Recruitment Freeze

wannabe2010

Just heard on the news that PSNI recruitment has been frozen for the foreseeable future!!! Can't believe it! Major gutted What's people's thoughts on this etc..

B182

I watched that then rewinded and listened again and I think it's from after march , or il rephrase that I hope it's after march still can't work it out when I listen lol

B182

Watched it again it starts as off now !!!

princess deity

here calm down peeps. if you think about it this way, money has been pumped into this campaign and i would safely say they are not going to go to the loss, so i would say its future campaigns are on a freeze.
now the super dooper fast process is making scene.....

WTF??? I just got home and it's the first thing I hear on the telly! Raging doesn't even come close... I only just got my AC pass today Really do
hope it's no more campaigns and not actually immediate but it doesn't sound that way. Truely gutted.

Wonder will we get official word from the psni??

B182

princess deity wrote: »

here calm down peeps. if you think about it this way, money has been pumped into this campaign and i would safely say they are not going to go to the loss, so i would say its future campaigns are on a freeze.
now the super dooper fast process is making scene.....

that could be poss as the letters did say dont defer as march will be end of the recuitment or something on them along them lines

but they said it was from immediate effect

wannabe2010

Naw but I'm gutted cuz I failed this time around lol and I was putting my faith in future campaigns... which are now down the sh1tter

wannabe2010

Btw congratz plugin hope my (NON-ILLEGAL just so yous know lol) tips helped

B182

heres the story

http://www.u.tv/News/PSNI-freezes-recruitment/91aee1e3-6fb1-4bfe-9b74-4c2d532b04f8

Bubbles34

FFS!

shampon

Just when everything was going well...

Troy Bayliss

Wasn't that a bolt from the blue, on the plus side he could be positioning for more money on the negative he is serious and its kapput for us.:(

jclegs

What does this mean for the August intake? I'd be gutted to get this far and then be told sorry

cesc77

Ive just got home from my AC to hear this.I am furious,not just as applicant but as a citizen that this government is freezing recruitment at a time when the threat level is severe.
If he has to save around 150 million then the money wasted on recruiting is small fry.
Nothing surprises me any more and I have so much sympathy for those who are on the cusp of starting....
If this is true I shall be considering the mainland before applying here again.
This part of the boards site will be a wasteland.......
Does the moderator, psni have anything which he may have heard to aley fears ,or is it a case of wait on the Dear Johns across the board

VES86

i cant believe alex maskey is complaining that the 50/50 quota hasnt been met...like seriously...does he not think that no new recurits to bolster numbers at a time when dissident threats is so high may be a slightly bigger issue and one better to raise? politicians are twats

VES86

princess deity wrote: »

here calm down peeps. if you think about it this way, money has been pumped into this campaign and i would safely say they are not going to go to the loss, so i would say its future campaigns are on a freeze.
now the super dooper fast process is making scene.....

or they are just blazing through this "campaign" as they knew this freeze was coming and wanted to i guess use the service they have already paid deloitte etc for

Waiting Game

I hope those of you who have all the stages completed wont be scrapped..I know how I'd feel if the same were to happen with my Garda Siochana application.I saw few weeks back there on bbc news where the Met Police told 2,000 people who had all stages completed that they were scrapped.

cesc77

cesc77 wrote: »

Ive just got home from my AC to hear this.I am furious,not just as applicant but as a citizen that this government is freezing recruitment at a time when the threat level is severe.
If he has to save around 150 million then the money wasted on recruiting is small fry.

Don't get me started on the government :mad: They can afford to keep throwing away money on things like benefits for people who there isn't a damn thing wrong with them, yet it's ok to lump ridiculous budget cuts on police forces that are already stretched...they may save money, but we will all suffer for it as a community. The PSNI is one of, if the the largest force in proportion to the size of the area it serves, but it's like that for a reason. This is not the right way to go given the current threat situation, the gorverment needs to catch the f**k on.

Part of me really wants to believe that they have just misused the word "immediate" and that they really mean no more campaigns, and that we'll be fine as if this has been brewing for a while (which by the looks of it, it has) then they wouldn't have wasted so much money going through the largest and most expensive parts of the campaign only to let that be a complete waste and the rest of this campaign will continue. But then the other part of me just thinks of the Met, they were completly through the process and were ready to start training but still that was the end for them, which indicates were f**ked...

If this is simply end of recruitment full stop, I feel truely sorry for those who have just recieved the call from the last campaign.

Can't I just have one full day of happiness in peace ffs!!

cesc77

As was posted previously,like you say pluginbaby, on another thread 2000....yes 2000 met recruits due to start were told.....sorry dont need you now...please feel free to reapply at a future date.
Do not be surprised if this is exactly what happens here.
Good old Cameron,eh?
I concur about the scroungers, but who are we but the taxpayers who pay for their "lifestyle choice"...

shampon

"Mr Baggott said if the proposal did not get support, he would have to recruit an extra 400 officers to do the job."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_ireland/10477246.stm

?! Confused ?! Does

kc29

in same boat as everyone else here. does psni moderator have a comment or are we all goin to be left hanging!

VES86

shampon wrote: »

"Mr Baggott said if the proposal did not get support, he would have to recruit an extra 400 officers to do the job."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_ireland/10477246.stm

?! Confused ?! Does

looking at it positivley...maybe the last intake and some of this campaign can provide those officers.....thats always a hope....a faint faint hope

triple-M

What a major kick in the balls,same thing happened in the garda I have mates who applied during the 2008 campaign passed all their tests then were left waiting for the last 2 years due to recruitment freeze,majorly peed off,

Kaori

Just a thought, they have said recruitment freeze, not cancellation. Maybe those who get through to the end will be kept on a list until recruitment, er, thaws? You never know...

shampon

shampon wrote: »

"Mr Baggott said if the proposal did not get support, he would have to recruit an extra 400 officers to do the job."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_ireland/10477246.stm

?! Confused ?! Does

Aah that's what that bit was! Somebody kept talking over it at me (and nearly got a punch in the face to shut them up!) all I heard was recruit 400 something something...

I did have an inkling last night when I heard this talk of using civilian guards that it was a bad sign, really didn't expect this though!


Oh psni where art thou?? We need your wise words and inside info before we start rioting ...maybe not a bad idea that, might show them this is a completly stupid thing to do and that they need more officers!


edit: I am totally not endorsing rioting, honest

VES86

Kaori wrote: »

Just a thought, they have said recruitment freeze, not cancellation. Maybe those who get through to the end will be kept on a list until recruitment, er, thaws? You never know...

fingers crossed.

being a police officer has been a wish of mine from childhood. this is like a kick in the teeth...bring on another couple of years of a tedious job i have no intrest in..grrrrrrreat

shampon

"The department has asked all the areas that it funds to produce plans as to how it would make cuts against two scenarios, 5% year on year and 8% year on year," he said.

"We have not asked anyone to make any level of cuts for 2011 on because the budget outcome is not yet known"

I'm going to remain positive...I believe this is smoke and mirror type shiiiiiiite. You know, he wants an extra 5 million a year so he fly's a kite, uproar ensues, he get's his 5 mil...?

Cashflow

Well I guess I can give some small information from inside the force, at least what I know anyway.

Garnerville is downsizing, big time. A few weeks ago all of the Sergeants were interviewed for their current training job, I can't remember how many they were keeping, but its roughly half. The other half are going back on the streets.

Essentially, this means that the amount of recruits that will be in training at any one time will more than likely be smaller, so expect less intakes/smaller squads per intake.

However, its not all doom and gloom. I saw a list (not revealing where) of all the intakes happening within the next year, and there are are still some running into 2011. The recruitment freeze more than likely means anything past the current campaign, as the budget would already have allowed for this one.

Delancey

I would like to see more information before coming to a conclusion - one link to a UTV news item is all I have seen , that said the words '' with immediate effect '' are pretty chilling.
I have to say that a recruitment freeze was inevitable at some point given the huge cuts required in UK public spending - my hope was the freeze would be after C 16 was finished.
If this freeze is as bad as some fear , one thing it will mean is that when recruitment resumes ( whenever that may be ) that 50/50 will have to be extended again - it was due to end in March 2011 at which point 30% RC representation would have been reached , that target cannot be reached if recruitment freezes now.
I note that nothing has been mentioned about the Full-Time reserve - that suggests their abolition will happen as planned - again I had hoped their disbandment would mean more recruitment.

How this announcement impacts those due to go to GV in August is a good question.


I really would like to see more detailed info.

shampon

Cashflow wrote: »

Well I guess I can give some small information from inside the force, at least what I know anyway.

Garnerville is downsizing, big time. A few weeks ago all of the Sergeants were interviewed for their current training job, I can't remember how many they were keeping, but its roughly half. The other half are going back on the streets.

Essentially, this means that the amount of recruits that will be in training at any one time will more than likely be smaller, so expect less intakes/smaller squads per intake.

However, its not all doom and gloom. I saw a list (not revealing where) of all the intakes happening within the next year, and there are are still some running into 2011. The recruitment freeze more than likely means anything past the current campaign, as the budget would already have allowed for this one.

owe you a pint ?!

shampon

shampon wrote: »

"The department has asked all the areas that it funds to produce plans as to how it would make cuts against two scenarios, 5% year on year and 8% year on year," he said.

"We have not asked anyone to make any level of cuts for 2011 on because the budget outcome is not yet known"

I'm going to remain positive...I believe this is smoke and mirror type shiiiiiiite. You know, he wants an extra 5 million a year so he fly's a kite, uproar ensues, he get's his 5 mil...?

I want to be positive but I'm just finding it incredibly hard right now! There are so many little things that would lead us to believe that it's not quite what it appears to be at the moment, and that it's possibly a freeze in future campaigns. Even the wording in the AC letters, the abnormal speed of this campaign, the rumours that have been flying about for ages of an extra campaign being sqeezed out in Sept before budget cuts, what you have just quoted... it's just all strange.

I take it this also means the end of the plans for the new college, it sounded class

theinsider1

Ok Guys
Recruitment for the campaign 1001 is safe for now the process is almost complete, the probable reason why things are happening so quickly this year is in anticipation for no further employment of recruits for a period from the next financial year (April 2011). This is in line with current PSNI commitments and Patten which is also due to cease in March 2011. The recruitment freeze that is talked about is with immediate effect this means no further advertising PSNI jobs, those in the pipeline will remain safe for now!
Hope this helps.

Kaori

theinsider1 wrote: »

Ok Guys
Recruitment for the campaign 1001 is safe for now the process is almost complete, the probable reason why things are happening so quickly this year is in anticipation for no further employment of recruits for a period from the next financial year (April 2011). This is in line with current PSNI commitments and Patten which is also due to cease in March 2010. The recruitment freeze that is talked about is with immediate effect this means no further advertising PSNI jobs, those in the pipeline will remain safe for now!
Hope this helps.

Thanks for your post. This news explains why we were told in our a/c pass letters not to defer. Fingers crossed now that those of us still waiting receive vetting forms!

cesc77

Would it be so hard to say within the statement that ..."as of 2011 we will be imposing a recruitment freeze"?With "immediate effect" sounds extremely ominous.

What is a feckin freeze anyway?

Excuse me if I take your post with a pinch of salt as it seems to be your first one on this forum....

pessimist/sceptic in me...eh,delancy?

Oh,and I wouldnt be surprise if psni took some time off as Im sure he will be inundated with queries

shampon

A recruitment cold snap?!

theinsider1

theinsider1 wrote: »

Ok Guys
Recruitment for the campaign 1001 is safe for now the process is almost complete, the probable reason why things are happening so quickly this year is in anticipation for no further employment of recruits for a period from the next financial year (April 2011). This is in line with current PSNI commitments and Patten which is also due to cease in March 2011. The recruitment freeze that is talked about is with immediate effect this means no further advertising PSNI jobs, those in the pipeline will remain safe for now!
Hope this helps.

Hmm...I'm intrigued! Username: theinsider, Join date: today, Post count: just that one above...could it be you really are someone from the inside who's been sent here to settle us all before we turn into a lynch mob? You're not Matt Baggott himself are you?? incognitoooo, I like your style mystery person! Or has psni set himself up another account to tell us for fear of appearing because we'll all jump on him as soon as he does! I know I would be :P

I am slowly coming round to believe it is a freeze on future campaigns, now that I've calmed down a bit after the initial rage of hearing it on the news...I really do hope that it is the case, my heart can't take this no more!

Delancey

Poor 'ol psni - everyone assumes he ( assuming he is not a she there ) knows the answer to everything , now I know he is a jolly knowledgeable chap but it's very possible he knows precisely as much as the rest of us know.
I would ask that folks who find links on this story post them here , also if anyone calls recruitment about this can they post the reply they got ? Thanks

p.s. Nothing like a recruitment freeze to get the forum running hot - 35 online , wow !

theinsider1

cesc77 wrote: »

Would it be so hard to say within the statement that ..."as of 2011 we will be imposing a recruitment freeze"?With "immediate effect" sounds extremely ominous.

What is a feckin freeze anyway?

Excuse me if I take your post with a pinch of salt as it seems to be your first one on this forum....

pessimist/sceptic in me...eh,delancy?

Oh,and I wouldnt be surprise if psni took some time off as Im sure he will be inundated with queries

Take my post as you see fit. I thought my information may have been valued by those wishing to join the organisation, and who are being sucked in by the scare mongering being displayed by a minority of members on this forum.

It will all become clear in time; all of your questions will be answered.

You should remember that one of the key elements of being an effective Police Officer is your ability to work well as part of a team. Policing is a highly stressful and pressurised work environment and people who display negative attitudes and whose sole aim is to lower moral should really consider if they are exploring the right career.

kc29

well said insider1. Glad you put your post on. I'll take some hope from it unless i'm told otherwise by the powers that be.

Delancey

Many thanks for your post insider1 - I don't believe anyone intended to disrespect you - folks here are naturally a bit shocked and upset at the news , thanks again.

shampon

"It will all become clear in time; all of your questions will be answered":)

Cool Man.

cesc77

Fair enough..taken onboard

cesc77

thanks for quoting me in your scaremongering statement though....
The top man is to blame.

BelfastJarhead

Thank You Insider! I am just waiting until I get to train in August, your reply has put me at ease!

gigity gigity

Cheers insider. How many people do you think would be recruited then in that space of time?

Just noticed this little line in an article...maybe means something?

"The decisions will be reviewed in the autumn when the police will know details of the budget cuts they are expected to make as part of government cutbacks."


So maybe if they don't know the details of the cuts yet, they haven't actually recieved them yet, therefore this years campaign is safe because like cashflow said it was already budgeted for, so its future campaigns that are affected??

Delancey

It's entirely possible you are correct plugin - however I think we should wait for more news on this - as of now there is just 1 item on UTV. I would like to see what the Telegraph , etc have to say about it tomorrow.

We are in an information vacuum at the moment ( notwithstanding theInsider 1 contribution ) and in a vacuum like this all sorts of crazy theories gain an undeserved credence - anyone who is familiar with the Garda Recruitment forum will know exactly what I'm talking about , in relation to the AGS recruitment freeze I saw the wackiest speculation - talk of adding 2 and 2 and getting 50 !

Shield

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh psni where art thou?? We need your wise words and inside info before we start rioting

kc29 wrote: »

does psni moderator have a comment or are we all goin to be left hanging!

cesc77 wrote: »

Does the moderator, psni have anything which he may have heard to aley fears ,or is it a case of wait on the Dear Johns across the board

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmm...I'm intrigued! Username: theinsider, Join date: today,... Or has psni set himself up another account to tell us...

Hi guys.

I'm here and I know as much as you do. The general consensus in work is a hire freeze is a hire freeze. Anyone can sign up an account and call it 'insiderLOL' to have a little fun with the upset this has caused. I'll leave it up to you who you want to trust and believe.

We're actually being kept in the dark about it, but I do know that there is unease in Garnerville because a lot of people who had become used to a cushy number are being turfed back out on the streets - and rightly so!

You all want the truth, so I'll give it to you: I don't know. I don't know if those currently going through the process will simply have their "Pause" button pressed indefinitely (just like the hundreds who applied to become Gardai in 2008 who are still on "Pause").

My advice to you all is not to call the PSNI over this, because the poor soul on the other end of the phone will not have a clue, and they will be given a standard script to recite, which will just agitate you further.

Final piece of advice is to remember there are people out there who consider this to be a wet dream come true. This news is likely to bring plenty of "Insiders" "in the know" to the forum with cryptic bullsh1t, and cleverly worded "facts" to prey on your desperation just for their kicks.

Be calm people. I'll try and find out as much as I can, as quickly as I can, so just bear with me. I'll be the one who gives reliable updates. For your sanity's sake, consider anything else for now to be untrue unless it comes direcly from me.

Mal85

my heart sank when i saw the news, real smack in the face, specially after going through that ac and handing over my vetting papers

Ill be very keen to see what you find out mr psni

Bifbert

Thanks psni. Hope David Cameron's bullsh!t will turn out untrue. I know it is inevitable that there will be cuts and freezes but please give us one more chance to get in to the job we want. I only want to help people and be proud of myself and country. Give us another big recruitment whoever will be running it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shield

Food for thought boys and girls: It costs around £50,000 just to train one Student Officer and have him/her attest and get working. If this hire freeze is with immediate effect, and there's an average of 50 students in one intake, then the decision not to have an August intake has just saved the organisation £2.5 million.

I've watched you guys posting away here moving from stage to stage - some with very impressive scores.

To those who really want this to be their lives (and yes, even those desperate for any old job) I hope this isn't what it looks like on the surface, and I hope it's just a media translation error. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to have gone through everything only to be told it might have all been in vain.

Like I said above, give me a little break, and I'll do my best for the forum and for you guys who are floating around in limbo.