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You just don't get it. It's not going to be people personally going through your online details it will be spider program that does it to thousands of people at a time.Do you walk down the street with a bag on your face cos there's strangers out there
A name is just a name! A label, so what...my name is in my profile. It's no secret.
Banks already gather as much information on you as they can by searching through what you buy on your credit card. They judge you on everything even if you switched from shopping in tesco to shopping in Lidl they would wonder why? Are you in financial trouble. If you use online poker sites they view you as bad with money. This is just what they can gather from your recent purchases so I'd imagine they would pay for more details about your private life which makes this information valuable so it won't be long before there are companies that's only purpose is to build up profiles of as many people as they can and then sell this information to Banks and other 3rd parties like marketing people.
This is legal since you have voluntarily put this information in the public domain.0 -
I wouldnt put my facebook in my sig. No major fraud issues or anything with it-as Liah said, anything I put online wouldnt be personal enough to incriminate me anyway, or if it was its nothing you couldnt get out of me within ten mins of knowing me if you really wanted to.
I just hate facebook whores who add everybody so their friend count looks high, so I dont see the point on putting a link to it on boards? What are the reasons for it>? If I know you well enough to accept a friend request on facebook, then you will know my name to find me anyway!
Because sometimes it's nice to have some new people to talk to? What's with this fear of internet people? I have a quite a few friends on my facebook that I've never met face to face, but have spent years in contact with, and got chatting to them originally via forums or videogames. And even a few I have met face to face who turned out to be just as genuine and lovely as they seemed in text. As lovely as the many people I know in person by more "conventional" methods.
I'm starting to think I'm really alone on this whole enjoying talking to new people thing. I just find people interesting, so sue me.0 -
Because sometimes it's nice to have some new people to talk to? What's with this fear of internet people? I have a quite a few friends on my facebook that I've never met face to face, but have spent years in contact with, and got chatting to them originally via forums or videogames. And even a few I have met face to face who turned out to be just as genuine and lovely as they seemed in text. As lovely as the many people I know in person by more "conventional" methods.
I'm starting to think I'm really alone on this whole enjoying talking to new people thing. I just find people interesting, so sue me.
No you're missing the point! People are agreeing with the above.. what we're trying to say is having it in your sig for EVERYONE to see, even those you haven't spoken to. Even those that haven't got an account!0 -
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No i'm not what's the point in having it there when most people wouldn't bother with a message. They'd just add you, how are you ment to know what they're like. Why bother? I'm sure if people wanted to get chatting to you they'd use this.
Look I'm not targetting you personally Liah, I just think it is a little careless and facebook/bebo whoreish thats all. Just wanted to get other peoples opinions on it. Which I have done, and fair play for explaining your reasons hun!
Difference is there is a much larger audience here.. I don't know about you but I wouldn't like a bunch of strangers to be able to view conversations I have with my friends or be able to see what I've been doing and where I might be going next etc. And don't make me out to be "scared" of internet people.. that's just ridiculous. I met one of my exes off the internet before and I have plenty of really good mates I met on forums and through world of warcraft. I just like to be careful about it ... that's all.
And if they add me and I decide they're not worth having there because they've no desire to interact then I'll remove them. And there's a bunch of strangers in the street I pass every day who could be doing the very same things for all I know.
Also as I said before, if anything needs to be said privately between people it won't be done on a Facebook wall. So why would I care if the public could see what's up there? It's nothing incriminating, I'm not ashamed of any aspects of my life. Really not liking the attention whore angle. Is it really so hard to believe that I genuinely just like meeting different kinds of people because I find people inherently interesting? Ah, whatever. Brand it what you will, I know what it is to me and it's not that so I don't mind if you think otherwise. Not my fault (or yours!) that you don't know any better!
Believe what you like, though, that's your prerogative, I just perceive things differently, not necessarily correctly, and neither of us are wrong.0 -
And if they add me and I decide they're not worth having there because they've no desire to interact then I'll remove them. And there's a bunch of strangers in the street I pass every day who could be doing the very same things for all I know.
Also as I said before, if anything needs to be said privately between people it won't be done on a Facebook wall. So why would I care if the public could see what's up there? It's nothing incriminating, I'm not ashamed of any aspects of my life. Really not liking the attention whore angle. Is it really so hard to believe that I genuinely just like meeting different kinds of people because I find people inherently interesting? Ah, whatever. Brand it what you will, I know what it is to me and it's not that so I don't mind if you think otherwise. Not my fault (or yours!) that you don't know any better!
Believe what you like, though, that's your prerogative, I just perceive things differently, not necessarily correctly, and neither of us are wrong.
Oh I know! Not trying to say you're wrong.. thought this was a discussion? I'm not ashamed either but I don't like too many people knowing my business online.. which is quite funny because I'm quite an open person in real life, but that's because they're there not hiding behind an avatar.
So I guess that just brought up this thread.. asking why others did it. I mean there are certain risks you have to admit, they've been brought up already so I'll let that die!
Oh no wasn't going for the attention whore angle.. facebook whoring.. as in you're as awesome as the amount of friends you have on facebook kinda thing. :rolleyes:
But yeah to each their own, god that phrase that been done to death!
Just be careful I guess.
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There are certain risks in literally anything from using a tea cosy to an AA12. There are equal, if not far more, chances you will have something negative happen to you in real life as online. I'm an open person in real life, I'm an open person online, as I see them just different methods of the same overall thing-- connecting with other people.
I take things as they come and don't blame the source of connection, just the person themselves if they turn out to be a bad egg.
Either way, I reckon we can agree to disagree at this stage 0 -
ElaElaElano wrote: »The internet has become (rightly or wrongly) the quickest and most easily accessible way of interacting with other people. Since it's there- why not utilise it? I don't see the logic in worrying about strangers knowing your private business on facebook- it's hardly the place for confidentiality. It's a social networking tool; privacy is where phones and e-mails and face to face conversation comes in, surely?
You're not getting my point... as I have said many times in this thread, my main concerns would be info not private conversations.. DOB, full name, address, family names.. pictures of places you visit regularly, people in your pictures ie family and friends, without realising you could be giving away exactly where they live in the background.. info about where you could be saturday night and what time etc. That's my point... :pac:
Oh and if thats the case how come your facebook isn't in your sig? 0 -
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You're not getting my point... as I have said many times in this thread, my main concerns would be info not private conversations.. DOB, full name, address, family names.. pictures of places you visit regularly, people in your pictures ie family and friends, without realising you could be giving away exactly where they live in the background.. info about where you could be saturday night and what time etc. That's my point... :pac:
Oh and if thats the case how come your facebook isn't in your sig?
But that point doesn't stand unless you also take the same equivalent precautions in any public scenario in which you may encounter a stranger in person. Otherwise it just doesn't make sense. You're fine around one massive group of strangers that actually have the possibility of physically getting involved, but you're paranoid (for lack of a better word) about a bunch of people behind monitors and keyboards?
Dunno, for some reason it seems more logical (to me) to be more afraid of real life strangers than online ones. Even if they do steal your identity or bank accounts, it takes a few phone calls to get that sorted, and then you don't have to worry about it again. As for the ones who start online and end up in real life.. well, chances are it was inevitable anyway, but thankfully they're about 0.001% of the internet population.
I think your odds are pretty good that you'll be alright. 0 -
There are certain risks in literally anything from using a tea cosy to an AA12. There are equal, if not far more, chances you will have something negative happen to you in real life as online. I'm an open person in real life, I'm an open person online, as I see them just different methods of the same overall thing-- connecting with other people.
I take things as they come and don't blame the source of connection, just the person themselves if they turn out to be a bad egg.
Either way, I reckon we can agree to disagree at this stage
I know everything has risks.. I'm not an idiot hun. What I'm saying is why put yourself out there intentionally like that when you could be putting yourself/friends/family at risk.
Oh I'm open to my friends online alright but just not to every Tom Dick and Harry I happen to meet online. I dunno maybe it's just the way I reared! There are nutjobs out there.. I just rather not make it easy for them.
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But that point doesn't stand unless you also take the same equivalent precautions in any public scenario in which you may encounter a stranger in person. Otherwise it just doesn't make sense. You're fine around one massive group of strangers that actually have the possibility of physically getting involved, but you're paranoid (for lack of a better word) about a bunch of people behind monitors and keyboards?
Dunno, for some reason it seems more logical (to me) to be more afraid of real life strangers than online ones. Even if they do steal your identity or bank accounts, it takes a few phone calls to get that sorted, and then you don't have to worry about it again. As for the ones who start online and end up in real life.. well, chances are it was inevitable anyway, but thankfully they're about 0.001% of the internet population.
I think your odds are pretty good that you'll be alright.
When I meet a stranger in person I don't start listing my personal details straight away.. come on now! And seriously... you're going to compare those two? I mean really... :rolleyes:
All your info is layed out there already... all it takes is around ten mins of someone being friends with you to figure stuff that could potentially harm you! That's my point.. get it now?0 -
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ElaElaElano wrote: »You make a reasonable point. Personally, I have a pretty blasé attitude towards everything, in real life and online and would never assume that anyone would be bothered collecting personal info to stalk me. In a 'real life' context, I live in a notoriously bad part of Dublin at the moment, I never actively expect to be knifed on my way home. But I have friends who do, and I assume they'd probably take the more cautious approach online, too.
Basically it's a matter of personal choice- there's no right or wrong answer here.
That is exactly right! I was just looking for a few opinions on it thats all. 0 -
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ElaElaElano wrote: »@flojo, just seen your question there (ninja editing, fair play!), now here's the ironic bit. I don't have facebook, just a matter of personal choice. I can see its advantages though and my main point was more about the internet in general than that site specifically.
I suppose it's hypothetical- if I was on facebook, I'd have no problem being added by people I didn't know, because my understanding is that it's a social network, so if the opportunity was to present itself to talk to new people, I'd be happy to do so.
That's lovely for you.. I'm just saying be careful of the info you are handing out to complete strangers. 0 -
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ElaElaElano wrote: »Thanks mammy :pac:
No problem.. now make your mother a nice cuppa, this is thirsty work 0 -
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Bit naive of you but ok! I'm just saying you have the power to control things online.. I choose to be careful.. end of really! It's doesn't mean I don't enjoy myself, because obviously I do.. why else would I be online at 4am? :pac:
I love meeting new people online and in real life. I just like to be careful thats all. I was never one to believe in "it will never happen to me" because anything is pretty much possible.
As said neither of us is wrong we just have a very different way of doing the same thing.
Hah
I'm the last person to be naive after some of the things I've been through. I know how terrible people are. But I can definitely say the good have a massive majority on the bad. I'm not saying they're perfect, but nobody is.. and overall, most people are pretty okay. Most people aren't sociopaths or stalkers or thieves. That's hardly naive, that's just being realistic. Your chances are slim to none of you ever having an experience like identity theft or a stalker via the internet. I'd say it's only a 1:1000 thing, or even a wider gap.
And.. yeah.. I know I have the power to control what I want to online. This is the part you're maybe missing. I control exactly what people know about me. What I provide to the public is my real first name and last name (which could be found out from anywhere anyway, real life or not), and a myriad of instant message contacts, interests (if people want to talk to someone about a mutual interest), my location, my photos. Most people's profiles show these things. I would talk about these things to a stranger if I was out travelling, so why would I not talk about them here? It's not like I'm flaunting my home address and phone number (though really the phone number thing wouldn't bother me). I also control who I decide to add and who I don't, or who I can remove if things go nasty.
I just choose to have a link on boards because there's an awful lot of good people on the website that I'd love to get to know. And I don't see a reason to go around scared of anyone all the time anymore, I spent far too much of my life doing that.
Also.. I'm computer savvy enough to keep safe. I'm not stupid enough to click things I shouldn't or keep one password for all things. I know what I'm doing.0 -
Hah I'm the last person to be naive after some of the things I've been through. I know how terrible people are. But I can definitely say the good have a massive majority on the bad. I'm not saying they're perfect, but nobody is.. and overall, most people are pretty okay. Most people aren't sociopaths or stalkers or thieves. That's hardly naive, that's just being realistic. Your chances are slim to none of you ever having an experience like identity theft or a stalker via the internet. I'd say it's only a 1:1000 thing, or even a wider gap.
And.. yeah.. I know I have the power to control what I want to online. This is the part you're maybe missing. I control exactly what people know about me. What I provide to the public is my real first name and last name (which could be found out from anywhere anyway, real life or not), and a myriad of instant message contacts, interests (if people want to talk to someone about a mutual interest), my location, my photos. Most people's profiles show these things. I would talk about these things to a stranger if I was out travelling, so why would I not talk about them here? It's not like I'm flaunting my home address and phone number (though really the phone number thing wouldn't bother me). I also control who I decide to add and who I don't, or who I can remove if things go nasty.
I just choose to have a link on boards because there's an awful lot of good people on the website that I'd love to get to know. And I don't see a reason to go around scared of anyone all the time anymore, I spent far too much of my life doing that.
You're not the only one hence my cautious behaviour. Basically what it boils down to in the end is me being a private person and you not minding everyone being able to look into your life. Which is fair enough, thats your business.. I just rather not have everyone being able to see into mine.
That's all well and good, I prefer getting to know them through PMs or lengthy discussions first before I open my life up to them.. that's all. I get to know someone a lil bit and then I'd feel a bit better about accepting a friend request or directing them towards my facebook.
I'm by no means scared of people as you even said it's a personal preference. I just like to be careful..cause you just never know. :pac:0
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