Bringing your own alcohol to pubs!

reprazant

NothingMan wrote: »

Clubs especially need to adjust their business plan. €6 for a pint and €9 for a vodka and coke is way more criminal and damaging than the odd few saving some money on a night out.

So, you go to a club and pay that much for the drink and then moan that the owners charge it?

If you don't want to pay it, don't bloody go.

Its not rocket science. If people stop going, then they will lower their prices.

RobbieTheRobber

harr wrote: »

what ever happened to the free dash of coke or 7-up from the mixer pump machine dont see them anymore,as i said before my friends only bring drink if it is going to be along day out like weddings or into a club we would rarely bring it into a pub.if we were only going down for a few drinks whats the point.what we do most times is buy a large bottle of 7-up between the group it works out a lot cheaper

I got the dash in a bar recently for the two drinks it cost more than buying a bottle of the same drink in the same bar would have cost. I was

Blitzkrieger

reprazant wrote: »

If you can't afford to go out, then don't go out.

I think I'd agree - I don't get the way everybody is focusing on alcohol. I like my drink, but if I want to spend less, I'll drink less.

I suppose my thinking is influenced by the amount of time I spend in my local. There's a sense of community and the bar's owner does his best to look after us, both inside the pub and with golf outings or a tag rugby team for people to socialise outside the pub. It does create a bit of loyalty. I can see how people would feel less inclined to support the owners of super-pubs.

If I've a budget of X for drink and Y for a naggin, I'd rather spend X & Y in the pub and drink slower. If you want to drink cheaply, have a house party or something. Get the **** out of the pub so I can have a seat and a clear view of the telly!

the_barfly1 wrote: »

Most pubs only employ male door security, they can't legally search a woman, so the ladies usually can just carry what they like within their handbags and just have to be discreet about it.

I saw plenty of bouncers searching bags in town last Friday night. It's not many of them have the drink hidden on their person - have you seen how little young 'wans wear these days? They'd have nowhere to hide it.

petes

harr wrote: »

what ever happened to the free dash of coke or 7-up from the mixer pump machine dont see them anymore,a

They are still about but you'll pay for them depending where you are.

fonecrusher1

Last time i was in a pub in dublin i went up to get 3 pints of heineken. Gave the bar man a 20 euro note & got just over 4 euros in change. That was late last year, well into the recession.

I said to the barman, no recession here then? He pretended not to hear me.

Fcuking shockin.

BeeJazizWafuls

I've never brought my own drink to pubs or clubs, I have a friend who brought 4 WKD's to the local nightclub, why she bothered I'll never know, 3 euro drinks all the time!

But anyway, I'd be more likely to pre-drink with my friends, I always end up spending the same amount of money though! I think I have a problem:(

fakearms123

I tried this before, bringing my drink into the pub to save money but I have a strict routine when on a night out that I must stick to otherwise my stomach will get confused and collapse inwards on itself, I start the night out with a guinness (can in this case), followed by 3 heineken (bottles), then an 1860 Persian spice rum (chalice), then black bottle scotch whiskey (from a hobo's boot), expensive Italian rosé wine (gargled from the anal cavity of a high priest) and finally an actimel (a 'probiotic' yoghurt-type drink) so as you can tell this was quite a challenge when trying to fit it in a sports bag at the pub!

Dravokivich

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

I said to the barman, no recession here then? He pretended not to hear me.

Fcuking shockin.

I'm sure you were the first person to say that to him...

artanevilla

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

FFS hold on a second now, all im hearing is how bad the pubs are doing over & over again. Do something about it.
The solution obviously isn't leaving prices unadjusted or ever so slightly lowering prices by 4 or 5 cent.

The owner of my local super-pub is a very wealthy guy. Fair play to him for having the drive to be a success but if he was to complain to me about business being down i would tell him to get fcuked.

I didn't start the thread, I didn't come here to complain, I'm just giving the facts and answers to the issues being raised. I'm trying to give the other side to the the arguement.

NothingMan wrote: »

I don't drink Guinness, how much is a Heineken? How much is a vodka & coke? In my mates local in Carlow a Heinekn is €3.90 and a vodka is €4. The bar has bottles of coke/7up/orange juice etc... just sitting there to take as you need for your short. Can't see that ever happening in Dublin, and I know those publicans do alright for themselves.

4.50 for Heinekens. Vodka on it's own is 3.65, the splits of Coke/7up/Orange are 2.60. So the price of a Vodka and Coke would be 4.30 (You get two serving of Coke from the split) We have dashes of white/red lemonade, blackcurrant, orange cordial, lime cordial, pep, free of charge.

422nd

Depending on what I can and can't afford, I just go out for the night with a budgeted amount of money. That way, when I run out of what i intended to spend, I won't talk myself into buying anymore then i can afford.

Only bring what you can spare.

Simples.;)

Azureus

I drink spirits mixed with juice/7up.

If I bring my naggin of vodka to the bar, and still spend around €3 per mixer, how would it be better for your business if I stayed home like loads of people are suggesting?

(liability argument aside, there is only so drunk one naggin would get you and for me its not very!)

artanevilla

Azureus wrote: »

I drink spirits mixed with juice/7up.

If I bring my naggin of vodka to the bar, and still spend around €3 per mixer, how would it be better for your business if I stayed home like loads of people are suggesting?

(liability argument aside, there is only so drunk one naggin would get you and for me its not very!)

My main arguement is that I may end up in prison if you injure yourself in a drunken state. At least if I'm selling you the alcohol I can controll the level of intake. (didn't see the bit in brackets)

qwertplaywert

Strange hearing people say they pay for drink in the pubs ,and sneak drink into the nightclubs, other way around in Dundalk, the drink is cheaper in the nightclubs[3 quid majority of the time] so people sneak drink into the pubs!

Pyr0

artanevilla wrote: »

My main arguement is that I may end up in prison if you injure yourself in a drunken. At least if I'm selling you the alcohol I can controll the level of intake.

I can't speak for all barmen when I say this but from what I've seen a lot of them will serve anyone willing to pay, regardless to how drunk the person happens to be.

stimpson

To be honest, I'm sick of listening to hearing how bad the publicans have it. Be it from Dara O'Briain pimping for the VA on the radio or on here. The pub industry has NOT been in a recession for 10 years. The owner of my local has a V12 Brabus S600 Merc. Maybe he's feeling the pinch because he hasn't changed it in a couple of years and really wanted that Veyron. Pity about him.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, my missus is out of a job, so we're surviving on a single salary. We don't get out any more because we simply can't afford it. If you feel the need to bring a naggin with you to the pub, more power to you.

artanevilla

Pyr0 wrote: »

I can't speak for all barmen when I say this but from what I've seen a lot of them will serve anyone willing to pay, regardless to how drunk the person happens to be.

I've rarely had to say no more to a customer, but I can keep an eye on who I know is drunk.

artanevilla

stimpson wrote: »

To be honest, I'm sick of listening to hearing how bad the publicans have it. Be it from Dara O'Briain pimping for the VA on the radio or on here. The pub industry has NOT been in a recession for 10 years. The owner of my local has a V12 Brabus S600 Merc. Maybe he's feeling the pinch because he hasn't changed it in a couple of years and really wanted that Veyron. Pity about him.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, my missus is out of a job, so we're surviving on a single salary. We don't get out any more because we simply can't afford it. If you feel the need to bring a naggin with you to the pub, more power to you.

How many pubs have closed down in the last ten years? And the owner of your local must have some pub if he can afford that, I assure you many pubs are struggling for their survival.

Knifey Spoony

I couldn't give care less what other people do on a night out, but ffs if you are gonna be a cheap bastard don't try and pass off your empty bottles to the table next to you. Was having a few drinks in a pub in Cork City one night and there was group next to us who were enjoying a few naggins and the remains of other people's drinks. Eventually they left, but were after throwing their left over bottles under our table which a bouncher then spotted and assumed was ours and was in the process of kicking us out, before another bouncher saw what happened and came to our rescue.

fonecrusher1

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'm sure you were the first person to say that to him...

Well i wouldn't have been the last thats for sure...

artanevilla

I'll just throw this in here, then I'm done, arguement done to death, agree to disagree etc.

"We estimate that on average one pub a day is closing down and that 1,500 pubs have closed in the last five years. On this basis we anticipate that another 1,500 pubs will close over the next three years with the consequent loss of another 10,000 jobs in the industry."

Dravokivich

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Well i wouldn't have been the last thats for sure...

Which is why he'd be sick of hearing people like you saying that crap.

Demonon

artanevilla wrote: »

How many pubs have closed down in the last ten years? And the owner of your local must have some pub if he can afford that, I assure you many pubs are struggling for their survival.

Those pubs closing down are not closing down because of people sneaking drink in. People who do this don't even sneak drink into pubs, it's usually only nightclubs. The types of pubs closing down are small country pubs, or pubs in small towns/villages. The nightclubs charging €10 for a vodka/red bull aren't going anywhere.

Azureus

artanevilla wrote: »

I've rarely had to say no more to a customer, but I can keep an eye on who I know is drunk.

I used to work behind the bar in a well-known Dublin nightclub, I agree it can be handy to know whose had those three-too-many, but I think it is a bit of a cop-out for this general debate considering if theyre a problem you can get the doormen to sort it out/kick em out or whatever. Chances are theyll already be causing trouble if you choose to stop serving them anyway.

The main problem publicans have with this is profit margins, and who can blame em-if I ran a pub Id be pished off at it eating into my money! I dont always bring a cheeky hipflask/naggin of vodka with me, but I do it on occasion and dont feel one bit bad about it! I often pay entry into nightclubs and I still pay for my mixers and the odd drink/shot/whatever, as do pretty much everybody I know who does this, so its not like we waltz into pubs and sit there for free for the night. We just waltz in there and sit for a lot cheaper :P

reprazant

stimpson wrote: »

To be honest, I'm sick of listening to hearing how bad the publicans have it. Be it from Dara O'Briain pimping for the VA on the radio or on here. The pub industry has NOT been in a recession for 10 years. The owner of my local has a V12 Brabus S600 Merc. Maybe he's feeling the pinch because he hasn't changed it in a couple of years and really wanted that Veyron. Pity about him.

My architect neighbour is currently buying a holiday home in the south of France.

Obviously there is no recession going on in relation to construction of homes/buildings. I base this purely on this one person being well off.

harr

Knifey Spoony wrote: »

I couldn't give care less what other people do on a night out, but ffs if you are gonna be a cheap bastard don't try and pass off your empty bottles to the table next to you. Was having a few drinks in a pub in Cork City one night and there was group next to us who were enjoying a few naggins and the remains of other people's drinks. Eventually they left, but were after throwing their left over bottles under our table which a bouncher then spotted and assumed was ours and was in the process of kicking us out, before another bouncher saw what happened and came to our rescue.

well thats not on,most people dont leave the vodka bottles behind as for drinking the remains of someones drink thats nasty:eek:

stimpson

artanevilla wrote: »

How many pubs have closed down in the last ten years? And the owner of your local must have some pub if he can afford that, I assure you many pubs are struggling for their survival.

Many of the pubs closing down before the recession were country pubs that didn't have a viable population to serve any more. Dublin pubs were making money hand over fist during the boom. I could point to several on the Northside that had big extensions built before 2008.

When I see my local publican driving around in a 10 year old Corolla I'll start to have a little sympathy.

fonecrusher1

Dravokivich wrote: »

Which is why he'd be sick of hearing people like you saying that crap.

Think i care?

yungwan

artanevilla wrote: »

I'll just throw this in here, then I'm done, arguement done to death, agree to disagree etc.

"We estimate that on average one pub a day is closing down and that 1,500 pubs have closed in the last five years. On this basis we anticipate that another 1,500 pubs will close over the next three years with the consequent loss of another 10,000 jobs in the industry."

Yes I see what youre saying.

However a certain percentage of every industry closes down every year for different reasons: bad management, poor marketing, bad reputation etc.

It is not fair to blame people trying to have a cheaper night out as the reason for these failed public houses.

We all understand that times are difficult for business today but consumers still want to enjoy their nights out whilst also saving some money. As other posts have said nobody goes out and doesnt put their hand into their pocket all night. We simply decide to give the publican €30 on a night out rather than €80 for example.

If a bar had drinks promotions on, better value for money, it would definately cut down on the hidden naggin phenomenum, coz it wouldnt be worth our while. (I have only done this three times but will again)

Consumers have just become wiser to saving money, and I think hats off to them! We have been screwed for too long.

Now give me a top up from that hip flask!!

stimpson

reprazant wrote: »

My architect neighbour is currently buying a holiday home in the south of France.

Obviously there is no recession going on in relation to construction of homes/buildings. I base this purely on this one person being well off.

My point is that many publicans were doing very, very well before the recession.

rebel10

Can i ask, if a person brings their own drink into a pub, gets really drunk, walks out the front door of the pub, onto a main road, gets hit by a car, dies, is the pub liable for letting him/her get that bad?