your hands on and send it back to the catholic scum

Scarinae

Mena wrote: »

What's the problem with getting Alive! in the mail? Since it started down here we've not had to purchase bog roll once.

Win.

That sounds chafey

Del2005

Prof.Badass wrote: »

I definitely haven't heard of the pope preaching any right-wing messages.

He got that out of his system in his Youth days.

clikityclak

Carl Sagan wrote: »

To be honest, a good sit down with Alive is better than watching some of the best comedies on tv.

^^^^^^
This is true.

Not a problem now I'm home from college but used to get that dung through the letter box however often it comes out. Really strange view of the world, but it gave me a chuckle over breakfast or whatever.

Also the argument that atheism=lack of morals??? I'll make my own thank you, and not because of the fear of 'judgement' by an imaginery friend.

squod

A lot of hatred of Catholics being expressed here. How long would this thread last if it was about Gibbs or Essence being pushed through your letterbox. Bigots TBH.

bleg

squod wrote: »

A lot of hatred of Catholics being expressed here. How long would this thread last if it was about Gibbs or Essence being pushed through your letterbox. Bigots TBH.

Calling people bigots because of a thread that hasn't gone on for pages because it hasn't been created about a problem that doesn't exist.

What the ****?

Nevyn

squod wrote: »

A lot of hatred of Catholics being expressed here. How long would this thread last if it was about Gibbs or Essence being pushed through your letterbox. Bigots TBH.

I think it is more hatred of bigots, idiots and onetruewayism who think they have the right to push their beliefs on us.

I don't hate catholics, I have respect for people of faith but I have no time for that rag of a publication, have you read it?

http://www.alive.ie/aboutus.php

If anyone wants to try stop it being delivered try contacting them.

Alive!,
St Mary's Priory,
Tallaght Village,
Dublin 24,
Ireland

Tel: 01-4048187
Fax: 01-4596784

Email: editor@alive.ie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alive!_%28newspaper%29

Alive! is a free monthly publication in the style of a newspaper which has been produced, since its first edition in 1996, by Alive Group, an organization with an address at the Dominican Order St Mary's Priory, Tallaght in Dublin, Republic of Ireland. The current editor is a Catholic priest, Fr Brian McKevitt, who refers to the publication as a 'newszine'. While it claims a circulation of over 300,000 copies, its actual readership is difficult to establish since a substantial portion of its circulation is delivered door-to-door, with most of the remainder being available through Ireland's network of Catholic churches (who do not provide estimates of take-up).[1] It is printed by Datascope, an independent publishing company in Enniscorthy and contains an appeal in each issue for donations totalling EUR160,000 annually to remain in circulation.[2]

Since September 2008, the front page has contained a disclaimer text "The content of the newspaper Alive! and the views expressed in it are those of the editor and contributors, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Irish Dominican Province".

Alive! upholds a right-wing orthodox Catholic position on a number of issues which it believes are of prime importance to Catholics. These include abortion, euthanasia, marriage, teenage sex, homosexuality, feminism, parenting, children's education, "moral decline", the European Union, the idea that Global warming is a hoax and the broad environmental movement is "anti-Catholic" and, ultimately, the necessity for the primacy of Catholic Christianity over all other belief systems.[3] Each edition of the newszine will typically contain at least four or five articles on topics drawn from this list, and the majority of its articles are written anonymously.

The publication strongly opposed the Nice Treaty and more recently, fiercely protested against the Lisbon Treaty, a position which drew criticism from Irish politicians such as Senator Paschal Donohoe as its position could be erroneously interpreted by many Catholics as representing the official views of the Catholic hierarchy. TD Thomas Byrne, attacked the publication claiming it "bombarded" church goers with its "anti-EU" views.[4] While Senator Ivana Bacik went further and described the publication as being the "equivalent of the paramilitary wing of the Catholic Church"[5] (a reference to the IRA being called the paramilitary wing of Sinn Fein). Following Donohue's comments, Cardinal Seán Brady asked bishops to monitor unofficial literature which was distributed through Catholic churches.

AnonoBoy

AnonoBoy wrote: »

As of today we call him The Chocolate Monster around these parts.

Linky

There's even a book already!

http://img1.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/h1/h8797.jpg

Sulmac

Thaedydal wrote: »

I think it is more hatred of bigots, idiots and onetruewayism who think they have the right to push their beliefs on us.

I don't hate catholics, I have respect for people of faith but I have no time for that rag of a publication, have you read it?

http://www.alive.ie/aboutus.php

The front page story is one of the funniest (albeit one of the most nonsensical) things I've ever read.

The "sex market" and "marriage market". :pac:

wild_cat

Thaedydal wrote: »

I think it is more hatred of bigots, idiots and onetruewayism who think they have the right to push their beliefs on us.

I don't hate catholics, I have respect for people of faith but I have no time for that rag of a publication, have you read it?

http://www.alive.ie/aboutus.php

If anyone wants to try stop it being delivered try contacting them.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alive!_%28newspaper%29

I rang them last month.

Mike 1972

Quite frankly a lot of Catholics I know wouldnt welcome this crap being pushed through their letterbox.

Is there any way of getting the home addresses of their distributors in order to send them some unsolicited Gay porn/Communist newspapers/Advertisements for Dignitas/Free Presbyterian leaflets/Headshop price lists..........

squod wrote: »

How long would this thread last if it was about Gibbs or Essence

Wha ?

squod wrote: »

A lot of hatred of Catholics being expressed here.

Hatred of junk mail = Hatred of Catholics ???

FAIL !

rainbow kirby

Huge rainbow flag hanging in the window should do the job :pac:

squod

squod wrote: »

A lot of hatred of Catholics being expressed here. How long would this thread last if it was about Gibbs or Essence being pushed through your letterbox. Bigots TBH.

Get over the persecution complex will ye. We don't like junk mail full stop.

(and I'd be surprised to hear that Alive actually represents catholics, I really would)

Mike 1972

bluewolf wrote: »

(and I'd be surprised to hear that Alive actually represents catholics, I really would)

any suggestion that it did would be far closer to anti-catholic bigotry (TM) in fairness

Kiwi_knock

I would consider myself a Catholic but would agree with nothing written in Alive, it does not represent my views towards religion. It actively promotes the view that Catholicism is under attack and that to defend itself it should attack any one that speaks out against it. It shames me that anyone could support any of the views contained within it.

prinz

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Quite frankly a lot of Catholics I know wouldnt welcome this crap being pushed through their letterbox.

One of the first bits of sense on this thread. Alive! is not an official publication and does not represent the views of RCC in Ireland.

Thaedydal wrote: »

I think it is more hatred of bigots, idiots and onetruewayism who think they have the right to push their beliefs on us.

There's a lot of that going around these days, it used to be religion, not any more.

Millicent

Serious suggestion here but could you not report the editor to the diocese?

squod

bleg wrote: »

Calling people bigots because of a thread that hasn't gone on for pages because it hasn't been created about a problem that doesn't exist.

What the ****?

FYI

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

save up all the pizza delivery leaflets and other types of junk you can get your hands on and send it back to the catholic scum

panda100 wrote: »

Exactly, you just got to train your dog to hate facist idiots.

Abrasax wrote: »

Not to forget the 'Christian' Bush and, now Catholic, Tony Blair and how they both believed God wanted them to slaughter millions of innocents for oil.

Jebus, Bush isn't a Christian like.

AnonoBoy

squod wrote: »

Jebus, Bush isn't a Christian like.

He's not Catholic - I'm pretty sure he is a Methodist Christian though, doesn't he?

Coriolanus

AnonoBoy wrote: »

He's not Catholic - I'm pretty sure he is a Methodist Christian though, doesn't he?

No true Christian would do the things that he did though, silly.

Daemos

Was at a cemetary mass last week and someone was outside the gate handiong them out at the end. Wonder where it is

AnonoBoy

Nevore wrote: »

No true Christian would do the things that he did though, silly.

Sure he can just ask for forgiveness on his deathbed can't he?




Sorted. :cool:

thetonynator

wild_cat wrote: »

I have a no junk mail sign up on my front door. The only people who seem unable to read it are the people that deliver the Alive Catholic news paper door to door.

I rang them last month requesting that they refrain from putting it through the door in future. The lady refused to tell me who was delivering them to my area but said it wasn't one of their own group of delivery people, as they adhere to no junk mail signs.

Came home today and there was another one stuck in the door.

I do not agree with any of the crap they write and feel I shouldn't have this kind of stuff thwarted at me in my own home.


I'd enjoy it like a copy of Viz if I didn't know they were actually being serious.

Anyway how do I get this to stop?

I didnt even know that was a free paper!!

Anyway the solution is, move to a rural area!!! no free newspapers and junk mail here!!! ( EXCEPT WHAT THE POSTMAN BRINGS - BILLS AND SOME SHÍTE LIKE THAT!!! oops left caps lock on and not arsed to retype . .

squod

AnonoBoy wrote: »

He's not Catholic - I'm pretty sure he is a Methodist Christian though, doesn't he?

Jebus, unless the Methodist Christian's have taken up the kind of thing he's into then......... eh, no.

davrho

Just put it in the recycle bin. Is it that big of a deal.

Indubitable

davrho wrote: »

Just put it in the recycle bin. Is it that big of a deal.

Look at all the wasted paper and effort to go to the recycling bin and all the trees being cut down.