Who's Emigrating?

PeterIanStaker

In order to save the Irish economy, the best and brightest of us have to leave these shores every generation.

This is to allow the thickos left behind to keep going to mass and voting Fianna Fail without fear of persecution.

I'm gone by the end of the year. Canada or maybe the UK.

Who else is going?

pablomakaveli

I'm hoping to go to the UK before the end of the year.

Hail 2 Da Thief

I'm just back from Canada but hoping to head to New Zealand soon!

Lu Tze

Oz in september

PeterIanStaker

I know this is a silly question but, whats Canada like? In general? (I know its a huge country with a range of climates I've a degree in Geography ffs, but are people nice and are there jobs to be got?)

danbohan

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

In order to save the Irish economy, the best and brightest of us have to leave these shores every generation.

This is to allow the thickos left behind to keep going to mass and voting Fianna Fail without fear of persecution.

I'm gone by the end of the year. Canada or maybe the UK.

Who else is going?

so why are you and all the others not going to stay and try to change from inside ?, you cant do it from outside

SeaFields

Maybe these people will have to.

Don't tell Brian Cowen and co. tho. Those inept cnuts reckon the recession is over.

I be honest. Ive lost all hope for this country and the part i can play in it.

The Aussie

yep, plans are a foot, end of next summer, as soon as the irish economy picks up again the country will get flooded again by unskilled construction workers and there is plenty of work for a tradesman back in oz where labourers cant pretend to be qualified(grabs coat

Elliemental

I came here from Liverpool over a decade ago now, and the English economy is just as screwed as the Irish economy. So all those planning on heading there; honestly, there is no point!
I wouldn't mind moving on again, just to experience a different culture. But I love it here too much. I miss Ireland dreadfully when I visit home/leave.

PeterIanStaker

danbohan wrote: »

so why are you and all the others not going to stay and try to change from inside ?, you cant do it from outside

The only way to change this place would be to napalm the Dail, Seanad, RTE, Independent Newspapers and every single church in the land.

jesus_thats_gre

Nah, I have a job..

PeterIanStaker

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Nah, I have a job..

A what?

Dravokivich

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

This is to allow the thickos left behind to keep going to mass and voting Fianna Fail without fear of persecution.

For the now... I'm staying... but I don't do either of the above...

ICE HOUSE

Just came back 2 years ago after nearly 10 years away and I still havent found a job here. Some things never change eh ?
Im getting on now a bit in age but I have been doing a lot of thinking lately and it looks like im going to have to leave again. Sick of the whole f**in thing.
Emmigrating is a young mans game and im dreadin the toughts of this s**t all over again.

4zn76tysfajdxp

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Who's Emigrating?

Emigrants!

PeterIanStaker

Dravokivich wrote: »

For the now... I'm staying... but I don't do either of the above...

Its obvious that you dont do either, because your able to use a computer:D
I was kinda talking about the 24% or whatever it is in those polls, not that I believe them for a second, that would still vote for those inbreds.

Ruu_Old

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

In order to save the Irish economy, the best and brightest of us have to leave these shores every generation.

This is to allow the thickos left behind to keep going to mass and voting Fianna Fail without fear of persecution.

I'm gone by the end of the year. Canada or maybe the UK.

Who else is going?

Nonsense, you'll be still living with Mammy! Far too cushy of a life to give up so ya have! :pac:

orourkeda

Elliemental wrote: »

I came here from Liverpool over a decade ago now, and the English economy is just as screwed as the Irish economy. So all those planning on heading there; honestly, there is no point!
I wouldn't mind moving on again, just to experience a different culture. But I love it here too much. I miss Ireland dreadfully when I visit home/leave.

That's just as I thought,

Mike 1972

Im in fairly stable employment ATM but if that were to change Im increacingly toying with the idea of moving to The Netherlands but I havent a clue whats available workwise or how Id go about finding it (particularly given that Im shyte with languages)

In a sense Im an emigrant/immigrant already though.

PeterIanStaker

Ruu wrote: »

Nonsense, you'll be still living with Mammy! Far too cushy of a life to give up so ya have! :pac:

Professionally qualified, haemorraghing rent, interviewing for everything relevant but there's never any callbacks, last contract not renewed due to cutbacks, how is that cushy?

Biggins

Figures of 70,000 (Irish Times) and 70,000 (Indo) have been quoted even as late as yesterday as having left the country in the last year.

With the likes of Eircom dropping hundreds/thousands of jobs soon, I can't see the tide turning soon to be honest.

danbohan

Biggins wrote: »

Figures of 60,000 (Irish Times) to 70,000 (Indo) have been quoted even as late as yesterday as having left the country in the last year.

With the likes of Eircom dropping hundreds/thousands of jobs soon, I can't see the tide turning soon to be honest.

i was back in new york recently seen a lot of new young irish in some the bars in yonkers/bronk nothing close to scale of 80s , yet. i think the tide has not started at all yet , its like the period 1981 -1984 lot people thinking of it, trickle going , before floodgates opened from 1985-1989 , and its almost like groundhog day for those of us from that period , we even have a lenighan in goverment telling us everything is fine and dandy really !

dartbhoy

I'm considering going to the Netherlands myself. I'm a pipefitter myself and i've been out of work over 2 months now. I was looking at the UK but the construction sector over there seems to be just as bad as here. There's talks of major construction work coming off in the Netherlands in the near future and I've applied for 2 positions i saw advertised on the net from a UK and Dutch agency. By all accounts English is widely spoken throughout the Netherlands.

ICE HOUSE

Biggins wrote: »

Figures of 70,000 (Irish Times) and 70,000 (Indo) have been quoted even as late as yesterday as having left the country in the last year.

With the likes of Eircom dropping hundreds/thousands of jobs soon, I can't see the tide turning soon to be honest.

Shocking figures alright.
Id say those figures could easily treble by the end of this year.

SeaFields

Biggins wrote: »

Figures of 70,000 (Irish Times) and 70,000 (Indo) have been quoted even as late as yesterday as having left the country in the last year.

With the likes of Eircom dropping hundreds/thousands of jobs soon, I can't see the tide turning soon to be honest.

Young people. Traditionally non-FF voting. Leaving and will probably not vote once they start to build lives elsewhere. No wonder FF can still hover around the 25% support level no matter how much the fcuk up this country.

caseyann

I love Eire,and i may go in and out of the country for few months here and there,i will never emigrate for good and always at home in my heart.:cool:
Ireland is the best country in world barr the stupid greedy lot.

Mike 1972

dartbhoy wrote: »

By all accounts English is widely spoken throughout the Netherlands.

It is but knowing Dutch to some degree is still handy

1) For dealings one might will have with officialdom
2) For jobs with even a minimal level of customer service/dealing with the public
3) For getting better deals/avoiding ripoffs
4) Out of general courtesy to the citizens of ones host nation one should try and make an effort (even if theyre totally crap at it)

TBH when Im over there I always feel slightly embarrassed about the crap education I received in Ireland when I hear so many Dutch people speak perfect English

dartbhoy

Mike 1972 wrote: »

It is but knowing Dutch to some degree is still handy

1) For dealings one might will have with officialdom
2) For jobs with even a minimal level of customer service/dealing with the public
3) For getting better deals/avoiding ripoffs
4) Out of general courtesy to the citizens of ones host nation one should try and make an effort (even if theyre totally crap at it)

TBH when Im over there I always feel slightly embarrassed about the crap education I received in Ireland when I hear so many Dutch people speak perfect English

I'd agree with you there Mike 1972. I phoned an agency in Rotterdam and was greeted on the phone in English! The lady i was dealing with spoke perfect english throughout our conversation! To be honest she spoke better English than some of the locals in my area! It would be nice to try and use a bit of the local lingo when in their countries.

Biggins

ICE HOUSE wrote: »

Shocking figures alright.
Id say those figures could easily treble by the end of this year.

If that 70,00 that have left, decided to say - christ thats a further drain on finance resources and would massively bump up the current unemployment figures to more accurate terms!

Side note: it appears that weekly we have 3,500 welfare tourists exposed (as to their fraud) due to the ash cloud fiasco. See here.

Mike 1972

From talking to people whove lived there.....

Knowing the lingo boosts ones range of job opportunities and likely salary even though the overwhelming majority of people one will be dealing with will be quite fluent English speakers.

Also if one plans on staying long term being able to follow local news/current affairs would be handy

danbohan

Biggins wrote: »

If that 70,00 that have left, decided to say - christ thats a further drain on finance resources and would massively bump up the current unemployment figures to more accurate terms!

Side note: it appears that weekly we have 3,500 welfare tourists exposed (as to their fraud) due to the ash cloud fiasco. See here.

not to mention the 500k that left in 80s and 90s most of who did not return , which goes to show the sham that is fianna fail and their ilk, this country since its inception in 1921 has failed in every generation to provide sufficent employment for its people save for a false construction bubble from 2000-2008 ,

ejmaztec

You would have thought that after 90 years, the feckin arseholes running this country, would actually try to get some work for its population, instead of pretending that they're interested.

They've always taken the easy option, relying on mass-emigration, and money sent home by the emigrants to prop up the economies in depressed areas.

Take the annual St Paddy's Day sham. I'm sure that it happens all over the country, where the local "dignatories" take off on the piss to the US, on a mission "to persuade Irish-Americans to invest in the auld country":rolleyes:.

I know that this happens in Kerry every year, for instance, but all that they seem to come back with are hangovers and bags of duty-free. To add insult to injury, we're the ones footing the bill for these bullsh1t trips.

El Siglo

I'm moving to Northern Ireland if that counts? My brother is in China and my sister is in Saudi, both extremely qualified and doing well... in another country. I truly do hate this place, I hate how we let a bunch of stupid old bastards push us around and take the piss. The only people not feeling the pain are the ones in power and the rich ones. In France, they didn't put up with this and people got the chop and I'm not talking a chop in their extortionate wages.

Takeshi_Kovacs

Wouldn't mind heading to Canada for a bit, more so because i am incredibly bored with Ireland now. Just want to see different culture, meet new people, go hiking, etc in outdoors, rather than the painfully mindnumbing routine i have at the moment.

plein de force

my degree will mean i have to study in france for a while
if things work out there with jobs etc i might not come back

brummytom

I'm Emigrating to Ireland :cool:

gizmo

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

In order to save the Irish economy, the best and brightest of us have to leave these shores every generation.

This is to allow the thickos left behind to keep going to mass and voting Fianna Fail without fear of persecution.

I'm gone by the end of the year. Canada or maybe the UK.

Who else is going?

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

I know this is a silly question but, whats Canada like? In general? (I know its a huge country with a range of climates I've a degree in Geography ffs, but are people nice and are there jobs to be got?)

Something is wrong here...

shofukan

I'm hoping to go to Germany to study in college when I'm finished school. After that, I don't know what might happen but I don't particularly want to come back.

bnt

Is it still called Emigration if you're an Immigrant to Ireland? I have a couple more years at university (Master's in Engineering), then if I can't find work, I'm off.

PeterIanStaker

gizmo wrote: »

Something is wrong here...

Indeed there is. There are no f**ing jobs!

And re Canada, I was looking for something along the lines of anecdotes about Canda or something. But I'm sure anecdotes and stories have been cut back.

AARRRRGH

danbohan wrote: »

so why are you and all the others not going to stay and try to change from inside ?, you cant do it from outside

Of course they can.
There is nothing new here.
For many generations in most countries, people have had to leave home and some return many years later with new skills and ideas that help further the economy.

Its kind of like a social natural selection.

Times get hard. Many leave for new pastures.
All of them expect to do well.
Some of these do really well, and some of those who did well return and contribute to their own country in the future.
Others will skip by in their chosen lands as illegals and actually have a worse life than they would have here.
The circle of life

jordan..

I have a pretty good job but I am still fed up with this kip..

Thinkin canada or oz next year! I love my country but the people running it and much of the population are assholes!

MistyCheese

Whooo, hooo I am a specialist Misty-cal Cheese-i-cal.

So I'm safe. The rest of you are saftee, I can. For now, Em. I cal/

Also'll ruin it for everyone!!!!



SHUSH< you

cloneslad

I started planning to leave in april 2006 when things were still pretty rosey back home, graduated in Novermber, left in February 2007 to come to Korea, everything turned to shít when I left.

Came back home in july 2008, did my masters, graduated in December 2009 and came back out to Korea in february this year.

I am only staying till next march then travelling for a month or so. Go to my mates wedding at the end of April and hope to god I find a job in a month or two, if not, I'm off again!

danbohan

AARRRRGH wrote: »

Of course they can.
There is nothing new here.
For many generations in most countries, people have had to leave home and some return many years later with new skills and ideas that help further the economy.

Its kind of like a social natural selection.

Times get hard. Many leave for new pastures.
Some of these do really well, and some of those who did well return and contribute to their own country in the future.

and the results of this in ireland are ?, we have had periods of emigration right throughtout the last centary so if your argument had held up we would not be repeating it now . ireland inc is ran by a rotten self centred group whose only intrest is maintaining the status quo thats has existed since the foundation of the state . what other countries in western europe has exported its people like we have here , denmark finland , sweden , dont think so , perhaps we have made it too easy for the status quo to be maintained here by just leaving

PatsytheNazi

ejmaztec wrote: »

You would have thought that after 90 years, the feckin arseholes running this country, would actually try to get some work for its population, instead of pretending that they're interested.

They've always taken the easy option, relying on mass-emigration, and money sent home by the emigrants to prop up the economies in depressed areas.

Take the annual St Paddy's Day sham. I'm sure that it happens all over the country, where the local "dignatories" take off on the piss to the US, on a mission "to persuade Irish-Americans to invest in the auld country":rolleyes:.

I know that this happens in Kerry every year, for instance, but all that they seem to come back with are hangovers and bags of duty-free. To add insult to injury, we're the ones footing the bill for these bullsh1t trips.

Have you carried out a 100% survey on that?........that would be another generalisation, based on your assumption that "most" people have the same opinion as yourself.

ejmaztec

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

Have you carried out a 100% survey on that?........that would be another generalisation, based on your assumption that "most" people have the same opinion as yourself.

Get back under your bridge.

You don't need surveys on After Hours, just an opinion.:P

Snowie

tomorow the results of my collage course come out.....

Im ****ting it and may just have to emegrate dine now why i aint got a single qualification

TPD

Planning on going to America for 3 months after finishing the computing degree next year. If I like it and get set up properly, I'll stay. An offer of some fancy schmancy job might sway me... Probably won't happen though

mikom

PatsytheNazi wrote: »

Have you carried out a 100% survey on that?

No such thing.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Mike 1972 wrote: »

From talking to people whove lived there.....

Knowing the lingo boosts ones range of job opportunities and likely salary even though the overwhelming majority of people one will be dealing with will be quite fluent English speakers.

Also if one plans on staying long term being able to follow local news/current affairs would be handy

Hoe gaat het met u?

Where did you learn to speak dutch? I have considered it for some time now but can't see many places that teach it.

Second language is very important.