España -v- Germany, Wed 7:30pm RTE & ITV HD

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España -v- Germany

Match 62 - Semi-final
Durban - Durban Stadium
Wednesday 7 July, 2010
7:30pm RTE & ITV HD

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#15

Hopefully Germany will kick the crap outta them.

_Bella_

Can't wait, hoping for a German win!

Yakult

Expecting Germany to win. Dont think Spain will hold them but then again, we've seen some shocks so far!

redout

Muller is suspended for the Germans so that will certainly weaken them somewhat.

He has four goals so far in the tournament.

unkel

0-3 easiest victory for Germany yet

redout

Seemingly Muller has 3 assists aswell as four goals in the tournament - thats definitely gonna be a blow.

Anyone know who will play instead of him ?

_Bella_

I'm not sure if Spain go behind that they can recover

Mr.Nice Guy

Spain to get the job done. 2-1.

#15

redout wrote: »

Seemingly Muller has 3 assists aswell as four goals in the tournament - thats definitely gonna be a blow.

Anyone know who will play instead of him ?

Maybe Trochowski or Kroos??

_Bella_

redout wrote: »

Seemingly Muller has 3 assists aswell as four goals in the tournament - thats definitely gonna be a blow.

Anyone know who will play instead of him ?

I'd say Trochowski

Oat23

redout wrote: »

Seemingly Muller has 3 assists aswell as four goals in the tournament - thats definitely gonna be a blow.

Anyone know who will play instead of him ?

Piotr Trochowski I'd say, he's good.

Nemanja91

redout wrote: »

Anyone know who will play instead of him ?

They could try Marko Marin, hopefully Germany will win this one.

jesus_thats_gre

Germany for me..

Lukker-

Germany to crush them.

Early match thread !!

12-0 Germany

Boskowski

#15 wrote: »

Maybe Trochowski or Kroos??

Ye, reckon so too. It may not be a straight swap, some re-shuffling may be needed but I'd say it's going to be either of the two.

ragg

The cream of the crop, should really be the final

Boskowski

rarnes1 wrote: »

Early match thread !!

12-0 Germany

Ye dam it. And I was going to do the nice logos and the write-up and all. Ah well, no point now.

_Bella_

Hmm we will have to see what that squid thinks!

Podge2k7

Im looking forward to this! Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.

Boskowski

Germany - España meh

either

Germany - Spain

or

Deutschland - España

Sorry, just being German...:cool:

thegen

Really hope Spain win this, but can't look past an easy German win.

redout

I hope that Del Bosque finally acknowledges that Torres aint right and drops him.

Because all we have seen is five poor performances to be honest - can only wonder what might have been if Llorente played all the games instead.

#15

Boskowski wrote: »

Germany - España meh

either

Germany - Spain

or

Deutschland - España

Sorry, just being German...:cool:

Ah, the familiar German pedantry.

Not being xenophobic, the other half is German.

Boskowski

#15 wrote: »

Ah, the familiar German pedantry.

Not being xenophobic, the other half is German.

Or better again:

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Boskowski

#15 wrote: »

Not being xenophobic, the other half is German.

All the more reason (at times)

_Bella_

Spain have the same problem that Argentina have. They have too many superstars and they try to play as many as they can, but in the end they just don't seem to work as a team

steelcityblues

David Villa has to be the lone centre forward on Wednesday.

If Torres starts again, well, it is already one foot in the final for Germany. You then would expect them to win!

CorkMan

WTF @ germany being out and out favourites.

If Germany played Paraguay today, it would not have been 4-0. Meanwhile, if Spain played Argentina, there would have been 3-4 goals before half time. Germany VS Spain is totally different from Germany VS Argentina. I think if Spain play Fabregas from the start and leave Torres on the bench they will nick it 2-1.

I don't expect Germany to be getting too many goals, as they would be cautious of Spain going at them.

redout

_Bella_ wrote: »

Spain have the same problem that Argentina have. They have too many superstars and they try to play as many as they can, but in the end they just don't seem to work as a team

That accusation is just wrong.

The majority of this team is the one that won Euro 2008.

Del Bosque has changed the system and decided to deploy two more defensive midfielders and drop an attacking midfielder.

This has led to Xavi being choked of the ball and having less outlets to deploy his passes - he has had to try adapt.

Nobody is a fan of this system and more or less the whole Spanish press has demanded that it be dropped but Del Bosque is having none of it.

Also the fact Torres has without doubt been rushed back from surgery he had with Liverpool hasnt helped.

I think that Shearer and Hansen had it spot on tonight when they said Spain have practically played all their games with only 10 men because Torres is totally out of it.

redout

Del Bosque has said they didnt play well but he is happy they took their chance. He gave credit to Paraguay and said that Germany are the best team in the tournament at the moment.

Boskowski

CorkMan wrote: »

WTF @ germany being out and out favourites.

If Germany played Paraguay today, it would not have been 4-0. Meanwhile, if Spain played Argentina, there would have been 3-4 goals before half time. Germany VS Spain is totally different from Germany VS Argentina. I think if Spain play Fabregas from the start and leave Torres on the bench they will nick it 2-1.

I don't expect Germany to be getting too many goals, as they would be cautious of Spain going at them.

Too many if's in your post.
Nobody knows what would have happened if Germany had played Paraguay. But I' m wondering are you suggesting that Paraguay is much better than Argentina then, is it? I wonder would you have suggested that last night, too?

karma_

I can;t see Germany having too many problems with Spain to be honest, I think it was Des who predicted a Netherlands v Germany final very early on and it looks like that is becoming more and more likely. Would love to see the Dutch finally get the trophy as they have been close so often.

Boskowski

karma_ wrote: »

I can;t see Germany having too many problems with Spain to be honest, I think it was Des who predicted a Netherlands v Germany final very early on and it looks like that is becoming more and more likely. Would love to see the Dutch finally get the trophy as they have been close so often.

While it would be a great final and while I can also entertain your thought that Holland deserves a title I must say hopefully not if Germany could get it instead.

But there is two very good teams who don't want this to happen at all, so let's not get hasty.

karma_

Boskowski wrote: »

While it would be a great final and while I can also entertain your thought that Holland deserves a title I must say hopefully not if Germany could get it instead.

But there is two very good teams who don't want this to happen at all, so let's not get hasty.

Germany would be worthy winners for sure, one of teh few teams to entertain this WC and if they get to the final they will have dispatched England, Argentina and Spain.

Deeper Blue

Argentina made chances against Germany and Spain will too.

3-1 Spain

Shanotheslayer

Think Germany will win, but missing Mueller is a big blow.

Sticking to my guns for Spain to win the WC tho. 1-0 Spain.

karma_

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Think Germany will win, but missing Mueller is a big blow.

Sticking to my guns for Spain to win the WC tho. 1-0 Spain.

You haven't been right about anything since 1994.

JohnnyRyan99

redout wrote: »

Waves to Johnnyryan99 :pac: and I just won €200

Aw cheers buddy:p Put it all on Germany now and your away with it and by 2+ while ur at it!! Handy money sure! Although i must say fair play if u had the tremendous incite to predict a shock win for Spain tonight.........against Paraguay:rolleyes:! Something tells me this thread could be special come Wendnesday.. 7:30ish

redout

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

Aw cheers buddy:p Put it all on Germany now and your away with it and by 2+ while ur at it!! Handy money sure! Although i must say fair play if u had the tremendous incite to predict a shock win for Spain tonight.........against Paraguay:rolleyes:! Something tells me this thread could be special come Wendnesday.. 7:30ish

Well that shows what the hell you know!

A person would wanna have balls to wager big at 1/2 against considering the way Spain have been playing in the tournament.

Roll on wednesday indeed - I dont predict a winner just like I didnt predict one with any of Spains games since they were beaten by the Swiss.

flahavaj

This is impossible to predict. What an occasion it promises to be though. The midfield battle will be crucila and absolutely fascinating to watch unfold.

One side point - why in the world are Real Madrid wasting their time looking at Gerrard when Schweisteiger is available. They should break the bank for him, his transformation into a world class midfield general has been extraordinary.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Pretty please a Germany win.

Shanotheslayer

karma_ wrote: »

You haven't been right about anything since 1994.

This is true! Lost 3 bets today on Spain

Boskowski

flahavaj wrote: »

One side point - why in the world are Real Madrid wasting their time looking at Gerrard when Schweisteiger is available. They should break the bank for him, his transformation into a world class midfield general has been extraordinary.

I think Bayern management have already made it very clear that he's anything but. Can't find the link at the moment but I was reading a statement from Rummenigge earlier this week saying that not one of Bayerns internationals currently attracting attention at the World Cup are up for debate. He sounded fairly adamant.

Edit: But I agree, he's matured from a talented player who I was not quite sure whether he'll make it big into an absolute class act. He has really impressed me. And so has Lahm, although with him I already knew that he was outstanding.

eagle eye

Spain are a championship winning side full of experience. I expect them to beat Germany but they will have to be better at the back.

flahavaj

Boskowski wrote: »

I think Bayern management have already made it very clear that he's anything but. Can't find the link at the moment but I was reading a statement from Rummenigge earlier this week saying that not one of Bayerns internationals currently attracting attention at the World Cup are up for debate. He sounded fairly adamant.

£40 million and he'd soon change his tune.

Everyone has their price, don't kid yourself.

redout

Buying a german player based on the International tournaments is a big risk in my opinion.

We have seen before that these guys are top class on the international stage but when it comes to the club football they really aint at the same level.

Kind of like the opposite of England.

flahavaj

redout wrote: »

Buying a german player based on the International tournaments is a big risk in my opinion.

We have seen before that these guys are top class on the international stage but when it comes to the club football they really aint at the same level.

Kind of like the opposite of England.

He was excellent for Bayern in the CL as well in fairness.

But generally thats a good point, buying players based solely on a good World Cup often works out badly.

I call it Milan Baros Syndrome.

Shanotheslayer

redout wrote: »

Buying a german player based on the International tournaments is a big risk in my opinion.

We have seen before that these guys are top class on the international stage but when it comes to the club football they really aint at the same level.

Kind of like the opposite of England.

Klose and Poldolski had terrible seasons with their club this year IIRC?

And Klose and Poldolski always play well for their country.

Boskowski

redout wrote: »

Buying a german player based on the International tournaments is a big risk in my opinion.

We have seen before that these guys are top class on the international stage but when it comes to the club football they really aint at the same level.

Kind of like the opposite of England.

Can you give me an example? I'm curious because very few Germans transfer abroad and of the few that do I recall hardly any failures.