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Ireland V England (Nov 2010 @ Aviva Stadium)

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  • #102
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,521 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    i dont let my own personal views cloud my judgement on such issues.

    Read this thread back.

    Are you accusing me of having something against 'criminals'?

    I have to say, it is one of my strange little quirks alright!


  • #103
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    noodler wrote: »
    Read this thread back.

    Are you accusing me of having something against 'criminals'?

    I have to say, it is one of my strange little quirks alright!

    Ah come on you're losing it. Where did i say anything like that???:confused:

    You're not worth arguing with anymore. I've no idea what you are on about now.


  • #104
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,521 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Ah come on you're losing it. Where did i say anything like that???:confused:

    You're not worth arguing with anymore. I've no idea what you are on about now.

    Your agenda is pretty clear - I think you'd better leave it at that alright.


  • #105
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    noodler wrote: »
    Your agenda is pretty clear - I think you'd better leave it at that alright.

    Please tell me what is my agenda? Seriously i'd like to know what you thik it is cos i assure you i dont have one. Its very easy to make psots like you just have without backing it up.


  • #106
    mcwhirter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    This thread was supposed to be about a game not about the scum who might ruin it for the 99% who will have a good time. There are plenty of english living here, married to irish.
    Why ruin it for those people?.
    There will always be a small percentage of scumbags coming from england and also plenty of scumbags here too so it would be upto the police and gardai to work together and prevent it happening.

    I haven't heard much bother from south africa so maybe they can learn from their police system.

    It would be a great day.


  • #107
    DB10
    Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    I feel like i'm going round in circles here. That is my point. There will be no focal point for trouble makers to attach themselves to, is what i'm saying. If a few English fans go looking for trouble i'm sure our local 'heroes' will be happy to oblige. I really wish people would stop making out that there isa huge undercurrent of malcontents who are only waiting to disrupt a football match. get real ffs.

    This isn't a normal football match as we all know. I'm not sure why you are certain there won't be trouble?

    I mean there certainly was a elements of people causing trouble at and outside the game in 1995 that were not English.

    Nobody is waiting but when chances like this arise, you can be sure people will turn up.


  • #108
    DB10
    Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    mcwhirter wrote: »
    I haven't heard much bother from south africa so maybe they can learn from their police system.

    In fairness, no working class person can really afford to fly out to S.Africa, the majority of English fans were either living there or wealthy enough to go out there. And they have restrictions on trouble makers travelling abroad when its on.

    There will be no restrictions on England fans for a friendly like this. And the cost for a trip to Dublin is minimal. They may not get tickets but plenty would go without tickets.


  • #109
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    DB10 wrote: »
    In fairness, no working class person can really afford to fly out to S.Africa, the majority of English fans were either living there or wealthy enough to go out there. And they have restrictions on trouble makers travelling abroad when its on.

    There will be no restrictions on England fans for a friendly like this. And the cost for a trip to Dublin is minimal. They may not get tickets but plenty would go without tickets.

    So are you saying that it's only working class English supporters that cause trouble?? Disgraceful thing to say imo. Many of the studies of English hooliganism have foccussed on the fact that many of those involved were professionals and fitted traditional middle calss stereotypes.

    I do agree however that a short cheap trip to Dublin may be too tempting to a=some just looking for a fight


  • #110
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,964 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    baz2009 wrote: »
    There are more scumbags in Ireland now than there was in 1995

    Really? Where did you get that statistic from?


  • #111
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Really? Where did you get that statistic from?
    Well, those scumbags have since had little scumbags so it makes sense really :)


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  • #112
    mcwhirter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    DB10 wrote: »
    In fairness, no working class person can really afford to fly out to S.Africa, the majority of English fans were either living there or wealthy enough to go out there. And they have restrictions on trouble makers travelling abroad when its on.

    There will be no restrictions on England fans for a friendly like this. And the cost for a trip to Dublin is minimal. They may not get tickets but plenty would go without tickets.

    Its not just working class people who are racist.


  • #113
    Livvie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Livvie


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Who do you mean? Anyway there surely wont be any tickets on general sale. The block bookers will take wahtever allocation they are given, mind you, there are a few morons among that crew as well

    I meant the kind of dregs who pretend to be football supporters but who either just want a fight, or to smash up a stadium.

    The kind of people scum who give the majority a bad name, and who embarrass us.


  • #114
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,521 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Really? Where did you get that statistic from?

    www.cso.ie/statistics/ethnicgroups/scumbags


  • #115
    DB10
    Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    So are you saying that it's only working class English supporters that cause trouble?? Disgraceful thing to say imo. Many of the studies of English hooliganism have foccussed on the fact that many of those involved were professionals and fitted traditional middle calss stereotypes.

    That is rubbish, the police in both countries both stated that the demographic of England fan in SA was far different to any other tournament due to the massive cost in going.

    These fans are not hooligans. And yes, in general really wealthy supporters are not they type to cause mass trouble. Nothing disgraceful about that, you are a drama queen.

    I don't know what studies you're looking in but you don't need to study in depth to know that.


  • #116
    DB10
    Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    mcwhirter wrote: »
    Its not just working class people who are racist.

    I'm not quite sure where racism comes into my post or indeed this thread...

    But throw it in anyway, most over used word I have ever seen....:rolleyes:


  • #117
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Nice video on the 1995 game:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcdnzeoBJT4


  • #118
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    DB10 wrote: »
    That is rubbish, the police in both countries both stated that the demographic of England fan in SA was far different to any other tournament due to the massive cost in going.

    These fans are not hooligans. And yes, in general really wealthy supporters are not they type to cause mass trouble. Nothing disgraceful about that, you are a drama queen.

    I don't know what studies you're looking in but you don't need to study in depth to know that.
    I never said really wealthy supporters cause trouble. And it was you who mentioned working clas fans not being able to afford to go and i still consider that a disgarceful generalisation.


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