Court orders demolition of family home.

General Zod

Stinicker wrote: »

This guy clearly pumped alot of money into the economy in the building of this house in vat and other charges.

I'd be willing to wager there was alot of ex-vat work done in the building of this house.

ricman

The court could order the esb,water supply turned off first be4 the demolition ,if the wish.This house is an insult to the planning regulations,The court had to respond as it did.

skywalker_208

ricman wrote: »

The court could order the esb,water supply

They likely have their own water supply so they cant

Min

It would be terrible waste to now knock the house, we all know it was some power hungry people who refused planning permission, they have the power and they like to exercise it.

They shouldn't have built it but it would be a bigger crime from a moral sense to knock it down.

prinz

Min wrote: »

They shouldn't have built it but it would be a bigger crime from a moral sense to knock it down.

On what moral basis?

Dohnny Jepp

Isnt the general reason for planning permission to be turned down in the country because it ruins the scenary etc. So if this the case leaving it up isnt an option.

Mike 1972

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

turned down in the country because it ruins the scenary etc..

This is just one reason.

Water consumption/pollution, traffic, road safety, likely suceptaility to flooding, impact on any future development (e.g. road widening) are some of the others

Butch Cassidy

reprazant wrote: »

The family in Loughlinstown were evicted because they owed over €10,000 in rent arrears to the council.

I have no sympathy for them either. Their rent was €100 a week & there was 4 adults living in the house.

How the hell do you work up that amount in arrears?

Ann Moore came home from a 12-work shift to find her daughters sitting in the street in their pyjamas. Evicted. You see nothing wrong with that?

She had been paying the council €150 a week with the extra €50 towards the arrears. She has since offered a lump sum of a few grand which the council of course rejected.

Seamonster wrote: »

This is what JP Mansfield has been doing for years and he seems to get away with it, that's what amazes me. He basically builds colleges, apartments, conference centers without planning permission, gets a slap on the wrist, gives the government millions in backhanders and suddenly he has permission....OK, your man built his house without permission and it deserves to be knocked down, even just to send a message out to other people not to try the same, but when politicians mates like Mansfield do it and get away with it, it shows you how corrupt our country is!

http://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/Naas-hotel-plan-granted-planning.5482413.jp

http://www.thepropertypin.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25586&start=0

Thank you! Finally someone sees the injustice/imbalance in the law. All citizens held equal before the law? I don't think so.....

starbelgrade

Seamonster wrote: »

This is what JP Mansfield has been doing for years and he seems to get away with it, that's what amazes me. He basically builds colleges, apartments, conference centers without planning permission, gets a slap on the wrist, gives the government millions in backhanders and suddenly he has permission....OK, your man built his house without permission and it deserves to be knocked down, even just to send a message out to other people not to try the same, but when politicians mates like Mansfield do it and get away with it, it shows you how corrupt our country is!

http://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/Naas-hotel-plan-granted-planning.5482413.jp

http://www.thepropertypin.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25586&start=0

Neither of those links show anything to suggest what you are saying has any truth in it. The first link is a newspaper article about a development for which he has been granted planning & the second is posts on a forum about what appears to be rent arrears on a Golf Club. Neither are relevant in any way to this case, or in any way back up what you are saying.

Pdfile

super_furry wrote: »

Why did he build it when he was refused permission? Staggering arrogance.

most houses on estates built in the last 5 years are illigal thanks to current regulations... but you'll never know this fact unless you bought one of these homes and its in-queue to be knocked down. :pac:

Mike 1972

Pdfile wrote: »

but you'll never know this fact unless you bought one of these homes and its in-queue to be knocked down. :pac:

Or if the conveyancing solicitor you employed was anyways competent ?

Run_to_da_hills

Looks like these are not the only people under court order.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293524/The-house-meant-garage--bedrooms-kitchen-diner.html

mikerowsopht

ah sure, $crew the government n all that. If I spent hundreds of thousands on land or own my own land then I will build an airport on it if I want

If I were that couple I would build myself a motte around me land, let's see the diggers get past me river

169

The house in Meath was prob built with cash as no Architect/Engineer would sign off on the mortage drawdown

ejmaztec

mikerowsopht wrote: »

ah sure, $crew the government n all that. If I spent hundreds of thousands on land or own my own land then I will build an airport on it if I want

If I were that couple I would build myself a motte around me land, let's see the diggers get past me river

Carry on, you should have absolutely no trouble at all with any of that.

GarH

mikerowsopht wrote: »

ah sure, $crew the government n all that. If I spent hundreds of thousands on land or own my own land then I will build an airport on it if I want

If I were that couple I would build myself a motte around me land, let's see the diggers get past me river

Ah, but you would need planning permission for your moat

mikerowsopht

mikerowsopht wrote: »

If I were that couple I would build myself a motte around me land, let's see the diggers get past me river

How'd you build a hill *around* your land?
Or do you mean a moat?

mikemac

mikerowsopht wrote: »

ah sure, $crew the government n all that. If I spent hundreds of thousands on land or own my own land then I will build an airport on it if I want
r

Cool, if I was your neighbour I could build a meat rendering plant, I think there is money to be made in that sector.
It's planned to build a new plant in Tipperary but people are objecting

You wouldn't complain though, of course you wouldn't

sylvesterallein

"....If I spent hundreds of thousands on land or own my own land then I will build an airport on it if I want"

In fact, someone has built an airport near us in Wicklow without planning permission - and are persisting with it....should be interesting to see what happens here in the light of the Meath case....

AckwelFoley

sylvesterallein wrote: »

"....If I spent hundreds of thousands on land or own my own land then I will build an airport on it if I want"

In fact, someone has built an airport near us in Wicklow without planning permission - and are persisting with it....should be interesting to see what happens here in the light of the Meath case....

Its not interesting at all its rather simple to tell you what will happen.

After about 3 - 5 years of legal battles the "airport" will be shut, and any buildings demolished and perhaps legal actions against the owner for costs.

You cant ignore the laws of the land and regulations in such a manner.. you can challenge them, thats the right of every citizen of this free state.. but you cant be a bollox either

mickdw

snyper wrote: »

Its not interesting at all its rather simple to tell you what will happen.

After about 3 - 5 years of legal battles the "airport" will be shut, and any buildings demolished and perhaps legal actions against the owner for costs.

You cant ignore the laws of the land and regulations in such a manner.. you can challenge them, thats the right of every citizen of this free state.. but you cant be a bollox either

Who is to say they wont be allowed to retain the airport?

AckwelFoley

mickdw wrote: »

Who is to say they wont be allowed to retain the airport?

In the event they followed normal procedure its unlikely they would get it, there is alot of things to get done to get through planning, particularly for something like this.. y going ahead and building it and ignoring the planning authority its not going to endear themselves for planning retention

ejmaztec

They'd be in for a rough landing if it gets shot down in flames by An Bord Pleanála, after spending money and years on it.

Necro

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