Uruguay vs Netherlands, WC Semi Final, Tuesday July 6th, RTE & ITV

ultain

T-b0n3 wrote: »

They are 4/11 on Betfair to get to the final. That price is massive assume its a mistake?

Maybe, 4/6 to win in the 90. regards ouright it must be 8/15

Pepe LeFrits

inforfun wrote: »

Boulahrouz and De Zeeuw are the obvious replacements for the suspended Dutch players.
De Zeeuw might be going a bit more forward than De Jong will ever do and maybe Van Persie will finally get the support up front he so desperately is looking for.

I'd say van Persie needs van der Vaart to come in for Sneijder for that to happen.

Still I hope the Dutch win this; I don't want Uruguay to progress any further and the rivalry of a Holland-Germany final would be great.

Fizman

fryup wrote: »

could be an x-rated game, the dutch have been a wee bit tasty so far and uruguay being latins will not back off lightly

What makes it even more interesting is that the ref is the 32 year old lad from Uzbekistan who has been fantastic throughout the tournament. He has been relatively lenient so far, he likes to play on when the opportunity arises and he has been very good is waving away so called play acting. Wonder how Robben will get on with him.

Daemos

They're 15/8 to win the final with Stan James, they vary from 8/13 to 4/6 to beat Uruguay in normal time

Eire-Dearg

Are the teams out yet?

redout

Fizman wrote: »

What makes it even more interesting is that the ref is the 32 year old lad from Uzbekistan who has been fantastic throughout the tournament. He has been relatively lenient so far, he likes to play on when the opportunity arises and he has been very good is waving away so called play acting. Wonder how Robben will get on with him.

It is baffling how Webb has not been given a game since the last 16 even though he and his team are yet to put a foot wrong - still not been dismissed by FIFA but awfully odd he got no quarter or semi but could realistically be given the final.

Daemos

Nothing on BBC yet anyway

flahavaj

Someone is gonna get the line tonight. Maybe van Bommel.

SlickRic

ah Holland are unbackable in this unless you're clever.

Uruguay must be worth a punt, even if they're Suarez-less.

flahavaj

Did a double on both semi finals being draws after 90 minutes. Given the cagey nature of semi finals I reckon its a decent shout.

inforfun

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

I'd say van Persie needs van der Vaart to come in for Sneijder for that to happen.

Still I hope the Dutch win this; I don't want Uruguay to progress any further and the rivalry of a Holland-Germany final would be great.

Van der Vaart and Van Persie combine really well. But Sneijder out is not going to happen i fear

I do hope for a Hol -Ger final. Finally a chance to put 1974 right.

SlickRic

inforfun wrote: »

I do hope for a Hol -Ger final. Finally a chance to put 1974 right.

i'm happy to get into this argument if a 2010 Final between the two materialises.

but Holland screwed themselves over from what i've seen of that tournament, and final. ah complacency.

yes, they're possibly the best team to never win the World Cup along with Brazil '82 and Hungary '54 (i'm told!), but there's a reason the Germans are Germans, especially back in the day. none of that fancy 'total football' nonsense.

just stick the ball in the net.

jesus_thats_gre

Is Lugano playing?

Mr.Nice Guy

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Is Lugano playing?

No he hasn't made it according to SSN. Teams:

Uruguay: Muslera, M Pereira, Victorino, Godin, Caceres, Perez, Rios, Gargano, A Pereira, Cavani, Forlan

Holland: Stekelenburg, Boulahrouz, Heitinga, Mathijsen, Van Bronckhorst, Van Bommel, De Zeeuw, Robben, Sneijder, Kuyt, Van Persie

_Bella_

Uruguay: 1-Fernando Muslera; 3-Diego Godin, 6-Mauricio Victorino, 5-Walter Gargano, 16-Maximiliano Pereira, 22-Martin Caceres, 15-Diego Perez, 11-Alvaro Pereira, 17-Egidio Arevalo, 7-Edinson Cavani, 10-Diego Forlan.

Netherlands: 1-Maarten Stekelenburg; 12-Khalid Boulahrouz, 3-John Heitinga, 4-Joris Mathijsen, 5-Giovanni van Bronckhorst; 7-Dirk Kuyt, 6-Mark van Bommel, 10-Wesley Sneijder, 14-Demy de Zeeuw, 11-Arjen Robben; 9-Robin van Persie.

inforfun

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm happy to get into this argument if a 2010 Final between the two materialises.

but Holland screwed themselves over from what i've seen of that tournament, and final. ah complacency.

yes, they're possibly the best team to never win the World Cup along with Brazil '82 and Hungary '54 (i'm told!), but there's a reason the Germans are Germans, especially back in the day. none of that fancy 'total football' nonsense.

just stick the ball in the net.

Thing was that half the Dutch wanted to sit back and let the Germans come after the 1-0 and the other half wanted to do them some real damage. 1 team, 2 thoughts is destined to go wrong and so it did .

_Bella_

The Netherlands probably have the whole of Africa behind them

amacachi

Really should've checked the team news before betting.

Mr.Nice Guy

That opening package by RTE was whacky to say the least.

bonerm

_Bella_ wrote: »

The Netherlands probably have the whole of Africa behind them

most of the world too I'd imagine. Uruguay sure know how to make themselves unpopular.

(hoping for Uruguay win )

Boskowski

Pretty impressive Dutch lineup there

mike65

Apparently Wesley Sneijder is a surprise

LuckyLloyd

bonerm wrote: »

most of the world too I'd imagine. Uruguay sure know how to make themselves unpopular.

(hoping for Uruguay win )

Yeah, I'm sure people just envisage hearts and puppies when they see Van Bommel coming through the back of opposition players!

CorkMan

"Robben Good" is the main headline tonight!!!

mike65 wrote: »

Apparently Wesley Sneijder is a surprise

him vs Higuain

ultain

SlickRic wrote: »

ah Holland are unbackable in this unless you're clever.

Uruguay must be worth a punt, even if they're Suarez-less.

12/1 urugay win

MementoMori

Like everyone else I find it hard to see past the Dutch.

Uruguay's only hope is Forlan having a massive game.

SlickRic

wow, Didi picked Uruguay.

now i'm stumped.

bonerm

mike65 wrote: »

Apparently Wesley Sneijder is a surprise

..... never heard of him. He musn't play in the Premiership yet?

LeeroyJones

Van Bommel sure is a top footballer, but not a note in his head!

bonerm

I wonder why Forlan appears to have been the only player to really get to grip with this ball?

Mr.Nice Guy

With a fair bit of optimism I'll say 3-0 to Holland, who will hopefully hit top gear in this game.

_Bella_

SlickRic wrote: »

wow, Didi picked Uruguay.

now i'm stumped.

Funniest thing was how he said. "The Dutch are undefeated so Uruguay are going to win!"

Oat23

Someone in my building just had to start drilling 5 minutes before the football starts, didn't they? :mad:

I've got money on 2-1 Holland AET @ 15/1.

C'mon the Dutch.

Barr

ultain wrote: »

12/1 urugay win

Where are you getting those odds ?

ultain

Hup Netherlands!!

ultain

Barr wrote: »

Where are you getting those odds ?

For the lads on the telly..unless Johnny meant to win the cup?

SV

Come on Netherlands..send the cheaters home!

Pro. F

Holland in normal time for me. 2-0

Barr

ultain wrote: »

For the lads on the telly..unless Johnny meant to win the cup?

Their 5/1 on betfair , it must be for the cup.

tony1kenobi

Jim Beglin got a sick cert.....don't wish any ills on the guy but I'm kinda made up over that....

bonerm

That was interesting about Uruguays best world cups always being in 20 year cycles. 1930 50 70 90 and 2010.

_Bella_

^^ Thats pretty freaky!

LeeroyJones

tony1kenobi wrote: »

Jim Beglin got a sick cert.....don't wish any ills on the guy but I'm kinda made up over that....

Compared to the other major co-commentators, I think Beglin is streets ahead of Houghton and Lawrensen, best of a bad bunch you could argue though!

Edgy enough start, Kuyt had a decent chance though

amacachi

bonerm wrote: »

I wonder why Forlan appears to have been the only player to really get to grip with this ball?

Must own shares in whatever company makes the Cup Champions balls.

_Bella_

The Dutch definitely look the more likely to score so far.

SV

He clearly wasn't offside...

angel01

Think it is just a matter of time before the Dutch score.

Stevecw

angel01 wrote: »

Think it is just a matter of time before the Dutch score.

Its looking that way. I'm still holding out for a 0-0 as i have a tenner on it at 8/1 on betfair!!

syngindub

bonerm wrote: »

That was interesting about Uruguays best world cups always being in 20 year cycles. 1930 50 70 90 and 2010.

note made in calender for 2030

LeeroyJones

Wow