Arsenal FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 10/11

gosplan

Frisbee wrote: »

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-talking-to-definite-transfer-targets-

I'll highlight some keywords for you too so it will be abundantly clear there was no promise:

I was gonna post this but you beat me to it Frisbee FACT!!!!

FUNKY LOVER

make that 2 fit CB'S for sunday!!

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/33994/injury-news

Pepe LeFrits

MementoMori wrote: »

It means Cavalieri will be leaving, as he's gotten tired of sitting on the bench.

Means nothing for Pepe.

I wouldn't say it means nothing to me, but I guess it's true I'm not THAT interested in Liverpool's back-up goalkeeper situation.

peabutler

Tickets to blackburn away are General sale folk, jus thought i'd let ye know.

Frisbee

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

UGHH i had this same discussion with you when i said wenger said we would win a trophy last season.

Once again, you seem to be confusing him saying we're good enough to win a trophy with him promising we will win a trophy.

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

well then why does wenger come out with this tripe if there is a chance it wont happen,it fills the majority of arsenal fans with false hope.

Em, because he's the manager. would you prefer if he came out and said:

"This team isn't good enough to win anything, our players are useless and I can't wait for my contract to be up and I can jump ship."

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

not you of course,because you understand wenger in a way others dont.

Ah sniping, no surer way to make yourself look petty.

MementoMori

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

I wouldn't say it means nothing to me, but I guess it's true I'm not THAT interested in Liverpool's back-up goalkeeper situation.

Keep your stinking mitts off our future captain

Frisbee

MementoMori wrote: »

Keep your stinking mitts off our future captain

Brad Jones? :pac:

MementoMori

Frisbee wrote: »

Brad Jones? :pac:

No you can have him.

Just not Pepe or Gulacsi.

yahoo_moe

Quazzie wrote: »

we've seldom been able to match United financially and even though we're told the money's there, I still await confirmation of this.

I think we all need to be more realistic about how attractive a proposition Arsenal are as well. The last few years we haven't looked like winning much (understandably given stadium, etc.) which definitely puts us slightly further down the pecking order when it comes to the top top (© Sky Sports) players.

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

well then why does wenger come out with this tripe if there is a chance it wont happen,it fills the majority of arsenal fans with false hope.

Even if he had promised to win a trophy, why would you just believe him rather than assessing our chances yourself? Clearly it's not something anyone can guarantee - way more clubs than trophies.

FUNKY LOVER

Frisbee wrote: »

Once again, you seem to be confusing him saying we're good enough to win a trophy with him promising we will win a trophy.



Em, because he's the manager. would you prefer if he came out and said:

"This team isn't good enough to win anything, our players are useless and I can't wait for my contract to be up and I can jump ship."



Ah sniping, no surer way to make yourself look petty.

i mean he should stop coming out with we might sign players before the world cup,im confident we will win a trophy,trust me in the transfer market etc because you know aswell as i do the majority of arsenal fans want and know we need 2-3 more players and it might just be enough to finally deliver a trophy.

yahoo_moe

gosplan wrote: »

Liverpool have agreed a fee of around 2.5million with Boro for keeper Brad Jones.

You.... don't .... think ....

Oh my, I do believe you're right.

Liverpool are spending more on a backup keeper than we are on a 1st choice!

FUNKY LOVER

yahoo_moe wrote: »

I think we all need to be more realistic about how attractive a proposition Arsenal are as well. The last few years we haven't looked like winning much (understandably given stadium, etc.) which definitely puts us slightly further down the pecking order when it comes to the top top (© Sky Sports) players.

Even if he had promised to win a trophy, why would you just believe him rather than assessing our chances yourself? Clearly it's not something anyone can guarantee - way more clubs than trophies.

i dont beleive it believe me!!but i think it conveniently keeps the wenger brigade happy,and we all know the board are happy no matter what,with the amount of money wenger saves them,even if it means challenginf for top 4 and reaching the last 4/8 of the champions league.

but come may we will hear the usual excuses,injuries cost us.....

when really our inept keeper and woeful defence will be our downfall.

MementoMori

yahoo_moe wrote: »

Oh my, I do believe you're right.

Liverpool are spending more on a backup keeper than we are on a 1st choice!

Chances are we will probably get the same if not more for Cavalieri, so it's not as if we're going nuts.

As a special offer how would you feel about Cavalieri for £5m......deal might take a while to go through.... probably Monday at the earliest though

FUNKY LOVER

looks like it will be scwharzer.is he an improvement on almunia??

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/soccer/let-me-go-pleads-schwarzer/story-e6frey4r-1225904624594

gosplan

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

i dont beleive it believe me!!but i think it conveniently keeps the wenger brigade happy,and we all know the board are happy no matter what,with the amount of money wenger saves them,even if it means challenginf for top 4 and reaching the last 4/8 of the champions league.

but come may we will hear the usual excuses,injuries cost us.....

when really our inept keeper and woeful defence will be our downfall.

Go support City tbh. You might still not get the trophies but you'll at least be happy about the transfer policy.

If the last link you posted comes true, it now looks as though this summer will result in us getting a young up and coming central defender to partner Vermaelen, a good striker to compete up top, and a very experienced and competent keeper.

Sorry if you feel you've been lied to because it all didn't happen before the world cup.

Sorry also if you expected 4 potential new first team players to come in (last club to do that before Chelsea and City please?)

FUNKY LOVER

gosplan wrote: »

Go support City tbh. You might still not get the trophies but you'll at least be happy about the transfer policy.

If the last link you posted comes true, it now looks as though this summer will result in us getting a young up and coming central defender to partner Vermaelen, a good striker to compete up top, and a very experienced and competent keeper.

Sorry if you feel you've been lied to because it all didn't happen before the world cup.

Sorry also if you expected 4 potential new first team players to come in (last club to do that before Chelsea and City please?)

is it a crime to expect arsenal,one of the most richest clubs in the world to compete in the league??

your go follow city or chelsea statement has been done to death by the wenger brigade,its ridiculous really,all the fans are asking for is to show a bit of ambition and sign the players we need,instead of cheapskate players so wenger can probe his youth project worked,which it has not,it has failed.

and what is the repercussions of it failing,its our players wanting to leave,like cesc,im sure he is sick of carrying a team with denilson,bendter,diaby in it.

funny thing is i dont want wenger out but i think its time his methods were questioned at least,he is way too stubborn to change though.

FUNKY LOVER

gosplan wrote: »

Go support City tbh. You might still not get the trophies but you'll at least be happy about the transfer policy.

If the last link you posted comes true, it now looks as though this summer will result in us getting a young up and coming central defender to partner Vermaelen, a good striker to compete up top, and a very experienced and competent keeper.

Sorry if you feel you've been lied to because it all didn't happen before the world cup.

Sorry also if you expected 4 potential new first team players to come in (last club to do that before Chelsea and City please?)

blackpool did it yesterday:D

Pepe LeFrits

http://twitter.com/JamieDalton82

Whoever he is, reckons the Schwarzer deal could be very close. Sad state of affairs that I'm desperate for him to be right.

SDTimeout

Twitter has exploded.

That's the guy i'm looking at now Pepe, him and goonblog

SDTimeout

Apparently a defender is on the way too from the sources of glorious twitter feed...

peabutler

RE Pool: Oh yeah, btw wasn't Poulesn absolutely dirt at the World Cup???


SDT

The CB talk is hotting up but don't think it's Saphic.

I have no followers

SDTimeout

peabutler wrote: »

RE Pool: Oh yeah, btw wasn't Poulesn absolutely dirt at the World Cup???


SDT

The CB talk is hotting up but don't think it's Saphic.

I have no followers

It's not Saphic alright, apparently it's either Subotic or Maik Franz from Eintracht Frankfurt

Love twitter,

Interesting that there are people at Colney so late tonight ! 4 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

peabutler

SDTimeout wrote: »

It's not Saphic alright, apparently it's either Subotic or Maik Franz from Eintracht Frankfurt

Love twitter,

Yea I just setup an account called Gunnertalk, its great for signings and spreading news fast.

L'prof

Paleface wrote: »

Does everyone here understand logic comparators?!

Wenger == liar

FALSE

Pepe LeFrits

Maik Franz?

You just made that name up. Admit it!

peabutler

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Maik Franz?

You just made that name up. Admit it!

No I heard of two Maik's

Maik Rodenberg who is a 21 CB who looks right down Wenger's alley and Maik Franz who is 29 and in the Saphic build nicknamed Iron-Maik.

Pepe LeFrits

Wikipedia, the source of all false knowledge:

Personal information
Full name - Maik Franz
Date of birth - 5 August 1981 (age 29)
Place of birth - Merseburg, Germany
Height - 2.90 m (9 ft 6 in)
Playing position - Centre back

Gotta love wikipedia!

Can't argue with a 9 foot defender!

gosplan

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

is it a crime to expect arsenal,one of the most richest clubs in the world to compete in the league??

No

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

your go follow city or chelsea statement has been done to death by the wenger brigade,its ridiculous really,all the fans are asking for is to show a bit of ambition and sign the players we need,instead of cheapskate players so wenger can probe his youth project worked,which it has not,it has failed.

Failure because we haven't been able to win titles since Chelsea came on the scene and the era of the Man U/Ronaldo team?

Arsenal's points totals since Wenger joined:

75, 72, 83, 68, 67, 83, 90, 78, 87, 70, 73, 78, 78

If you exclude the invincibles and the two years rebuilding after, it's remarkably consistent.

The league is simply far harder to win now. Even leaving aside the new stadium, it's quite a good achievement that Wenger is generally amassing the same points totals in a tougher league.

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

and what is the repercussions of it failing,its our players wanting to leave,like cesc,im sure he is sick of carrying a team with denilson,bendter,diaby in it.

I'd say he is. I'm delighted he came to the club but it's been unfortunate that his time at Arsenal hasn't aligned with a Henry or Wright. I often think about what we would have won if C.Ronaldo came to us and they played together.

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

funny thing is i dont want wenger out but i think its time his methods were questioned at least,he is way too stubborn to change though.

I think he's true to his principles. Sometimes things could be more effective but that the guy he is.

One thing I took from the interview the other days was when he spoke of bringing in new players and the effect it would have on those already there. It wasn't so much 'bringing in a midfielder would kill Diaby' this time, but more that it would negate 4 or 5 years time and money invested in a player.

He believes his players are good enough to win trophies and that's the only promise he makes. However, if Chelsea score a 100 goals in a season or United hit 85+ points for three seasons in a row, then what can you do? Is that Wenger failing?

yahoo_moe

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

is it a crime to expect arsenal,one of the most richest clubs in the world to compete in the league??

Like it or not though, a football club is a business that has shareholders to keep happy as well as fans (who invest money too, but with a different aim). As a business, Arsenal have been very successful in recent years - football-wise, they're doing far better than most other teams and a lot better than they have at other points in their history.

I'm the first to say we need another player or two but I'm not expecting trophies every year as that's unrealistic. Bit of context.

yahoo_moe

Papa Smut wrote: »

Can't argue with a 9 foot defender!

Literally... he'd just step on you!

gibson

2 fit centre backs and a choice between Almunia and Fabianski in goal oh dear

L'prof

Frisbee wrote: »

If we do sign him and he's as good for us as he always is for me in FM I'll be mighty happy.

How did he score???

peabutler

gibson wrote: »

2 fit centre backs and a choice between Almunia and Fabianski in goal oh dear

Mark SChwarzer will be announced late this evening or tomorrow.

L'prof

peabutler wrote: »

Mark SChwarzer will be announced late this evening or tomorrow.

Wooo...

peabutler

L'prof wrote: »

Wooo...

Or not....

Mixed messages on Twitter and most places.

yahoo_moe

Fernando Torres to be announced as an Arsenal player tomorrow afternoon.

Or not.

L'prof

peabutler wrote: »

Or not....

Mixed messages on Twitter and most places.

I'll be happyish if it goes through, I'm just hoping the unexpected happens and we pull someone young and good out of the bag. Either is better than (an unsurprising) failure to land any more signings!

tony1kenobi

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Maik Franz?

You just made that name up. Admit it!

Hallo....I am Borat.....I like to Maik Franz with you and learn your culture yes??

FUNKY LOVER

gosplan wrote: »

No



Failure because we haven't been able to win titles since Chelsea came on the scene and the era of the Man U/Ronaldo team?

Arsenal's points totals since Wenger joined:

75, 72, 83, 68, 67, 83, 90, 78, 87, 70, 73, 78, 78

If you exclude the invincibles and the two years rebuilding after, it's remarkably consistent.

The league is simply far harder to win now. Even leaving aside the new stadium, it's quite a good achievement that Wenger is generally amassing the same points totals in a tougher league.



I'd say he is. I'm delighted he came to the club but it's been unfortunate that his time at Arsenal hasn't aligned with a Henry or Wright. I often think about what we would have won if C.Ronaldo came to us and they played together.



I think he's true to his principles. Sometimes things could be more effective but that the guy he is.

One thing I took from the interview the other days was when he spoke of bringing in new players and the effect it would have on those already there. It wasn't so much 'bringing in a midfielder would kill Diaby' this time, but more that it would negate 4 or 5 years time and money invested in a player.

He believes his players are good enough to win trophies and that's the only promise he makes. However, if Chelsea score a 100 goals in a season or United hit 85+ points for three seasons in a row, then what can you do?Is that Wenger failing?

yes.he is given a contract to manage the team and win trophies.

peabutler

Talksport just said the MS deal is done

cson

w00t 37yr old goalkeeper heaven here we come! :pac:

Oh, to have Mad Jens back again...

I don't suppose he'll be playing then this weekend...

Fecking FPL, wrecking my every waking moment!

lord lucan

Am i the only one who finds it strange to be getting excited about the possible signing of a 37 year old keeper?

FUNKY LOVER

lord lucan wrote: »

Am i the only one who finds it strange to be getting excited about the possible signing of a 37 year old keeper?

nope your not,but thats the ambition of arsenal these days.middle table over the hill keeper,instead of just forking the money out for a top class keeper.

on a side note city nearly sign balotelli thats defo top 4 for them now.

L'prof

lord lucan wrote: »

Am i the only one who finds it strange to be getting excited about the possible signing of a 37 year old keeper?

I'm not getting excited. I'm a bit relieved, but it's only a stopgap and then the whole cycle starts again when he decides to give Fabianski another ****!

patrickc

peabutler wrote: »

Talksport just said the MS deal is done

hopefully will be confirmed soon so, and then buy Given next week:D

Akinfeev in January tyvm




and Ozil while we're at it. For the craic like :pac:

tony1kenobi

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

on a side note city nearly sign balotelli thats defo top 4 for them now.

If Arsenal nearly sign Messi and Ronaldo is that defo top 4 for us?Because we nearly did....in as much as we didn't.

greendom

Rumours that Gallas is in talks with Tottenham - seems fairly typical of his character if true.