Chelsea FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 10/11 (mod warning in post #7124)

amiable

I don't think Torres is finished.
I do think he's out of sorts and that is worrying.

I think you are backing your player which is the right thing to do.
Torres may not admit it but i reckon he'll be worried about it.
Any chance Chelsea might alter their formation to suit him better?

GavRedKing

amiable wrote: »

I don't think Torres is finished.
I do think he's out of sorts and that is worrying.

I think you are backing your player which is the right thing to do.
Torres may not admit it but i reckon he'll be worried about it.
Any chance Chelsea might alter their formation to suit him better?

Well the last few games the 4-4-2 with Ramires coming in off the right flank to allow Bos or Ivanovic to bomb on has worked and we have won games but the only formation Torres can play in with our current strikers is a 4-3-3.

If we go back to 4-3-3 we give Torres the best chance to get back to his best but we have to drop Drogba as he wont play wide left or right and be as effective. We tried 4-3-1-2 with Anelka in the hole and it worked against Sunderland but has failed since so I'd say Carlo is relucant to go back to it for the time being.

We got to rememebr the main thing for Chelsea at this stage of the season is to win games by any means and if players are dropped and we got to stick to formations we're players arent playing then so be it, the club is more important then egos.

During the summer I can see Drogba leaving, that would leave us with Kalou, Anelka, Torres, Sturridge, Kakuta. If this is the case I can see Carlo going back to 4-3-3 with Torres through the middle and any two of the above playing off him.

Short answer, for the time 4-4-2 is working as we are winning and thats all that matters, if it means Drogba/Anelka or Torres/Drogba or Torres/Anelka then they can take it in turns to sit it out, finishing as high as possible is the main aim nd we can sort the shape in the summer when we have time to muck about with it.

Sgt Pepper 64

amiable wrote: »

I don't think Torres is finished.
I do think he's out of sorts and that is worrying.

I think you are backing your player which is the right thing to do.
Torres may not admit it but i reckon he'll be worried about it.
Any chance Chelsea might alter their formation to suit him better?

We already have altered our formation for him!
Theres a number of considerations with Torres, most of them already posted!
1/ He was bought in January, many Jan signings dont do well as they have missed pre-season.
2/At Liverpool, he was a big fish in a small pool (No offence!)
At Chelsea he has Drogba and Anelka to compete with and/or find a way to play with. And to a lesser extent Kalou, plus the young strikers with something to prove such as Danny S when he returns from loan. (And SuperFrank who loves to get goals!)
3/ At Liverpool he was one dimensional and indulged by Benitez as such. At Chelsea we expect our strikers to track back, tackle and defend. Look at Drogba, a more complete player on his day would be hard to find, so Torres will have to adapt his game, which he has time on side to do

On the positive side, he has created competition for places, and just the fact that we splashed the cash gave everyone a huge lift after all the "Roman wants out" nonsense.
Carlo bought some of the famed AC Lab medical staff with him, so any injuries will be getting the very best attention.
He is still a class player, and it wasnt so long ago, that he scored a peach of a goal against us.
In the summer we will probably go out and buy a winger and other players that will "fit" more with him
Carlo is a very clever manager, and has lots of experience of getting the best out of players, making Pirlo a playmaker for example and backing Dida.
Carlo has also shown he isnt afraid to drop big players and change system (Eventually!)
Even Drogba had a "slow start" when he joined in 2004, scoring only 10 goals I think in the league. When Sheva was bought, many thought he would be leaving but he went onto to match Kerry Dixon 30 plus goals etc but that wasnt untill 2006

So its early days yet, if we are still talking about him negatively this time NEXT season, then come and join the roasting, but at the moment, theres more plusses than minus's in my book.
Look at Luis who gave a peno away and should have been red carded in his first two games, but he is still being hailed as a hero after 3 games!

So onwards and upwards for Chelsea, plenty to play for, and other teams are still going to worry when they see his name on the teamsheet.

amiable

flahavaj wrote: »

I told you I'll straighten you out by hook or by crook.;)

Good teach me how you think a team drawing a game is dropping 3 points:D

smuckers

According to talksport we are in advanced negotiations with milan over pato.

Crann na Beatha

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GavRedKing

smuckers wrote: »

According to talksport we are in advanced negotiations with milan over pato.

Would love to see it happen but it would cost big money too get him, I dont think Milan would be to keen to let him go.

Sgt Pepper 64

Obaraten wrote: »

Any link mate?

Wouldnt take it too seriously, and Pato hasnt done that well apparently

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/chelsea-launch-bid-santos-star-pair-neymar-ganso-1496331

chelseavera

He's never impressed when I've watched him, but it would mean stability on the managerial front (IF thats what we're looking for!!).

BTW C'MON BARCELONA!!!!

Sgt Pepper 64

chelseavera wrote: »

He's never impressed when I've watched him, but it would mean stability on the managerial front (IF thats what we're looking for!!).

BTW C'MON BARCELONA!!!!

Haha, Do we want to play Barca or Arsenal?
Arsenal we know we can beat despite the away blip.
Barca would be.......interesting!

Essien

Well, I for one want Arsenal, United, City and Spurs to be in Europe for as long as possible assuming it doesn't interfere with our progress, the busier they all are the better.

Also, I'd rather not come up against Barca later in the competition.

Panthro

am I the only one who hums "Sargent Pepper..whats the worst that can happen.." every time I see Sgt Pepper's name?!

Essien

papagormo wrote: »

am I the only one who hums "Sargent Pepper..whats the worst that can happen.." every time I see Sgt Pepper's name?!

That's ridiculous tbh

















I humm Sargent Peppers lonely hearts club band

Sgt Pepper 64

Essien wrote: »

Well, I for one want Arsenal, United, City and Spurs to be in Europe for as long as possible assuming it doesn't interfere with our progress, the busier they all are the better.

Also, I'd rather not come up against Barca later in the competition.

You might get your wish now!

Sgt Pepper 64

Essien wrote: »

That's ridiculous tbh
I humm Sargent Peppers lonely hearts club band

REVEALED!
Thats where it comes from - plus when i was born! :eek:

(Not that hard to work out actually, where does your Nic come from Essien???!!!)

Panthro

Ara we would take Barca no bother. Look at Arsenal down to 10 men and missing a key CB and still holding up.
Its amazing how confident I am after 3 wins on the bounce!

Essien

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

REVEALED!
Thats where it comes from - plus when i was born! :eek:

(Not that hard to work out actually, where does your Nic come from Essien???!!!)

Isn't it obvious? The British R&B star..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loick_Essien

amiable

Essien wrote: »

Well, I for one want Arsenal, United, City and Spurs to be in Europe for as long as possible assuming it doesn't interfere with our progress, the busier they all are the better.

Also, I'd rather not come up against Barca later in the competition.

You devious little so and so:D

Essien

amiable wrote: »

You devious little so and so:D

Care to elaborate?

amiable

Essien wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

Just joking mate. Relax
I think it was fairly self explanitary

Essien

amiable wrote: »

Just joking mate. Relax
I think it was fairly self explanitary

I was genuinely confused as to why that would be seen as devious, perfectly logical I would have thought.

I'm relaxed though, don't worry :cool:

amiable

Essien wrote: »

I was genuinely confused as to why that would be seen as devious, perfectly logical I would have thought.

I'm relaxed though, don't worry :cool:

I'm sure you are. I'm not worried

Sgt Pepper 64

I'm worried I'm not relaxed :eek:

amiable

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

I'm worried I'm not relaxed :eek:

Care to elaborate?

Essien

amiable wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

Just joking mate. Relax
I think it was fairly self explanitary

amiable

Essien wrote: »

Just joking mate. Relax
I think it was fairly self explanitary

I was genuinely confused as to why that would be seen as devious, perfectly logical I would have thought.

I'm relaxed though, don't worry

Panthro

Chelsea Reserves versus Bolton link here Blues fans.

MUSEIST

amiable wrote: »

I was genuinely confused as to why that would be seen as devious, perfectly logical I would have thought.

I'm relaxed though, don't worry

Essien wrote: »

Just joking mate. Relax
I think it was fairly self explanitary

amiable wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

I'm worried I'm not relaxed :eek:

amiable wrote: »

I'm sure you are. I'm not worried

Essien wrote: »

I was genuinely confused as to why that would be seen as devious, perfectly logical I would have thought.

I'm relaxed though, don't worry :cool:

amiable wrote: »

Just joking mate. Relax
I think it was fairly self explanitary

Essien wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

amiable wrote: »

You devious little so and so:D

What:eek:

Are ye two twins like jedward except one supports chelsea and the other liverpool. Is that whats going on here,

amiable

MUSEIST wrote: »

What:eek:

Are ye two twins like jedward except one suppots chelsea and the other liverpool. Is that whats going on here,

No not at all.
This escalated from the paranoia of Essien thinking someone was attacking him.
Couldn't see the joke right in front of his face
Shame on anyone coming into the Chelsea thread and disagreeing with some Chelsea fans.
Seems quite common lately:D

MUSEIST

amiable wrote: »

No not at all.
This escalated from the paranoia of Essien thinking someone was attacking him.
Couldn't see the joke right in front of his face
Shame on anyone coming into the Chelsea thread and disagreeing with some Chelsea fans.
Seems quite common lately:D

almost as common as liverpool fans in the chelsea thread, that seems to be popular these days:rolleyes:

GavRedKing

amiable wrote: »

No not at all.
This escalated from the paranoia of Essien thinking someone was attacking him.
Couldn't see the joke right in front of his face
Shame on anyone coming into the Chelsea thread and disagreeing with some Chelsea fans.
Seems quite common lately:D

MUSEIST wrote: »

almost as common as liverpool fans in the chelsea thread, that seems to be popular these days:rolleyes:

I LOVE LAMPs

:pac:

Essien

amiable wrote: »

No not at all.
This escalated from the paranoia of Essien thinking someone was attacking him.
Couldn't see the joke right in front of his face

Ironic post is Ironic :pac:

amiable

MUSEIST wrote: »

almost as common as liverpool fans in the chelsea thread, that seems to be popular these days:rolleyes:

By that you imply that Liverpool fans aren't allowed post in the Chelsea thread.
Jog on. If you want a chelsea love in organise one.

MUSEIST

amiable wrote: »

By that you imply that Liverpool fans aren't allowed post in the Chelsea thread.
Jog on. If you want a chelsea love in organise one.

ah no:rolleyes:
By that I am implying that you seem more interested in talking about chelsea than pool. Jog on:p

amiable

MUSEIST wrote: »

ah no:rolleyes:
By that I am implying that you seem more interested in talking about chelsea than pool. Jog on:p

Funny though i have considerably more posts in the Liverpool thread.
Get your facts straight.

MUSEIST

amiable wrote: »

Funny though i have considerably more posts in the Liverpool thread.
Get your facts straight.

So we are your second favourite team then:D

amiable

MUSEIST wrote: »

So we are your second favourite team then:D

Not at all. I post in the Arsenal, Man United, Spurs and Celtic threads.
Chelsea thread seems to be the only one who takes exception to it.
Your last few posts have been proved silly.

MUSEIST

amiable wrote: »

Not at all. I post in the Arsenal, Man United, Spurs and Celtic threads.
Chelsea thread seems to be the only one who takes exception to it.
Your last few posts have been proved silly.

Good for you, your badge is in the post:pac:

GavRedKing

amiable wrote: »

Not at all. I post in the Arsenal, Man United, Spurs and Celtic threads.
Chelsea thread seems to be the only one who takes exception to it.
Your last few posts have been proved silly.

< hillbilly accent >

We don't take kindly too strangers round these parts, ya hear?

:pac:

Sgt Pepper 64

Good to see Cech getting his 300th appearance the other night.

I wonder if he knows he's still only halfway to the Peter "The Cat" Bonetti's league record?
(Later only beaten by some bloke called Alan Knight)

Apparently he retired and became a postman briefly!

Essien

amiable wrote: »

Not at all. I post in the Arsenal, Man United, Spurs and Celtic threads.
Chelsea thread seems to be the only one who takes exception to it.
Your last few posts have been proved silly.

Nobody in this thread has taken any exception to you or anyone else posting here.

Lets leave it there.

Anyway, Chelsea, we haven't a feckin' thing to do for the next week, shame its not a transfer window this place would be buzzing!
Has anyone else thought about heading over to the next CL home game? I'm still up for it.

Panthro

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Good to see Cech getting his 300th appearance the other night.

Indeed fair play to him.
I honestly think he has been one of (if not our only) most consistant player this season.

GavRedKing

Essien wrote: »

Nobody in this thread has taken any exception to you or anyone else posting here.

Lets leave it there.

Anyway, Chelsea, we haven't a feckin' thing to do for the next week, shame its not a transfer window this place would be buzzing!
Has anyone else thought about heading over to the next CL home game? I'm still up for it.

Well I'll be up for it anyway, depending on the dates of our home leg.

What dates are the ties to be played on?

Essien

gavredking wrote: »

Well I'll be up for it anyway, depending on the dates of our home leg.

What dates are the ties to be played on?

5th/6th & 12th/13th of April

GavRedKing

Actually, with Shaktar beating Roma last night, and beating them well in the end, it has dawned on me about how many strong teams are left in the competition.

I know Shaktar and Barcelona are the only teams through at the moments and when ya look at the results from the other games its hard to call between whos going out or whos going to join the 2 above in the Quarter's (with the exception of us, I think we're going through quite easily)

Now, who would ye all like to see us face in the next round? Last night I was hoping for Shaktar but their home record, coupled with their natural attacking style will cause alot of teams problems IMO.

Im fairly confident we have the squad to win it this year and we have the game to beat all types of teams. I would have loved to seen us take a 2-1 lead to the Camp Nou and see how we would have faired against Bacrelona, I think we would have got at least a draw to get us through or better yet a clean sheet. I think we have the game to beat Barcelona over the two legs and if Im honest I'd rather play them now then to possibily meet in the final where its a once off game.

GavRedKing

Essien wrote: »

5th/6th & 12th/13th of April

I'd hope for the 5th anyway as im going to London for a WWE event ( I know, I know ) on the 17th in the o2 arena so hopefully I wont be to financially crippled. I know what I'd rather be going to anyway.

Sgt Pepper 64

Watching Pato with interest, seeing as we are constantly linked with him.
Not very impressed so far! Same with Robinho. Reckon we got a lucky escape there!

pistolpetes11

Essien wrote: »

Nobody in this thread has taken any exception to you or anyone else posting here.

Lets leave it there.

Anyway, Chelsea, we haven't a feckin' thing to do for the next week, shame its not a transfer window this place would be buzzing!
Has anyone else thought about heading over to the next CL home game? I'm still up for it.

Yep il be heading over too

Johner

If funds allow it I'll head over lads!

Thought Pato did well tonight,bit of class about him.

superfrank

Presuming we take care of Copenhagen..Who do we want in the next round?

Part of me says Barca to be honest, If were going to win it we need to beat the best..why not have a go in the Qtrs...

I'd love a semi final with Spurs but I'm prob getting ahead of myself now.....