Serie A Superthread 2011/2012

dor83

Half-time scores:

Roma 1-0 Chievo(Full-time)
Bari 0-0 Sampdoria
Bologna 0-0 Cesena
Cagliari 0-1 Fiorentina
Genoa 2-2 Lecce
Inter 1-1 Lazio
Palermo 2-1 Napoli
Udinese 0-1 Parma

dor83

2-1 Inter, Eto'o with the goal was a bit lucky because the defender slipped.

dor83

Mauri off for Lazio for a kick out at Nagatomo, Lazio were putting Inter under pressure so it could cost them.

dor83

Full-time scores:

AS Roma 1-0 Chievo
Bari 0-1 Sampdoria
Bologna 0-2 Cesena
Cagliari 1-2 Fiorentina
Genoa 4-2 Lecce
Inter 2-1 Lazio
Palermo 2-1 Napoli
Udinese 0-2 Parma

Inter go back 2nd and looked better, Roma now have a real chance of getting a top 4 finish and both Samp and Cesena got important wins in their fight against relegation.

dor83

Line ups for Brescia v Milan are:
Brescia: Arcari; Zambelli, Zebina, Bega; Berardi, Vass, Zanetti, Hetemaj; Diamanti; Eder, Carracciolo

Milan: Abbiati; Abate, Thiago Silva, Yepes, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Van Bommel, Seedorf; Boateng; Cassano, Robinho

I reckon Brescia can get something from the game, Milan shouldn't have any trouble beating them but without Ibra and Pato I think it'll be hard work for because I don't think Cassano and Roninho are a great partnership. Milan can afford to drop points anyway, Inter and Napoli are too far back with too liitle time left to trouble them.

Headshot

I presume Seedorf will be in an attacking role?

dor83

Headshot wrote: »

I presume Seedorf will be in an attacking role?

Boateng will sit behind the front 2 and Seedorf will be in the midfield 3, he'll have a lot of freedom to go forward though with Van Bommel and Gattuso there to cover when he gets forward.

Seaneh

About flippin' time...

dor83

Robinho has just put Milan 1-0 up after a very good counter from Milan. Brescia have been good and could have scored themselves, Hit the bar a few mins ago.

Raskolnikov

Crazy game, Milan definitely out of jail there.

Raskolnikov

Catania fielding 10 Argentinians

Motta nearly sent off after 30 seconds

Pinturicchio

Del Piero can never be allowed to retire!

Pinturicchio

What a fcking shambles.

Raskolnikov

You must feel sick - but that goal was coming.

Pinturicchio

Juve were completely incapable of seeing out the game even though it should have been wrapped up before half time. Krasic was useless in the whole game. He messed up both of our best chances in the second half, and was at fault for the first of the two free kicks at the end by giving away the ball when he didn't have to. Felipe Melo also shouldn't have hand-balled in the wall. It shouldn't have come down to a last minute free kick though when we were so comfortable at half time.

dizzywizlw

Playing 2 Second Strikers, or at the very least two players of almost identical attributes up front in a 4-4-2 was the first mistake. Well hiring Delneri was the first mistake but you get my point.


Juve have no balls, it's been that way since Pavel left. I don't think I've ever seen such useless wide play. We play narrow, we suck, we try to play wide we fail. We starting playing reasonably well in the 4-3-3 4-5-1 system and the coach goes and changes the system...

Typical BS from our mid table club.

Pinturicchio

dizzywizlw wrote: »

Playing 2 Second Strikers, or at the very least two players of almost identical attributes up front in a 4-4-2 was the first mistake. Well hiring Delneri was the first mistake but you get my point.


Juve have no balls, it's been that way since Pavel left. I don't think I've ever seen such useless wide play. We play narrow, we suck, we try to play wide we fail. We starting playing reasonably well in the 4-3-3 4-5-1 system and the coach goes and changes the system...

Typical BS from our mid table club.

That part was because Del Piero was back and it was justified by him scoring the two goals.

dor83

This weekends fixtures:

SATURDAY, APRIL 30, 2011
17:00 Cesena v Inter(Live on ESPN)
19:45 Napoli v Genoa(Live on ESPN & Setanta)
SUNDAY, MAY 1, 2011
14:00 Milan v Bologna(Live on Espn)
14:00 Catania v Cagliari
14:00 Chievo v Lecce
14:00 Fiorentina v Udinese
14:00 Parma v Palermo
14:00 Sampdoria v Brescia
19:45 Bari v AS Roma(Live on ESPN)
MONDAY, MAY 2, 2011
19:45 Lazio v Juventus(Live on ESPN & Setanta)

Milan can win the scudetto on Sunday and Napoli can go back 2nd if Inter fail to beat Cesena so this should be a good game, hopefully Inter win and Bologna can get a result so Milan have to wait another week or 2. Lazio v Juve should be a good game, Lazio need a win to stay in 4th spot but if they lose Juve might just have an outside chance of getting 4th themselves, and Samp v Brescia is a very big game at the bottom, a win for Samp would go a long way to helping them avoid relegation and make it very difficult for Brescia to stay up.

dor83

Line-ups for Cesena v Inter:
Cesena: 1 Antonioli; 46 Santon, 25 Von Bergen, 3 Pellegrino, 6 Lauro; 24 Sammarco, 8 Caserta, 18 Parolo; 23 Giaccherini, 10 Jimenez; 11 Budan.
Bench: 33 Calderoni, 15 Benalouane, 17 Malonga, 19 Gorobsov, 44 Piangerelli, 70 Bogdani, 77 Ceccarelli.

Inter: 12 Castellazzi; 13 Maicon, 6 Lucio, 15 Ranocchia, 55 Nagatomo; 4 Zanetti, 19 Cambiasso; 27 Pandev, 8 Thiago Motta, 9 Eto'o; 22 Milito.
Bench: 21 Orlandoni, 7 Pazzini, 14 Kharja, 17 Mariga, 20 Obi, 23 Materazzi, 26 Chivu.

I'm not sure about that line-up, I'd prefer if Kharja was starting instead of Motta and I'd also like to see Coutinho on the bench.

dor83

Budan puts Cesena ahead with a very good finish, although he was left in a lot of space in the Inter box.

dor83

Get in, Pazzini just scored 2 goals in stoppage time to make it 2-1 Inter, undeserved but a win for Inter.

jamsieboy86

dor83 wrote: »

Get in, Pazzini just scored 2 goals in stoppage time to make it 2-1 Inter, undeserved but a win for Inter.

Loving it. Milan have to put away that champagne for another week at least.

dor83

jamsieboy86 wrote: »

Loving it. Milan have to put away that champagne for another week at least.

Yeah and Bologna have a decent chance of getting something tomorrow imo and Milan have to go to Roma next week too so they could have to wait until the last day. 2 good goals from Pazzini by the way, the first was an excellent finish.

Raskolnikov

You have to love the end of the season for Italian football, you get superb opportunies to win some money for nothing. Tomorrow's fixed match is Catania v. Cagliari, Catania are available at 4/11. Shouldn't be surprised that Catania are involved in a fixed match considering it's a mafia capital.

dor83

Line-ups for Milan v Bologna:
Milan: Abbiati, Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Flamini, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Boateng, Robinho, Cassano

Bologna: Viviano, Moras, Portanova, Britos, Cherubin, Mutarelli, Mudingayi, Meggiorini, Ekdal, Rubin, Di Vaio

I think Bologna can get something from this game, I'm not convinced by Robinho and Cassano as a front two and think they might struggle to score.

dor83

Half time scores:

Milan 1-0 Bologna
Catania 0-0 Cagliari
Chievo 0-0 Lecce
Fiorentina 2-1 Udinese
Parma 2-0 Palermo
Sampdoria 0-0 Brescia

dor83

Full time scores:

Milan 1-0 Bologna
Catania 2-0 Cagliari
Chievo 1-0 Lecce
Fiorentina 5-2 Udinese
Parma 3-1 Palermo
Sampdoria 3-3 Brescia

Pinturicchio

The relegation battle is going to be spectacular for the last few games!

dor83

Pinturicchio wrote: »

The relegation battle is going to be spectacular for the last few games!

Yeah, unfortunately I think Samps late goal will make it very difficult for Brescia but Samp, Lecce and Cesena should keep it interesting, although Lecce have very difficult fixtures against Napoli and Lazio to come. I expect the bottom 3 to stay as it is, but there will be some good games like the Cesena v Brescia game in a couple of weeks.

Pinturicchio

It basically comes down to Samp and Lecce really.

Genoa vs Sampdoria
Sampdoria vs Palermo
Roma vs Sampdoria

Lecce vs Napoli
Bari vs Lecce
Lecce vs Lazio

Raskolnikov

Raskolnikov wrote: »

You have to love the end of the season for Italian football, you get superb opportunies to win some money for nothing. Tomorrow's fixed match is Catania v. Cagliari, Catania are available at 4/11. Shouldn't be surprised that Catania are involved in a fixed match considering it's a mafia capital.

Surprise surprise, Catania won. A few of the bookies even stopped taking bets on this.

Seaneh

Nobody told the Cagliari players that the match was fixed.
Cossu and Astori fought like animals to claw back a goal and Catania needed a fantastic finish by Maxi Lopez to put them ahead AND had a man sent off.

dizzywizlw

Another generally poor performance by Juve, but they got three points in the end

4 Points in it, one of the worst Juve teams of recent years, an average manager, it probably won't happen but if it does, it would be immense. A fight until the end mentality is appearing, I like that, it's very un-Italian.

AIR-AUSSIE

dizzywizlw wrote: »

Another generally poor performance by Juve, but they got three points in the end

4 Points in it, one of the worst Juve teams of recent years, an average manager, it probably won't happen but if it does, it would be immense. A fight until the end mentality is appearing, I like that, it's very un-Italian.

I thought I saw a bit of Juve of old last night, didn't play at all well but still got the win.

Melo had some crazy tackles in that game.

Krasic just seems to want one touch too many every time he has the ball, very frustrating.

Pinturicchio

I'm actually starting to see some potential in this team.

I still don't think we'll make the CL this season though.

dizzywizlw

Pinturicchio wrote: »

I'm actually starting to see some potential in this team.

I still don't think we'll make the CL this season though.

Where there's Brazzo there's hope.

Pinturicchio

dizzywizlw wrote: »

Where there's Brazzo there's hope.

You gotta love him. He can go months without playing but when he does he usually makes an impact. He popped up with a couple of goals last season when we really needed them. He can play anywhere too.

Mr. Presentable

Pinturicchio wrote: »

You gotta love him. He can go months without playing but when he does he usually makes an impact. He popped up with a couple of goals last season when we really needed them. He can play anywhere too.

I wish he'd go and play in Germany

Pinturicchio

He'll either retire or head back to Germany/Bosnia at the end of this season.

dor83

Line ups for Roma v Milan:

Roma: Doni; Cassetti, Burdisso, Juan, Riise; Pizarro, Brighi; Taddei, Simplicio, Vucinic; Totti.

Milan: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Van Bommel, Seedorf; Boateng; Robinho, Ibrahimovic

Kick off in about 25 mins and Milan only need a point tonight to secure the scudetto but Roma battling for 4th with Udinese, Lazio and Juve need a win or it will be very difficult if Lazio or Udinese get a win. Should be a good game, I'm expecting a draw myself, going to go with 2-2.

dizzywizlw

With that, the black and blue curse has been lifted.

dor83

Well done Milan, well deserved as they were the best team in Serie A this season, had a feeling it was going to be their season from the moment Ibra joined them.

Raskolnikov

My thoughts.

Serie A has turned out a bit like the Premiership. Like United soon to be, Milan were able to win without really being too impressive. Still, whatever you say about Ibrahimovic, at Serie A level, he just seems to be a goal machine and was a huge part in getting Milan the title. Best players for Milan this season have been Thiago Silva and Nesta; I cannot think of a centre back pairing that have been as good as these guys this season in any league. Biggest disappointment of the season has to be Juventus. I thought with the likes of Krasic and Aquilani playing for them, they would make the push to Europe. Unfortunately, it looks like the problems run much deeper there, the likes of Melo and Marchisio are just so far off the level where they need to be. Without a doubt though, Napoli have to be the team of the season and Cavani the player of the season. Great to see a team who can not only play, but have bottle and guts.

Next season could be the most competitive season we ever have in Serie A. Milan, Inter, Roma, Lazio, Napoli, Juventus will all feel they like they're in with a shout; even the likes of Udinese, Fiorentina and Genoa could have a chance if they're shrewd in the transfer market.

dizzywizlw

Felipe Melo has regularly been outstanding this season and his rapport with Aquilani is top quality, Marchisio is turning out a bit like Carrick I will admit.

We have no fullbacks discounting the boy Sorenson, who is average. Krasic has been a one trick pony (beat man for pace) Pepe and Martinez are utter crap although Pepe has his moments. No line leading strikers, three excellent Second Strikers in Quag,Matri and DelPiero but nobody for them to play off.

4 positions without quality players, we never were going to challenge for anything.

Had we players like Elia,Beck,Clichy and Doyle (hold up merchant that actually moves about when needed) we could have achieved what we should achieve.

Pinturicchio

dizzywizlw wrote: »

Felipe Melo has regularly been outstanding this season and his rapport with Aquilani is top quality, Marchisio is turning out a bit like Carrick I will admit.

We have no fullbacks discounting the boy Sorenson, who is average. Krasic has been a one trick pony (beat man for pace) Pepe and Martinez are utter crap although Pepe has his moments. No line leading strikers, three excellent Second Strikers in Quag,Matri and DelPiero but nobody for them to play off.

4 positions without quality players, we never were going to challenge for anything.

Had we players like Elia,Beck,Clichy and Doyle (hold up merchant that actually moves about when needed) we could have achieved what we should achieve.

I agree, criticising Felipe Melo for his performances this season is strange.

Sorensen is way above average for someone who just turned 19 and has been playing out of position!

Doyle? What?

dizzywizlw

Pinturicchio wrote: »

I agree, criticising Felipe Melo for his performances this season is strange.

Sorensen is way above average for someone who just turned 19 and has been playing out of position!

Doyle? What?

If we're playing 4-4-2 a Doyle type player is what we need, not Doyle, a Doyle type. I can't think of any players that are like him that aren't €€€. Dzeko would have been perfect

Player like Rossi and Aguero are similar to what we have atm, We'll probably have to settle for Boriello

Raskolnikov

Pinturicchio wrote: »

I agree, criticising Felipe Melo for his performances this season is strange.

For a player who plays in a relatively deep lying role, he gives the ball away far too much. Don't think he has the consistency either.

The Floyd p

Congrats to Milan, well deserved and hopefully they'll be better in europe next season.

Here's hoping Napoli can snatch second.

population

A fully deserved Scudetto. They have been top of the table all season and dispatched their closest rivals with ease on the big match occasions. Happy for Allegri as he has brought a fresher approach to the is Milan side. Hope that Napoli can finish strongly enough to gain 2nd, but 3rd would be no small accomplishment. Again though well done Milan

dor83

Line ups for Udinese v Lazio:
Udinese: 1 Handanovic; 17 Benatia, 2 Zapata, 45 Angella; 3 Isla, 19 Badu, 66 Pinzi, 20 Asamoah, 27 Armero; 7 Sanchez, 10 Di Natale

Lazio: 86 Muslera; 2 Lichtsteiner, 20 Biava, 3 Dias, 14 Garrido; 32 Brocchi, 11 Matuzalem; 15 Gonzalez, 8 Hernanes, 22 Floccari; 10 Zarate

And Inter v Fiorentina:
Inter: 1 Julio Cesar; 13 Maicon, 15 Ranocchia, 23 Materazzi, 26 Chivu; 4 Zanetti, 19 Cambiasso, 14 Kharja; 29 Coutinho; 7 Pazzini, 9 Eto'o.

Fiorentina: 84 Boruc; 29 De Silvestri, 5 Gamberini, 14 Natali, 23 Pasqual; 85 Behrami, 21 D'Agostino, 18 Montolivo; 24 Cerci, 11 Gilardino, 6 Vargas.