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Ip blocks being banned

  • 03-07-2010 10:55pm
    #1
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭


    If a message board bans a user and the same user rejoins once their ISP rotates their IP number is it likely that a site will ban all accounts from an ISP?

    Do users like this do damage to ISPs and if so should thier ISP consider cutting them off?:D

    Also would it be a good idea for sites to report the IP number and the time and date so the ISP can trace the user?


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  • #2
    Dublin_Gunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Ranicand wrote: »
    If a message board bans a user and the same user rejoins once their ISP rotates their IP number is it likely that a site will ban all accounts from an ISP?

    Do users like this do damage to ISPs and if so should thier ISP consider cutting them off?:D

    Also would it be a good idea for sites to report the IP number and the time and date so the ISP can trace the user?


    Unless you've done anything very illegal, your ISP will have no reason to get involved. And by very illegal, in ireland, that will most likely mean some form of criminal investigation into child pornography or something as serious.

    i.e if you got yourself banned (plus your IP range) because you were being a twat, well, tough.

    And no, an ISP would not give a fiddlers if you get yourself banned from a message board / forum.

    Thats like saying Ford would give a sh1t if you got your drivers licence suspended.


  • #3
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Dublin_Gunner wrote: »
    Unless you've done anything very illegal, your ISP will have no reason to get involved. And by very illegal, in ireland, that will most likely mean some form of criminal investigation into child pornography or something as serious.

    i.e if you got yourself banned (plus your IP range) because you were being a twat, well, tough.

    And no, an ISP would not give a fiddlers if you get yourself banned from a message board / forum.

    No not banned on any site.

    My question is about people who do get banned over and over again.

    What I am saying if these people get blocks of IP numbers banned are they not harming the reputation of the ISP they are using and potentially making life difficult for other customers of the ISP,


  • #4
    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Most sites don't IP block, because it really doesn't work too well. If an IP block is being used, they often block a whole subnet, which can cause problems for lots of users.

    ISPs won't care about a user causing trouble on Internet forums either.


  • #5
    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Ranicand wrote: »
    My question is about people who do get banned over and over again.

    They just get banned again. Check out the Prison forum here and you'll see the same users come back time and again, only to get banned once more. It's usually fairly easy to spot them too.


  • #6
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    jor el wrote: »
    Most sites don't IP block, because it really doesn't work too well. If an IP block is being used, they often block a whole subnet, which can cause problems for lots of users.

    ISPs won't care about a user causing trouble on Internet forums either.

    What a pity one or two selfish people can ruin things for lot's of people.

    :(


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  • #7
    Dublin_Gunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Ranicand wrote: »
    No not banned on any site.

    My question is about people who do get banned over and over again.

    What I am saying if these people get blocks of IP numbers banned are they not harming the reputation of the ISP they are using and potentially making life difficult for other customers of the ISP,


    I didn't mean you as in Ranicand, I menat 'you' as in 'a person on an internet forum'.

    And no, why would someone's behaviour have any effect on their ISP? An ISP is not a baby sitting service.

    A lot of sites do use subnet bans (particularly for repeat offenders), more than you would think.

    AFAIK Boards.ie does indeed use subnet bans when necessary. (a similar question was raised not so long ago on boards).


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I came across a situation about a month ago where I got a call from a regular customer saying she couldn't send e-mail anymore. It turns out her IP range on Vodafone was put on the spamhaus blacklist for being in a "spammy neighbourhood." So while she wasn't sending the spam the entire subnet was blocked for a period.


  • #9
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    jor el wrote: »
    Most sites don't IP block, because it really doesn't work too well. If an IP block is being used, they often block a whole subnet, which can cause problems for lots of users.

    This is why people should avoid ISPs with only a very few public IP adddreses . I know Imagine and 3 were sitebanned on fora more than once coz it was

    a) easy
    b) got rid of a nuisance PDQ

    It is sort of pointless banning IPs with large ISPs with avery large pool but the amount of individual eircom addresses on Spamhaus...sometimes for many years...is depressing. If someone cannot send email or sends email that disappears then tell them to turn the router off for 20 mins and get a new IP address, talking to eircom is pointless.


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