Chelsea FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 10/11 (mod warning in post #7124)

Lukker-

Hiddink is the only man for the job really.

Sgt Pepper 64

More bookies speculation!

http://news.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/football/premier-league/forget-redknapp-guardiola-backed-to-be-next-chelsea-boss_063986.html

Johner

I'd ignore most gambles at the bookies, wouldn't take more than a couple of hundred euro to shift the market considerably.

Lukker-

Johner wrote: »

I'd ignore most gambles at the bookies, wouldn't take more than a couple of hundred euro to shift the market considerably.

Exactly, would be an amazing appointment, but it'll never happen.

Sgt Pepper 64

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Martin-Grisley-for-Chelsea-Manager/220263878003303

This chap looks good!

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/northampton_sunday_league_manager_in_running_to_replace_ancelotti_at_chelsea_1_2720293

Johner

“If I was manager of Chelsea I would like to sign another creative midfield player to unlock the potential of Fernando Torres.”

Sign him up!

Crann na Beatha

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bullpost

Though Barca were brilliant.

Having said that Utd were poor by their standards and players like giggs and Evra didnt show up.

From our perspective it puts our season into context as we finished behind Utd , well beaten in the league and if we are to entertain any hopes of landing a CL in the next few years we really need to move up a level.

Veles wrote: »

What did ye think of the UCL final last night?

Dozen Wicked Words

It was a very poor standard Premier League this year, first dozen games apart, a bit of a grind of a season for Chelsea. Saying that, I think we would have played better against Barcalona than United did, as I don't think our midfield would have given Messi as much room, although, being honest, I think the outcome would have been the same.

chelseavera

Veles wrote: »

What did ye think of the UCL final last night?

I think we made UTD look much better than they are over the last few weeks of the season. The mediocrity of Chelsea and Arsenal and mixed performances from City, gave Utd (and it would seem the media) a flawed sense of where their squad was at. For whatever reason, Ancelottis team had a dismal season - performance levels prior to this season would have seen us run-away with the title this year and I'd like to think, push Barca harder in the final - as we did 2 years ago.
On Barcelona though, the football they played for half an hour of the 2nd half last night was breathtaking.
Both Man U and Chelsea need to invest this summer and lets see how we line-up in August.

Sgt Pepper 64

dooferoaks wrote: »

It was a very poor standard Premier League this year, first dozen games apart, a bit of a grind of a season for Chelsea. Saying that, I think we would have played better against Barcalona than United did, as I don't think our midfield would have given Messi as much room, although, being honest, I think the outcome would have been the same.

We really, really should have won it and without having to beat Utd.

But we didnt.

I do think we will come back stronger next season however

MUSEIST

Veles wrote: »

What did ye think of the UCL final last night?

Barca are class, miles ahead of everyone else in terms of quality, they made utd look ordinary and they made us look ordinary. It just shows how far away we are at the moment from being a champions league winning side.

DazMarz

The only thing I will say about Barcelona is that a team with a very, very strong and sturdy defence, who don't give Barca's players space can beat them and/or run them very damn close (see: Internazionale Milano F.C. last year and Chelsea F.C. the year before).

But that said, they are a masterclass of football, and it would not be a bad bet for them to become the first team ever to defend the UEFA Champions League title.

Chelsea need to mount the almost impossible challenge of finding a new and brilliant manager within the next 2 months. Who is there that is world class enough to meet all the expectations of Abramovich? The list is very, very short and even on that short list would any of them be given the 2 or 3 seasons needed to mould, build and shape their team? Or if they fail to deliver European silverware to the club in their first season, are they also destined for the chop?

It will be an interesting summer for Chelsea Football Club, and hopefully one where the disappointments and mediocrity of the season put behind us and a new and brighter future put to the fore...

TheTosh

chelseavera wrote: »

I think we made UTD look much better than they are over the last few weeks of the season. The mediocrity of Chelsea and Arsenal and mixed performances from City, gave Utd (and it would seem the media) a flawed sense of where their squad was at. For whatever reason, Ancelottis team had a dismal season - performance levels prior to this season would have seen us run-away with the title this year and I'd like to think, push Barca harder in the final - as we did 2 years ago.
On Barcelona though, the football they played for half an hour of the 2nd half last night was breathtaking.
Both Man U and Chelsea need to invest this summer and lets see how we line-up in August.

imo chelsea are the only ones who could give barca problems with the way you's are set up and the strenght in midfield and if Chelsea pressed them like they do other teams, Barca wouldn't be able to pass around the ball as easily as they do. I remember the semi's in which Chelsea were robbed they had Barca

Gonzovision

I don't think we pressed any big team this season. Perhaps in previous years we would have given them a game, but certainly not this season.

MUSEIST

Some speculation that mancienne is off to hamburg,he was never going to make it at chelsea tbh. We already have 4 cbs

Oat23

MUSEIST wrote: »

Some speculation that mancienne is off to hamburg,he was never going to make it at chelsea tbh. We already have 4 cbs

4 year deal, medical Tuesday.

I don't know anything about him so I wont judge but others on the HSV forum aren't too happy we are spending €3.5m on him. We could use some help at the back though we had a midfielder playing CB for around 25 games this year .

Couple of things have to be sorted in the Bruma deal, he's off with the Dutch team at the minute but a 2 year loan deal with an option to buy is expected.

Lukker-

Oatesy23 wrote: »

4 year deal, medical Tuesday.

I don't know anything about him so I wont judge but others on the HSV forum aren't too happy we are spending €3.5m on him. We could use some help at the back though we had a midfielder playing CB for around 25 games this year .

Couple of things have to be sorted in the Bruma deal, he's off with the Dutch team at the minute but a 2 year loan deal with an option to buy is expected.

I think he's a handy player, with the competition for CB's, he was never going to get a regular spot though. He's definitely a good squad player to have, he can play CB, RB and he's also a fairly decent DM. I think with regular football he'd flourish. For a CB, he could do with a bit more muscle though.

amiable

MUSEIST wrote: »

Some speculation that mancienne is off to hamburg,he was never going to make it at chelsea tbh. We already have 4 cbs

IIRC the very player that i thought wouldn't make it at Chelsea and a poster here hence has me on ignore.

Of course he was right in hindsight

Mancienne isn't a bad player. Just not good enough for Chelsea IMO

flahavaj

Just the latest in a steady flow of young talent from the club that will continue over the next few years.

amiable

flahavaj wrote: »

Just the latest in a steady flow of young talent from the club that will continue over the next few years.

You deliberately wouldn't quote me there

MUSEIST

flahavaj wrote: »

Just the latest in a steady flow of young talent from the club that will continue over the next few years.

He is just not good enough for chelsea as his loan spell at wolves shows. The likes of maceachran and sturridge are very clearly of enough quality to make it at chelsea and with the likes of lukaku and neymar coming in we are well sorted for young talent:D

Don't worry vaj, chelsea will be fine

flahavaj

MUSEIST wrote: »

He is just not good enough for chelsea as his loan spell at wolves shows. The likes of maceachran and sturridge are very clearly of enough quality to make it at chelsea and with the likes of lukaku and neymar coming in we are well sorted for young talent:D

If Lukaku and Neymar come in then Sturridge's career at Chelsea is over!

MUSEIST

flahavaj wrote: »

If Lukaku and Neymar come in then Sturridge's career at Chelsea is over!

how exactly????

flahavaj

MUSEIST wrote: »

how exactly????

Assuming ye play a front three then you have:

Torres, Drogba, Anelka, Kalou, Malouda, Neymar and Lukaku cpmpeting for positions he'd be hoping to play in.

Even if ye let Drogba, Anelka and Kalou go (which is pretty unlikely), he's gonna struggle for games. Astounding transfer muppetry.

MUSEIST

flahavaj wrote: »

Assuming ye play a front three then you have:

Torres, Drogba, Anelka, Kalou, Malouda, Neymar and Lukaku cpmpeting for positions he'd be hoping to play in.

Even if ye let Drogba, Anelka and Kalou go (which is pretty unlikely), he's gonna struggle for games. Astounding transfer muppetry.

You are viewing things too short term, I am thinking of the bigger picture and assuming that drogba, malouda nad anelka are either out this season or next.
That leaves neymar, torres, danny and kalou to fight for 3 positions. Over the course of a season that equates to a lot of games and opertunities.

I think its highly likely that 2 of drogba, anelka and malouda will leave this summer and the other will leave next summer. Plenty of chances for young players to get a go in the chelsea forward line over the next few seasons with ageing players.

TerryTibbs!

flahavaj wrote: »

Just the latest in a steady flow of young talent from the club that will continue over the next few years.

2 central defenders. Show me big clubs that have brought them through and kept them as a fixture in the team in the last 10-15 years. When you fail to find any for this really important position on the pitch then kindly be quiet.

Will start you off.

Chelsea - John Terry

Sgt Pepper 64

MUSEIST wrote: »

He is just not good enough for chelsea as his loan spell at wolves shows. The likes of maceachran and sturridge are very clearly of enough quality to make it at chelsea and with the likes of lukaku and neymar coming in we are well sorted for young talent:D

Don't worry vaj, chelsea will be fine

flahavaj wrote: »

Assuming ye play a front three then you have:

Torres, Drogba, Anelka, Kalou, Malouda, Neymar and Lukaku cpmpeting for positions he'd be hoping to play in.

Even if ye let Drogba, Anelka and Kalou go (which is pretty unlikely), he's gonna struggle for games. Astounding transfer muppetry.

Its alright people, flahavaj likes to come and spread his love in our thread from time to time - normally when he's had a roasting in his own Man U thread!

You misunderstand the whole purpose of our youth setup.
Its not only to produce future chelsea players but also to generate money, which it is starting to do.
For example, buying a player for 100k and selling him on for 3 or 4 million.

It has been a long time coming but it is starting to work.
Roman has invested a lot of time and money in it

smuckers

We have Piazon coming in Jan too. Looks ike its going to be one of Aguero and Neymar, and we're favouring Neymar.
Hopefully we'll be in for a playmaker in CM.:)

Sgt Pepper 64

smuckers wrote: »

We have Piazon coming in Jan too. Looks ike its going to be one of Aguero and Neymar, and we're favouring Neymar.
Hopefully we'll be in for a playmaker in CM.:)

There is without doubt a lot of talent at Chelsea, both young and old.
The key is finding a manager that can:

A/ Harness it all together and more importantly
B/ be given the time to do it!

Honestly, I think we easily have the best squad in the League, but impatience has fecked us up a bit

smuckers

I hope its not going to be another summer of almost getting a target, Neymars agent denies any deal with CFC, if we can't get him, we should go all out for Aguero.

amiable

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Its alright people, flahavaj likes to come and spread his love in our thread from time to time - normally when he's had a roasting in his own Man U thread!

You misunderstand the whole purpose of our youth setup.
Its not only to produce future chelsea players but also to generate money, which it is starting to do.
For example, buying a player for 100k and selling him on for 3 or 4 million.

It has been a long time coming but it is starting to work.
Roman has invested a lot of time and money in it

You hit the nail on the head there IMO

If Chelsea or any other club with Champions league aspirations unearth a few Premier League standard players in their youth ranks they can be sold to help fund top notch players if they are just short of that standard themselves.

GavRedKing

I cant wait for our new manager to be unveiled and I cant wait for players to arrive, hopefullly Neymar but what I miss most and what I really, really cant wait for is the return of the_money, i miss him and his ways.

LanceStorm

gavredking wrote: »

I cant wait for our new manager to be unveiled and I cant wait for players to arrive, hopefullly Neymar but what I miss most and what I really, really cant wait for is the return of the_money, i miss him and his ways.

hahaha, we do love the money alright!!!!!!

Panthro

gavredking wrote: »

I cant wait for our new manager to be unveiled and I cant wait for players to arrive, hopefullly Neymar but what I miss most and what I really, really cant wait for is the return of the_money, i miss him and his ways.

When's he due to return to these fair lands?

Sgt Pepper 64

I suppose we are waiting and hoping for Turkey to fail!

The rags reckon 6 million a year to deliver at least the EPL, but ideally the EPL AND the CL.

Thats a fair price no?

GavRedKing

papagormo wrote: »

When's he due to return to these fair lands?

AFAIK its due too expire at the end of the season so I think he can post again after June 1st, I'll check the charter, its either an end of season ban or 6months, if I cant find anything ill drop him a PM.

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

I suppose we are waiting and hoping for Turkey to fail!

The rags reckon 6 million a year to deliver at least the EPL, but ideally the EPL AND the CL.

Thats a fair price no?

Great price if we get either TBH. What im concerened about is what are the chances of Carlo replacing Mancini at Man City? Was talking to a few friends and I can see it happening and that would be a disaster, I think City just lack the right manager at the club at the moment to go that extra step and seriously be in the title hunt.

Id hate if it happened though.

GavRedKing

papagormo wrote: »

When's he due to return to these fair lands?

gavredking wrote: »

AFAIK its due too expire at the end of the season so I think he can post again after June 1st, I'll check the charter, its either an end of season ban or 6months, if I cant find anything ill drop him a PM.

The-Monkey received his ban on the 1st / 2nd March so he'll be back 6 months from that date, as is the standard 6 yellow cards ban from the SF.

MUSEIST

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

I suppose we are waiting and hoping for Turkey to fail!

The rags reckon 6 million a year to deliver at least the EPL, but ideally the EPL AND the CL.

Thats a fair price no?

I just hope roman realises that we will NOT win the cl of pl with the current squad. Add a RB, AM and a replacement for anelka and we are sorted. Oh and hiddink aswell;)

Sgt Pepper 64

gavredking wrote: »

The-Monkey received his ban on the 1st / 2nd March so he'll be back 6 months from that date, as is the standard 6 yellow cards ban from the SF.

Should have a new manager by then, as well as a new right back, a certain brazillian forward and a creative midfielder, and be sitting pretty at the top of the league having won our first 6 games.

And then he will give out about all them!

GavRedKing

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Should have a new manager by then, as well as a new right back, a certain brazillian forward and a creative midfielder, and be sitting pretty at the top of the league having won our first 6 games.

And then he will give out about all them!

That would be our monkey alright :pac:

I can imagine it now, in our first 6 games would be 4 away trips to Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, and win them all with Torres getting 10 goals in 6 games and Hiddink winning manager of the month and yet he'd still find fault and come in and say how we we're going be relegated with 18 points :pac:

Ya gotta love the craziness sometimes. :cool:

Sgt Pepper 64

Interesting interview with the youth set up

http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/chelsea-youth-bracing-for-change---coach

Note this line!

“and there are also players who if they don't make it through still get sold to get revenues for the club and then have good careers."

Pepe LeFrits

gavredking wrote: »

That would be our monkey alright :pac:

I can imagine it now, in our first 6 games would be 4 away trips to Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, and win them all with Torres getting 10 goals in 6 games and Hiddink winning manager of the month and yet he'd still find fault and come in and say how we we're going be relegated with 18 points :pac:

Ya gotta love the craziness sometimes. :cool:

More likely he'd insist the quadruple was a cert, then following a draw against Wolves he'd herald a decade in the wilderness.

^---- note lack of smileys.

Panthro

Ah the oul monkey isn't the worst poster to the thread. I enjoy the odd bit craze from him from time to time.
He has the fear of god put into me with his relegation predictions!:pac:

Sgt Pepper 64

I see young Scott Sinclair has helped get Swansea into the Premiership.
Be interesting to see how his career carries on from there.

And also Borini, although I think he could be off to Italy

I think he now costs them 1 million to pay to us?

Panthro

Anyone else hoping the new manager will be able to persuade Borini to remain a Blue?

Johner

He's gone, he won't be signing a new contract, said he was wasting his career at Chelsea. Gutted a contract wasn't sorted out.

Panthro

Johner wrote: »

He's gone, he won't be signing a new contract, said he was wasting his career at Chelsea. Gutted a contract wasn't sorted out.

Is he officially gone altogether? Such a shame, would love to see what Danny and himself can do.

MUSEIST

I would love borini to stay but he would never get a game with us, drogba and torres, maybe danny are ahead of him.

Is he going to italy or staying with swansea

amiable

MUSEIST wrote: »

I would love borini to stay but he would never get a game with us, drogba and torres, maybe danny are ahead of him.

Is he going to italy or staying with swansea

And I think Chelsea may sign Neymar this summer so he'd be even further down the pecking order.

He's not quite good enough for Chelsea IMO