Recruitment Freeze - The Official Word

Shield

chontour wrote: »

P.S.N.I. mentions that people who have got half way through their vetting/medical will start from that point once the freeze is lifted... what does that mean for those of us who have passed a/c but not yet received vetting?

psni wrote: »

For those of you who are half way there with medicals and vetting, you will simply be put into a large cryogenic enclosure, and there you will stay until the freeze is lifted. When it is lifted, you will proceed from the point you were at before the freeze. You will not have to IST and AC again, unless you failed.

In bold...

Cashflow

psni wrote: »

I feel it only fair and just to correct my most learned and respected colleague:

Absolutely No chance.

Ah yes, the devil is in the details after all.

Delancey

chontour wrote: »

damn if only i had of scored high enough to get my vetting early i would still have the slimmest of chances.

cheer uo Chontour - personally I don't attach any significance to the speed you get vetting forms at - even if you had the top score at the AC you still would not be called for August.

Delancey

slunk2 wrote: »

Rite .... I sent my vetting forms off appx 5 weeks ago havent heard anything back although I know it takes ages.. should I be worried that the recruitment freeze will effect me?

What on earth makes you think it would not effect you ?

lauralush04

Guess its just a big waiting game from now on Got my pass letter for AC on Saturday. Didnt expect to get that far so regardless of the freeze im still pretty happy that I still am in with a chance Lets just hope its not for too long tho....

slunk2

delancey42 wrote: »

What on earth makes you think it would not effect you ?

Maybe because the news and deloitte never really went into much detail .... also we have had no letters or fonecalls or even an email to say any different from psni ... its called optimism!!

cm3luc

thanks psni for your help and opinions.....

hereshoping

well this is all really disappointing. but nothing we can do about it We may just move on with our lives and pursue any other opportunities we get..... looks like me checking into hotel garnerville is a very distant dream!

Delancey

slunk2 wrote: »

Maybe because the news and deloitte never really went into much detail .... also we have had no letters or fonecalls or even an email to say any different from psni ... its called optimism!!

We are all awaiting a letter or some communication about this freeze unfortunately and how it will impact us. Your thinking is very human and understandable - I have little doubt that in due couse we will see posts here suggesting that because Matt Baggott was smiling on TV that must mean the freeze is about to be lifted :rolleyes:

chontour

delancey42 wrote: »

We are all awaiting a letter or some communication about this freeze unfortunately and how it will impact us. Your thinking is very human and understandable - I have little doubt that in due couse we will see posts here suggesting that because Matt Baggott was smiling on TV that must mean the freeze is about to be lifted :rolleyes:

lol you sound like your some other creature...an alien maybe?

BTW i reckon the freeze is nearly over...seen Matt Baggott smiling on TV!

wee joke.

ljm10

Apologies if I have missed this information throughout the thread..but I have received the letter stating assessment centre days are going ahead as planned and my assessment centre day is this week.

If I was to score high enough as to get to the next stage of the recruitment process (vetting/medical or whatever it may be)..when the freeze is lifted will the process continue from where it left off for me i.e. allowing me to proceed to the next stage of the process, similar to others above who have already completed medicals/vetting or will I be more or less be out? thanks

Delancey

Your AC score will count and your application would be on hold but you would not have to re-apply or re-sit the IST or AC ( assuming you pass the AC that is ). Otherwise its unlikely you will see any movement

ljm10

Excellent - thats all I wanted to know, thank you. All that is needed now is to get a very high score in the AC unlikely! thanks again.

VES86

i think if we see mr baggot smiling on tv its because his ploy worked

*asked for armed civies - knowing it will be vetoed

* knows there isnt a budget to employ more police

*leaving one option, an option that certain members of the policing bored would definately not want, and a presence on the streets that the majority of people would not want...

*so theres a choice, armed civies or troops to the board and troops or bigger budget to mr cameron


i'll have a guess that if this is the thinking (which if we all think about it isnt to difficult to believe) the police gaurding mlas and other important people will be put on the streets and the armed civies (ex-military and police) will take their place....but then again i cant see some mlas liking the idea of ex military gaurding them


just an inside scoop ive heard...HMMMMMM

Delancey

I did find it interesting that the freeze was announced the same day the Policing Board vetoed the armed civvies plan.....mind you I think it's pure speculation , don't care why its frozen - I just want to know when it's ending.........

VES86

delancey42 wrote: »

I did find it interesting that the freeze was announced the same day the Policing Board vetoed the armed civvies plan.....mind you I think it's pure speculation , don't care why its frozen - I just want to know when it's ending.........

preferably when all our knees are still in full working order! hahaha

Jay_Man

At least we will still find out our Merit placing and get our feedback come September. Most up us including myself will know then if we are out of the race or if its worth hanging onto hope until freeze is over..

I'm assuming the 50/50 will stil be in place for the Current campaign when the freeze is over. Correct???

T.Lexie

Hi guys, this is my first post and hope yous can help.

I was in the 2007 campaign and finally got word in March 2010 about a training place - I got offered a place in the August 2010 intake, but I have a big holiday booked for October 2010 so got my training deferred to the December 2010 intake.

Can anyone advise if I will still be in the December intake or what happens now?

Thanks,

Delancey

T.Lexie wrote: »

Hi guys, this is my first post and hope yous can help.

I was in the 2007 campaign and finally got word in March 2010 about a training place - I got offered a place in the August 2010 intake, but I have a big holiday booked for October 2010 so got my training deferred to the December 2010 intake.

Can anyone advise if I will still be in the December intake or what happens now?

Thanks,

You're gonna hate me for saying this but at the moment the August intake is the last scheduled one for the foreseeable future - I would advise you to try and get back on the August intake and screw the holiday - there will NO December intake.

Shield

Your question is answered in detail here.

T.Lexie wrote: »

Hi guys, this is my first post and hope yous can help.

I was in the 2007 campaign and finally got word in March 2010 about a training place - I got offered a place in the August 2010 intake, but I have a big holiday booked for October 2010 so got my training deferred to the December 2010 intake.

Can anyone advise if I will still be in the December intake or what happens now?

Thanks,

T.Lexie

delancey42 wrote: »

You're gonna hate me for saying this but at the moment the August intake is the last scheduled one for the foreseeable future - I would advise you to try and get back on the August intake and screw the holiday - there will NO December intake.

Oh no, after waiting to hear from them since 2007 I had finally sighed a sigh of relief that December was the time for me! Just typical!!:mad:

T.Lexie

T.Lexie wrote: »

Oh no, after waiting to hear from them since 2007 I had finally sighed a sigh of relief that December was the time for me! Just typical!!:mad:

Seriously mate, screw the holiday. Get on the phone like there's no tomorrow and try to get back in for the Aug intake, as psni said there's still places left so you might still have a chance.
If this is what you really do want, take the loss of a holilday and any monies already paid on the chin. Your family or whoever should understand...you can re-book a holiday anytime, you can't re-book a place in the PSNI. Who knows when the next chance will be. You will seriously regret it if you don't!

Or I'll take your place for you

Azaka

psni wrote: »

Your question is answered in detail here.

Hi PSNI, sorry if this question appears to be repetitive/just plain daft, but.....

In your link you reference;
'There are still places on the August intake to be filled, so keep everything you have crossed that you get "the call", because if you don't, then that's you done'

So are they still making calls to people for the first time, albeit to fill up the small amount of places left?

I suppose I might be grasping at straws but I'm just wondering if there's still a microscopic chance I could hear something before the door to the cryo chamber slams completely shut.

Okay, so one other question occurs... do you think any sort of letter explaining what happens next will be sent to applicants?

Shield

Azaka wrote: »

In your link you reference;
'There are still places on the August intake to be filled, so keep everything you have crossed that you get "the call", because if you don't, then that's you done'

So are they still making calls to people for the first time, albeit to fill up the small amount of places left?

At time of writing they were. Read this post. That was written last Friday and we're now at the end of Tuesday. They might get notice of a withdrawal or two, and then there'd be those places to fill, but you're talking about trying to find the last of the Golden Tickets at this stage.

Azaka wrote: »

Okay, so one other question occurs... do you think any sort of letter explaining what happens next will be sent to applicants?

Yes. You'll all get letters telling you more or less what this forum told you on Friday. It would rock if it was the exact same wording.

Vince Coupon

psni wrote: »

Yes. You'll all get letters telling you more or less what this forum told you on Friday. It would rock if it was the exact same wording.

Do you think that will go out to everyone who is missing out or to those who are getting in as well. I know PSNI has given word already but there will be plenty on the aug intake that are not on here which are prob wondering what's going on

Delancey

Yo guys , check out DCC Gillespies Blog - it's about the '' Financial pressures '' facing the P.S.N.I. - a bit bland if the truth be told - makes no reference whatsoever about Recruitment Freeze.

stillhopful

Hey guys

Hopefully someone will be able to clarify this for me as I'm uber confused!

Sat my AST at the start of June and received my vetting papers about 4 days later and then a pass letter confirming I'd passed AST a week or so later, then a couple of days after that my medical date.

My medical date is in a couple of weeks, but with this whole freeze I'm not really sure where I'm at? If I pass it, do I then go in the freeze - if so when it ends do I then just pick up from there with the same merit pool number (how do I find that out by the way? )

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Vince Coupon

stillhopful wrote: »

Hey guys

Hopefully someone will be able to clarify this for me as I'm uber confused!

Sat my AST at the start of June and received my vetting papers about 4 days later and then a pass letter confirming I'd passed AST a week or so later, then a couple of days after that my medical date.

My medical date is in a couple of weeks, but with this whole freeze I'm not really sure where I'm at? If I pass it, do I then go in the freeze - if so when it ends do I then just pick up from there with the same merit pool number (how do I find that out by the way? )

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

PSNI is the man with the answers and his posts on this forum and in particular in this thread would make me believe that the freeze means that they will pick up where they left off.

Adolphus

Yes, from what has been posted it would seem that if you pass you will go into the big freeze, unfortunately.

Also, the merit list used to be available a number of weeks after the last AC was conducted and you had to ring recruitment to get it, but this year who knows how it will work.

Vince Coupon

Adolphus wrote: »

Yes, from what has been posted it would seem that if you pass you will go into the big freeze, unfortunately.

Similarly, if for any reason the Aug intake doesn't happen then I'd hope those that are due to start will be on the first intake once the thaw occurs (tho they'd prob need vetted all over again if the freeze lasts over a year).

Adolphus

Don't even mention any possibility of the August intake being delayed! Positive thoughts only allowed! I think we should all go up there now and see if they will let us in.....

cesc77

I have received a letter from Deloitte saying:
"Because of the current uncertainty about the PSNIs budgets,offers of recruitment are being suspended.However we have been advised by the PSNI that until the position is clearer,the intention is to progress the current campaign as planned."
They also advise returning forms promptly and to attend for medical as and when requested.
So,are we to take from this that its all go again and that the C16 campaign is not frozen midflow.I gather from this that the freeze doesnt kick in til everyone has completed vetting and medicals.

princess deity

Happy Days a wee bit of comfort at last, well at least for those that are lucky enough to be vetted etc if they score high enough. thanks for that Cesc.

cesc77 wrote: »

I have received a letter from Deloitte saying:
"Because of the current uncertainty about the PSNIs budgets,offers of recruitment are being suspended.However we have been advised by the PSNI that until the position is clearer,the intention is to progress the current campaign as planned."
They also advise returning forms promptly and to attend for medical as and when requested.
So,are we to take from this that its all go again and that the C16 campaign is not frozen midflow.I gather from this that the freeze doesnt kick in til everyone has completed vetting and medicals.

cm3luc

T.Lexie wrote: »

Hi guys, this is my first post and hope yous can help.

I was in the 2007 campaign and finally got word in March 2010 about a training place - I got offered a place in the August 2010 intake, but I have a big holiday booked for October 2010 so got my training deferred to the December 2010 intake.

Can anyone advise if I will still be in the December intake or what happens now?

Thanks,

What i wouldnt give to be in the dilemma!!!

Vince Coupon

cesc77 wrote: »

I have received a letter from Deloitte saying:
"Because of the current uncertainty about the PSNIs budgets,offers of recruitment are being suspended.However we have been advised by the PSNI that until the position is clearer,the intention is to progress the current campaign as planned."
They also advise returning forms promptly and to attend for medical as and when requested.
So,are we to take from this that its all go again and that the C16 campaign is not frozen midflow. I gather from this that the freeze doesnt kick in til everyone has completed vetting and medicals.

I would take from that that they are ensuring people don't jeopardise their chances by procrastinating as nobody knows when the calls may come or when the freeze will end. They're just urging common sense and for people to do all they can so they're in a better position once things eventually become clear.

princess deity

I would firmly believe that they are going to continue vetting so that when the freeze is lifted its going to be full steam ahead with suitable applicants and offers will be made.

Delancey

Vince Coupon wrote: »

I would take from that that they are ensuring people don't jeopardise their chances by procrastinating as nobody knows when the calls may come or when the freeze will end. They're just urging common sense and for people to do all they can so they're in a better position once things eventually become clear.

+ 1 . I would be reluctant to conclude that they will proceed to vetting and medicals as if nothing has happened . As vince said - commmon sense advice when the position is unclear.

Vince Coupon

delancey42 wrote: »

+ 1 . I would be reluctant to conclude that they will proceed to vetting and medicals as if nothing has happened . As vince said - commmon sense advice when the position is unclear.

Yah. Deloitte don't have anything concrete to say (which isn't their fault) but they want to give SOME advice so it makes sense to urge people to attend etc rather than say, 'we don't know what's going on so just throw your papers in the bin and cry yourself to sleep'.

On a separate note, my girlfriend isn't going to her AC now this week. Don't think it's a decision based solely on the freeze tho.

Delancey

princess deity wrote: »

I would firmly believe that they are going to continue vetting so that when the freeze is lifted its going to be full steam ahead with suitable applicants and offers will be made.

That would be very encouraging and while it could be argued that it makes sense to vet people so they are ready to roll when the freeze is lifted it must be remembered that vetting clearances expire.....not much point in vetting if it has to be redone .

beca

delancey42 wrote: »

That would be very encouraging and while it could be argued that it makes sense to vet people so they are ready to roll when the freeze is lifted it must be remembered that vetting clearances expire.....not much point in vetting if it has to be redone .

similar story with medical - Dr.Psni apparently cost around £200 a medical so if they have budget cuts, they cant justify sending people to medicals that may expire anyway, but that means Dr.Psni may well be left sitting in his office twiddling his thumbs?

cesc77

cesc77 wrote: »

I have received a letter from Deloitte saying:
"Because of the current uncertainty about the PSNIs budgets,offers of recruitment are being suspended.However we have been advised by the PSNI that until the position is clearer,the intention is to progress the current campaign as planned."
They also advise returning forms promptly and to attend for medical as and when requested.
So,are we to take from this that its all go again and that the C16 campaign is not frozen midflow.I gather from this that the freeze doesnt kick in til everyone has completed vetting and medicals.

Hmm I think I'll remain a bit sceptical of that. Given that that is from Deloitte and not PSNI directly, I would take from it that their part in the campaign will continue as planned, seeing as I'd imagine they'd have a contract with the PSNI that would mean regardless of freezes or anything they would have to be paid up in full anyway for their services, so might as well get the moneys worth out of them. Maybe I'm being a bit pessimistic, I just won't allow myself to get my hopes up about this for fear of them getting smacked well and truely to the ground again.

However, if vetting forms do start to appear again (I can't see it happening though) then I'll be a bit more optimistic.

I want a letter now I take it nobody else has recieved this??

beca

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmm I think I'll remain a bit sceptical of that. Given that that is from Deloitte and not PSNI directly, I would take from it that their part in the campaign will continue as planned, seeing as I'd imagine they'd have a contract with the PSNI that would mean regardless of freezes or anything they would have to be paid up in full anyway for their services, so might as well get the moneys worth out of them. Maybe I'm being a bit pessimistic, I just won't allow myself to get my hopes up about this for fear of them getting smacked well and truely to the ground again.

However, if vetting forms do start to appear again (I can't see it happening though) then I'll be a bit more optimistic.

I want a letter now I take it nobody else has recieved this??

i did

Vince Coupon

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmm I think I'll remain a bit sceptical of that. Given that that is from Deloitte and not PSNI directly, I would take from it that their part in the campaign will continue as planned, seeing as I'd imagine they'd have a contract with the PSNI that would mean regardless of freezes or anything they would have to be paid up in full anyway for their services, so might as well get the moneys worth out of them. Maybe I'm being a bit pessimistic, I just won't allow myself to get my hopes up about this for fear of them getting smacked well and truely to the ground again.

However, if vetting forms do start to appear again (I can't see it happening though) then I'll be a bit more optimistic.

I want a letter now I take it nobody else has recieved this??

I applied to get in on C16 and I received this letter today

beca

beca wrote: »

i did

Vince Coupon wrote:

I applied to get in on C16 and I received this letter today

Ach screw my post man, he just brought me car tax :mad:

cesc77

Beca,I think I remember psni saying something about the medicals.I think he said they dont expire and that it would be your responsibility to inform them if your health circumstances changed.

Why oh why is nothing clear cut with this process.How many other professions out there put applicants through this palava?

Hope I havent got hopes up unnecessarily,but Ill take the view of the others....eyes narrow and the sceptical brain ticks over.....that we're none the wiser til someone who has sat an AC recently gets forms through.

Delancey

I would be very interested to hear if anyone has received vetting or medical forms since the freeze was announced.

What was the average time people were receiving vetting in? Within about 2 weeks generally most people had them was it?
Well I'm about a week and a half since I did my AC, but only coming up on a week since my pass letter arrived...depending on which one you're going from, if things were indeed continuing on as normal behind the scenes you would imagine something would land in the door soon.
I'll not be holding my breath that's for sure!

Vince Coupon

It's prob worth remembering tho that not all people from c16 have even done their AC so the chance of getting in to the august intake would be quite small considering it'd be unfair to place someone just cos they happened to do all their tests earlier than everyone else. Think of the fuss that an applicant could make if they went to their AC in July but didn't hear about recruitment before someone else who happened to have thir AC in April

VES86

i think it would be silly to think us c16ers could get in soon. the letter clearly says recruitment is suspended end of, they are plowing ahead with vettin, meds etc because 1 its probably paid for already and 2 so they can get more feet on patrol as quickly as they can once some more money comes there way

my heart sank when i seen the letter, i just knew what it was about, but was like PHEWWWWW! when it was stateing what we already knew

VES86

Deleted User wrote: »

What was the average time people were receiving vetting in? Within about 2 weeks generally most people had them was it?
Well I'm about a week and a half since I did my AC, but only coming up on a week since my pass letter arrived...depending on which one you're going from, if things were indeed continuing on as normal behind the scenes you would imagine something would land in the door soon.
I'll not be holding my breath that's for sure!

i did my ac 5 days into the begining of the ac process, the pass letter 3 days sfter that...havent heard nothing since...who knows what way it works eh?