Plain ol' Spain vs Paraguay, Saturday 3rd July, 7:30pm (RTE & BBC HD)

Lu Tze

_Bella_ wrote: »

none of the Spanish players sung a note

I don't think there are any lyrics. They might have been huuming though, hard to tell

_Bella_

A Primal Nut wrote: »

The commentator on BBC mentioned some player index which listed Capdevilla as no.1 based on a formula of their contribution to games) while Schneider is way down the list. Anyone know what the index is?

Castrol index

You know its wrong when you have Demicheles and Gerrard!

JOAN CAPDEVILA ESP 9.79
2 SERGIO RAMOS ESP 9.74
3 ANTOLIN ALCARAZ PRY 9.70
4 PHILIPP LAHM DEU 9.66
5 MARTIN DEMICHELIS ARG 9.62
6 STEVEN GERRARD ENG 9.59
7 JUAN BRA 9.56
8 PAULO DA SILVA PRY 9.53
9 GERARD PIQUE ESP 9.50
10 GARY MEDEL CHL 9.48

namloc1980

A Primal Nut wrote: »

The commentator on BBC mentioned some player index which listed Capdevilla as no.1 based on a formula of their contribution to games) while Schneider is way down the list. Anyone know what the index is?

The 'load of crap' index?

A Primal Nut

_Bella_ wrote: »

Castrol index

You know its wrong when you have Demicheles and Gerrard!

A massive emphasis on full backs there. Perhaps they expected full backs to be excluded from high rankings as their contribution is hard to measure so they added in extra weightings for something that would help them. Still out of all of them, no Maicon.

I would say its mostly based on how much each player ran than anything else.

redout

Ramos should have used Iniesta there rather than cross.

_Bella_

This match is boring me sh*tless

Yakult

A poor game so far, Paraguay imo shouldnt even be this far, poor team. I dont think I will even watch the game because its gonna be tackle, misplaced pass, tackle, misplaced pass, shot way over bar etc. More action in a priests house.

Hope Im wrong tho.

Get Torres off, he ain't ****in fit

ragg

YAWN

Iniesta having a poor game so far.

Headshot

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

niallo27

I don't think it's down to torres fitness it's more his mentailty, his heart isn't in it with Spain, there is only one team he is interested in, you'll only get the best out of him in a red Liverpool shirt

tony1kenobi

Paraguay should be allowed to move their bench 60 feet to their right so the subs and coaching staff can get behind the ball as well.

MementoMori

tony1kenobi wrote: »

Paraguay should be allowed to move their bench 60 feet to their right so the subs and coaching staff can get behind the ball as well.

Snigger:)

_Bella_

With this performance you would have to fancy Germany

Nemanja91

_Bella_ wrote: »

With this performance you would have to fancy Germany

Of course, I haven't been satisfied by any of spains performances so far, C'mon Paraguay

MementoMori

Any surprise that Paraguay's best chance came down the left with Iniesta offering nothing in terms of defensive cover to Ramos?

Hate this Spanish formation -Villa as a left-winger Iniesta as a right winger:(

Lucky for Spain - they might have the ball but Paraguay have had the better chances

_Bella_

Phew close for Paraguay, this is exactly like the Swiss game

redout

_Bella_ wrote: »

Phew close for Paraguay, this is exactly like the Swiss game

Meh, the ref blew the whistle before the ball even dropped.

kingshankly

Torres fit or no fit is terrible

MementoMori

kingshankly wrote: »

Torres fit or no fit is terrible

Spain's setup doesnt suit him. wish he was on the bench.

MementoMori

MementoMori wrote: »

Spain's setup doesnt suit him. wish he was on the bench.

Wish he wasn't in South Africa at all.

_Bella_

MementoMori wrote: »

Spain's setup doesnt suit him. wish he was on the bench.

Spanish set up suits hardly any of them

redout

Llorente for Torres please.

mike65

Xavi and Iniesta are having a 'mare they can't cope with the close attention. Its stoneage from Paraguay but its working.

JohnnyRyan99

redout wrote: »

Meh, the ref blew the whistle before the ball even dropped.

Little Defensive are we?

Yakult

rarnes1 wrote: »

Wish he wasn't in South Africa at all.

Look on the brightside of Torres playing poorly. better chance of him staying at liverpool :P

steelcityblues

Not sure if it was right that the Valdez goal was disallowed!

mike65

kingshankly wrote: »

Torres fit or no fit is terrible

He's not fit. Thats bleedin obvious. Del Bosque is fecking nuts.

titan18

Really hope that Paraguay win this.Goal shouldn't be have been disallowed imo, and they are so impressive defensively.

kingshankly

surely torres should be minding himself Europa league qualifiers

steelcityblues

kingshankly wrote: »

surely torres should be minding himself Europa league qualifiers

Because it is so more prestigious than that World Cup nonsense!

From watching all Spains games so far I'd be very suprised if they win the WC.

Playing an injured player stinks of desperation tbh.

cruiserweight

steelcityblues wrote: »

Not sure if it was right that the Valdez goal was disallowed!

Valdez was onside but Cardoza was off and made a play for the ball

JohnnyRyan99

They've won 1 competition in 40 years.. This is not suprising from Spain.. Whats suprising is them being European Champs! Has everyone forgotten what underachievers they were up until 2 years ago??

steelcityblues

cruiserweight wrote: »

Valdez was onside but Cardoza was off and made a play for the ball

yet the ball was clearly meant for Valdez. Not an easy decision to make in a split-second, but paraguay have done alright so far!

Paparazzo

Spain have been fairly disappointing throughout the whole tournament.

_Bella_

Plus he handled the ball

Mr.Nice Guy

A nervy 45 minutes and suddenly Spain are no-hopers and Torres is useless? Long way to go, lads. Spain will step it up in the second half and Paraguay will go the way of Argentina.

redout

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

Little Defensive are we?

eh, stating the facts :rolleyes:

eagle eye

Paraguay have the best defense in the World Cup, I've been saying it for ages.

People here are talking about Spanish players not looking good, its because of the Paraguayan approach, the are not giving Xavi or Iniesta any space to create.

Its got nothing to do with underperforming Spanish players at all, its go all to do with everybody underrating Paraguay.

Melion

I predict Torres to go off around 65 minutes, Llorente to come on. Spain to win 2-0

_Bella_

Will the curse of the Spanish prevail?

JohnnyRyan99

eagle eye wrote: »

Paraguay have the best defense in the World Cup, I've been saying it for ages.

People here are talking about Spanish players not looking good, its because of the Paraguayan approach, the are not giving Xavi or Iniesta any space to create.

Its got nothing to do with underperforming Spanish players at all, its go all to do with everybody underrating Paraguay.

But to be fair the Spanish havent looked good against anyone

_Bella_

_Bella_ wrote: »

Will the curse of the Spanish prevail?

It's amazing that Ireland have gone as far in the WC as Spain ever have!

redout

Every Paraguay player in their own half when Spain go forward - not gonna be easy.

ArmaniJeanss

rarnes1 wrote: »

It's amazing that Ireland have gone as far in the WC as Spain ever have!

It would be amazing if it was true. But Spain have finished 4th in the World Cup so its not true

Paparazzo

rarnes1 wrote: »

It's amazing that Ireland have gone as far in the WC as Spain ever have!

Nah, makes sense. Both national leagues are evenly matched.

_Bella_

In this match there has been one shot on target, and it was in the very first minute...

Here comes Fabregas

Paparazzo

Fabregas coming on has to improve spain. Some of their passing has been terrible