Chelsea FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 10/11 (mod warning in post #7124)

kryogen

really? if true thats a very odd buy out clause, Spain tends to have ridiculous buy out clauses included such as 110million +

Johner

kryogen wrote: »

really? if true thats a very odd buy out clause, Spain tends to have ridiculous buy out clauses included such as 110million +

51million down to 38million is the rumoured drop.

Gonzovision

Not getting my hopes up this time.....:o

flahavaj

I don't think ye have that kind of money any more to spend on one player. Ye only broke the 30 mill mark once and it was a disaster, Abramovich
has been much more frugal since.

There was all kinds of talk of big signings on here last Summer, in the end the net outlay was fairly modest. The days of breaking the bank at Chelsea are over. Roman has lost his smile.

kryogen

Is there any credible sources for this rumoured drop in buy out clause?

chelseavera

kryogen wrote: »

Is there any credible sources for this rumoured drop in buy out clause?

Note this is Euro .... and it was in the sports pages during the week.
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/football/news/article/-/8606547/chelsea-alerted-as-new-atletico-madrid-deal-for-aguero-reduces-buyout-clause/

kryogen

Thanks, but tribalfootball.com does nothing at all for me.

chelseavera

kryogen wrote: »

Thanks, but tribalfootball.com does nothing at all for me.

Or the Daily Mail i suppose either ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1344305/Manchester-United-Chelsea-target-Sergio-Aguero-release-clause-drops-38m.html

I'll find you a credible one yet!

kryogen

Not usually but for arguements sake, Id like a bid for him if thats his new buy out clause!

chelseavera

Well here's hoping .... indication of ongoing support from Roman if true.

Lukker-

flahavaj wrote: »

I don't think ye have that kind of money any more to spend on one player. Ye only broke the 30 mill mark once and it was a disaster, Abramovich
has been much more frugal since.

There was all kinds of talk of big signings on here last Summer, in the end the net outlay was fairly modest. The days of breaking the bank at Chelsea are over. Roman has lost his smile.

A load of shít tbh, if we spend 18m on 3 diff back-up players I def don't think Ronan will have a problem paying up 30 mil for a player. Problem was it hasn't been worthwhile spending that much on players for the last while.

Gonzovision

Steve Clark joining Liverpool

GavRedKing

After that 7 - 0 mauling of Ipswich the treble is still on, were back and thats all that matters, I can see us winning every game from now until the end of the season, without fail, bring them all on TBH.




* Above post is a break from the norm around here and a bit of an anti the_monkey post

Lukker-

gonzovision wrote: »

Steve Clark joining Liverpool

Great appointment for them if it goes through.

mike65

Gone through (I suspect Chelsea could do with him back right now)

amiable

Lukker- wrote: »

Great appointment for them if it goes through.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/steve-clarke-joins-liverpool

Its official

GavRedKing

mike65 wrote: »

Gone through (I suspect Chelsea could do with him back right now)

Great for Liverpool, got a real good assistant.

I would have prefered to keep Wilkins though then have Clarke, wilkins just seemed more in touch with the team and players, although that could be down to his touch line image too, but no doubt Liverpool have got a good football man in to help Kenny, well done.

Sgt Pepper 64

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/09/hayley-moorwood-chelsea-new-zealand?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theguardian%2Ffootball%2Frss+%28Football%29

Gonzovision

Maybe she'll be starting ahead of Essien :rolleyes:

Lukker-

probably couldn't do worse

kryogen

are chelsea fans turning on Essien? ridiculous, we'll have him at united in a heartbeat if you wanna off load him

missingtime

If ye sign Aguero I'm gonna cry!!!

GavRedKing

kryogen wrote: »

are chelsea fans turning on Essien? ridiculous, we'll have him at united in a heartbeat if you wanna off load him

:eek:

Stay away from him, hes not for sale at any price.I dont think any Chelsea fan can turn on Essien, he is one of a very few, small selection of midfielders who has it all, if we lose Essien we lose our steel in midfield.

Like most of the Chelsea players, he is going through a tough period of personal performances not meeting his high standards. I love Essien, I dont want him leaving at all, but every fan is different, I just think people turning on him is laughable, top quality player.

bullpost

Not this one.

He's been immense for us over the years and whatever is going wrong at the moment goes beyond Essien.

Would be great to see him back to his best though.

kryogen wrote: »

are chelsea fans turning on Essien? ridiculous, we'll have him at united in a heartbeat if you wanna off load him

pistolpetes11

kryogen wrote: »

are chelsea fans turning on Essien? ridiculous, we'll have him at united in a heartbeat if you wanna off load him

Not at all ,

Our worst player this season IMO has been Ashley Cole , have a nightmare and a lot of our defensive errors come down to him.

Essien will get into gear very soon and will be back bossing the middle of the park

Sgt Pepper 64

bullpost wrote: »

Not this one.

He's been immense for us over the years and whatever is going wrong at the moment goes beyond Essien.

Would be great to see him back to his best though.

Except when you see him charging through, taking aim and then row Z again.
And Kalou has been consistantly our worst player, he misses soooo many chances it makes me cry for poor young Danny

(And then he claims Anelkas one!)

Essien

kryogen wrote: »

are chelsea fans turning on Essien? ridiculous, we'll have him at united in a heartbeat if you wanna off load him

I am

Not really though, I obviously have mucho man love for our Michael

smuckers

Correct me If I'm wrong but didn't Carlos dad die before our slump? if so that would explain our poor performances. he's only human afterall it puts thing into perspective.

DazMarz

smuckers wrote: »

Correct me If I'm wrong but didn't Carlos dad die before our slump? if so that would explain our poor performances. he's only human afterall it puts thing into perspective.

last season

Gonzovision

smuckers wrote: »

Correct me If I'm wrong but didn't Carlos dad die before our slump? if so that would explain our poor performances. he's only human afterall it puts thing into perspective.

Certainly could be a factor in his demenour on the touchline alright.

GavRedKing

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

Not at all ,

Our worst player this season IMO has been Ashley Cole , have a nightmare and a lot of our defensive errors come down to him.

Essien will get into gear very soon and will be back bossing the middle of the park

I think its close between Ferriera and Kalou for our worse player this season, Ferriera for been such a liability anywhere he is played and Kalou for not performing reguarly at any level, Anelka has been very poor too though.

Sgt Pepper 64

gavredking wrote: »

I think its close between Ferriera and Kalou for our worse player this season, Ferriera for been such a liability anywhere he is played and Kalou for not performing reguarly at any level, Anelka has been very poor too though.

I wonder about Anelka though. When he played upfront on his tod, with Drogba away on African nations he did very well. (And CL as well)
But Carlo plays him 4-3-3, pushed out on the right!

GavRedKing

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

I wonder about Anelka though. When he played upfront on his tod, with Drogba away on African nations he did very well. (And CL as well)
But Carlo plays him 4-3-3, pushed out on the right!

True IMO Anelka is better served coming wide form the left, at the end of the day hes a goal scorer on the right hes coming inside, its his natural thing to do and hes coming into traffic on his weaker left lef, for Arsenal when he first came he played through the middle but had that Thierry Henry love form coming in off the left, when Anelka shifts the ball on to his right hes devasting but he cant do that on the right.

So for my money hes better played left but that wont happen as Malouda has that sown up an dI dont see Carlo changing back to 4-4-2 diamond.

Johner

Youth Cup on Thursday, away to Sunderland.

if we win that it's Arsenal in the 4th round. Hopefully we can go all the way again this year.

ShoulderChip

Sweet Jesus make this a january miracle

Gonzovision

Daniel Philliskirk has joined Sheffield Utd. on a 1 month loan.

Sgt Pepper 64

http://www.chelseadaft.org/2011/01/steven-pienaar-linked-what-do-you-think.html


http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/abramovich-wants-grant-chelsea-part-barcelona-type-restructure-1377701



Hope this is just silly season

Finally, Pat Neven's recent article

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2263599,00.html

Johner

Pienaar is a great little player but I'd like us to go for someone else.

Edit. just read about Pienaar, for 3million that would be a bargain but why so low? Is his contract up soon?

smuckers

In the summer

DazMarz

It's been said already, but I think to say again... the players Chelsea needs are:

-replacement for Carvalho/supplement for Terry; arguably we have Bruma for this already, but we need someone to be brought in with more experience and knowhow. Gary Cahill would be excellent, but Coyle is not an idiot and it would potentially take well over £10m to prise him away from Bolton.

-replacement for Ballack/Deco; we were unfortunate in this regard as both Lampard and Benayoun both succumbed to injury for large swaths of the season and either of these players (Ballack moreso) would have been brilliant to have waiting in the wings to step in. Bastian Schweinsteiger would be the man I'd love to see in Royal Blue come the summer, his contract being up soon would also make him attractive for us to pursue.

-supplement for Drogba/Anelka; Studge is not up to it, IMO. Sergio Aguero would be the dream supplement here and would easily elbow both Kalou and Sturridge well down the pecking order. A shock swoop for Torres in the summer wouldn't be the worst move either, but I think that's just me kinda dreaming more than reality, in all fairness!!!:o

-a 2nd-in-command for Cech; the young Croat 'keeper could prove to be just that...

GavRedKing

DazMarz wrote: »

It's been said already, but I think to say again... the players Chelsea needs are:

-replacement for Carvalho/supplement for Terry; arguably we have Bruma for this already, but we need someone to be brought in with more experience and knowhow. Gary Cahill would be excellent, but Coyle is not an idiot and it would potentially take well over £10m to prise him away from Bolton.

Think Injuries didnt help, Carlo would have loved to Alex or Ivanovic fighting for the place, but with problem at RB and Alex out we are stuck for options. Cahill would be a good long term replacement but I can see Bruma been a star for this club in the long term, hes a good player and will develop into a solid, dependable CB.

-replacement for Ballack/Deco; we were unfortunate in this regard as both Lampard and Benayoun both succumbed to injury for large swaths of the season and either of these players (Ballack moreso) would have been brilliant to have waiting in the wings to step in. Bastian Schweinsteiger would be the man I'd love to see in Royal Blue come the summer, his contract being up soon would also make him attractive for us to pursue.]

Bastian would be an excellen signing, after the WC it would have cost a bomb to get him, maybe this summer could be different, I would have liked to seen Kheidera in a Chelsea jersey, hes been good for Real Madrid this year and hes a good midfielder he was got on the cheap too by Madrid.

-supplement for Drogba/Anelka; Studge is not up to it, IMO. Sergio Aguero would be the dream supplement here and would easily elbow both Kalou and Sturridge well down the pecking order. A shock swoop for Torres in the summer wouldn't be the worst move either, but I think that's just me kinda dreaming more than reality, in all fairness!!!:o

Aguero would be the dream, dont see it happening but Id love it, we do need replacement for Drogba and Anelka, Lukaku and Aguero would be ideal for me. I still have hope for Sturridge, he has the ability just needs to be more consistent.

-a 2nd-in-command for Cech; the young Croat 'keeper could prove to be just that...

Turnbull seems decent for the moment but the young keeper on loan seems to be the ideal replacement, not too many stand out young keepers around, maybe Lloris, would be expensive, De Gea, wont be sold, Asenjo, wont be sold

Smegball

Schweinsteiger recently signed a new contract!

GavRedKing

True, Bastian signed an extension until 2014, open to correction though on that.

pistolpetes11

DazMarz wrote: »

It's been said already, but I think to say again... the players Chelsea needs are:

-replacement for Carvalho/supplement for Terry; arguably we have Bruma for this already, but we need someone to be brought in with more experience and knowhow. Gary Cahill would be excellent, but Coyle is not an idiot and it would potentially take well over £10m to prise him away from Bolton.

-replacement for Ballack/Deco; we were unfortunate in this regard as both Lampard and Benayoun both succumbed to injury for large swaths of the season and either of these players (Ballack moreso) would have been brilliant to have waiting in the wings to step in. Bastian Schweinsteiger would be the man I'd love to see in Royal Blue come the summer, his contract being up soon would also make him attractive for us to pursue.

-supplement for Drogba/Anelka; Studge is not up to it, IMO. Sergio Aguero would be the dream supplement here and would easily elbow both Kalou and Sturridge well down the pecking order. A shock swoop for Torres in the summer wouldn't be the worst move either, but I think that's just me kinda dreaming more than reality, in all fairness!!!:o

-a 2nd-in-command for Cech; the young Croat 'keeper could prove to be just that...

Agree wit ha lot of what you say here , but I think with game time and guidance, Sturridge could become a excellent player for the club.

10 or 15 mins here and there is not use , he needs some serious game time and Kalou should not be seeing the light of day , im finished with him , very wasteful and un-clinical.

Kalou would be my second in line after Ashley Cole for Twat of the season !

DazMarz

Thought Bastian's contract was up soon... or so I'd heard... Pity now.

But still, I'd hope we're willing to splash the big cash to go and chase someone like him. Schweinsteiger, Sneijder, etc. someone like that... Has to be done now, I reckon, tbh.

Lukker-

I don't think we need a CM too much, I'd say we need an actual winger on the right. When we play Anelka there we have a serious lack of width.

Sgt Pepper 64

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

Agree wit ha lot of what you say here , but I think with game time and guidance, Sturridge could become a excellent player for the club.

10 or 15 mins here and there is not use , he needs some serious game time and Kalou should not be seeing the light of day , im finished with him , very wasteful and un-clinical.

Completely agree, untill we try the lad in 3 or 4 games, we may never know. Problem is, as Carlo has no doubt been told today by Roman (Love to have been a fly on the wall, in that meeting!) We need results and Carlo cannot afford to gamble. He didnt even play Ross T in the cup!

smuckers

I agree Cole hasn't had the best of seasons, but he has carrying an ankle injury for past year or so.

pistolpetes11

smuckers wrote: »

I agree Cole hasn't had the best of seasons, but he has carrying an ankle injury for past year or so.

He has made a couple of clangers and if he is injured he should just go and get it sorted , PVA looks well up to the challenge, not only that he looks uninterested.

I cant say how much is Peed me off that he tried to play the offside trap on his own 6 yard line in the last minute of the game rather than throw himself at that ball, after getting into a 3-2 lead I would been throwing everything on the line to try and win that ball.

made my blood boil , I look at that draw as the end of our season , could of been huge , a win there and the confidence going into the next game would have been very high.

chelseavera

Lukker- wrote: »

I don't think we need a CM too much, I'd say we need an actual winger on the right. When we play Anelka there we have a serious lack of width.

.... and pace. Would love to see us buy someone like Alexis Sanchez (the chilean who impressed at the WC). He's currently playing with Udinese - and would not cost the earth. Rumoured Fergies after him (like they need more width!!).