Adare Traffic Chaos

CCSL

Stay far far awar from Adare or anywhere nearby as traffic was all the way back to Raheen! earlier. Can only be worse tomorrow for the Pro Am!

JerryHandbag

If ever a town needed a bypass. Adare is hard to get thru on a normal day let alone when Tiger Woods is in town. Anyone planning on heading west should go by Croom/Ballingarry/Newcastlwest.

source

JerryHandbag wrote: »

If ever a town needed a bypass. Adare is hard to get thru on a normal day let alone when Tiger Woods is in town. Anyone planning on heading west should go by Croom/Ballingarry/Newcastlwest.

A bypass wouldn't make any difference today, seeing as the majority of those cars are heading into Adare.

hi_im_fil

Is that the Raheen exit in the picture? :eek::eek:

LB6

looks like the ramp down from the Cork road

Kess73

hi_im_fil wrote: »

Is that the Raheen exit in the picture? :eek::eek:

Looks like the exit on the Adare side of Patrickswell.


Just looked at the pic again and it is that exit

LB6

lol that's what I said!

Kess73

LB6 wrote: »

lol that's what I said!

Had replied to his post before I read down to your post.:)

JerryHandbag

foinse wrote: »

A bypass wouldn't make any difference today, seeing as the majority of those cars are heading into Adare.

True but its still needed, but doesnt look like happening anytime soon with a lot of dilly-dallying over the proposed route.

Kess73

JerryHandbag wrote: »

True but its still needed, but doesnt look like happening anytime soon with a lot of dilly-dallying over the proposed route.

Wasn't there something on Live95fm or the Leader some time back about how the road at the end of the motorway (the bit in the picture with the traffic) is actually in the wrong place for the by pass?

Think it was that the road as it is, is set up for a bypass to go around Adare on it's right hand side as you look at the town as you come from Limerick, but the newest plans for a by pass were to go around the town on it's left hand side, meaning the end of the motorway and the stretch of road off of it are in the wrong place.

Stab*City

Kess73 wrote: »

Wasn't there something on Live95fm or the Leader some time back about how the road at the end of the motorway (the bit in the picture with the traffic) is actually in the wrong place for the by pass?

Think it was that the road as it is, is set up for a bypass to go around Adare on it's right hand side as you look at the town as you come from Limerick, but the newest plans for a by pass were to go around the town on it's left hand side, meaning the end of the motorway and the stretch of road off of it are in the wrong place.

not surpirsingly..

limklad

hi_im_fil wrote: »

Is that the Raheen exit in the picture? :eek::eek:

No It looks like it is Patrickwell, at the bridge on the N20 Cork road.

slinky2000

Oh Jesus!

CCSL

Kess73 wrote: »

Looks like the exit on the Adare side of Patrickswell.


Just looked at the pic again and it is that exit

Yip thats where I was, pulled in for a quick snap. at 11:30!!

Not an early morning Jam, It stretched off down towards Raheen.

They are saying on the radio that they have opened more car parks as they were expecting only 30,000 but surly they know how many hats they sold?
to be off my 10,000 is a bit much, were they expecting everyone to car pool?

panda100

Huge queues in the other direction too. Traffic jams all the way back past Clonshire heading into adare today from NCW direction.

Best to use the Askeaton road If your heading into Limerick from the West tommorow.

Tech3

Absolute joke I had to divert via the N20 and then the regional rd towards Ballingarry to NCW.

JerryHandbag

Kess73 wrote: »

Wasn't there something on Live95fm or the Leader some time back about how the road at the end of the motorway (the bit in the picture with the traffic) is actually in the wrong place for the by pass?

Think it was that the road as it is, is set up for a bypass to go around Adare on it's right hand side as you look at the town as you come from Limerick, but the newest plans for a by pass were to go around the town on it's left hand side, meaning the end of the motorway and the stretch of road off of it are in the wrong place.

There was something in last weeks Leader alright, it showed the 2 routes, north and south.....but the north one was miles north!! As in the road would practically parallel the Foynes road on its way out of town, which means that you are correct in that the current bit where the motorway ends would not join up at all. Either way it all seems a terrific mess. :rolleyes:

Tech3

If it's the Adare bypass yer on about it will be part of the M20 Patrickswell to Cork scheme. The junction for the Adare bypass will be at Croom and will run offline to the south of Adare from the east.

Jigga

tech2 wrote: »

Absolute joke I had to divert via the N20 and then the regional rd towards Ballingarry to NCW.

You have to thank the tax exile McManus for that, but then you have a few gullible idiots who think that he's a great Limerick man :rolleyes:.

zuroph

Jigga wrote: »

You have to thank the tax exile McManus for that, but then you have a few gullible idiots who think that he's a great Limerick man :rolleyes:.

event raised 31 million for charity in 2005.

Jigga

zuroph wrote: »

event raised 31 million for charity in 2005.

And McManus should be paying twice that a year in tax if he paid them like the rest of us.

zuroph

Jigga wrote: »

And McManus should be paying €60 million a year in tax if he paid them like the rest of us.

if i was gonna be liable for 60 million a year I'd be finding a way to avoid it too. He's a businessman, and its good business to shop around for the cheapest deal.
Fact remains he is a decent Limerickman, take a look at where the money from the previous pro ams went, the local causes do very very well out of it. Regardless of whether he paid taxes or not, he doesnt have to do a penny of that charity stuff but does, and just brought a HUGE international event to Limerick and did the whole thing to benefit local causes.

Jigga

zuroph wrote: »

if i was gonna be liable for 60 million a year I'd be finding a way to avoid it too. He's a businessman, and its good business to shop around for the cheapest deal.
Fact remains he is a decent Limerickman, take a look at where the money from the previous pro ams went, the local causes do very very well out of it. Regardless of whether he paid taxes or not, he doesnt have to do a penny of that charity stuff but does, and just brought a HUGE international event to Limerick and did the whole thing to benefit local causes.

If he's such a decent Limerickman he'd pay his income tax. By avoiding paying taxes while still claiming Irish citizenship he leaves himself wide open to deserved criticism.

So many deluded fools in Limerick defend him even though his voluntary taxes are a tiny fraction of what he should be paying in tax.

zuroph

Jigga wrote: »

If he's such a decent Limerickman he'd pay his income tax. By avoiding paying taxes while still claiming Irish citizenship he leaves himself wide open to deserved criticism.

You still havent explained why? If he's entitled to avoid it by staying out of the country for a set period, and can afford to do so, then he is perfectly within his rights. Its just common sense to avoid paying over money you don't have to.

Itsdacraic

Jigga wrote: »

If he's such a decent Limerickman he'd pay his income tax. By avoiding paying taxes while still claiming Irish citizenship he leaves himself wide open to deserved criticism.

So many deluded fools in Limerick defend him even though his voluntary taxes are a tiny fraction of what he should be paying in tax.

Which would you rather?

JP donating millions to needy local charities and clubs or JP giving 50 million to the Government to pump into another bottomless pit of a bank?

He has pretty much single handedly brought the biggest stars from both Hollywood and world golf to Limerick for a few days, generating millions for the local economy, yet the Joe Duffy Brigade on here still find time to complain.

Let's just hope they don't leave any green markings on the road.

Kess73

Jigga wrote: »

If he's such a decent Limerickman he'd pay his income tax. By avoiding paying taxes while still claiming Irish citizenship he leaves himself wide open to deserved criticism.

So many deluded fools in Limerick defend him even though his voluntary taxes are a tiny fraction of what he should be paying in tax.

Yep it is true that he is legally avoiding paying taxes over here in Ireland, but the keyword is legally.

I do disagree with the thousands of people in and from this country who do not have to pay taxes, be they businessmen like JP or so called artists who pay no taxes on their music, writing, art etc.

But at least JP does have a positive impact upon Limerick with where he donates his money. Yes it may be partly done for publicity and goodwill, but it still does good.

How much does the likes of Bono give to his hometown? Nowt bar hot air. In fact the man moved his business interests to Holland to avoid paying any taxes or any levy in Ireland, yet he plays the whole "I'm Irish" card pretty much everytime he opens his gob.

Or good old Bertie Ahern who when he brought out his book fell under the bvracket of being an "artist" and as such his book earnings became tax free.

Ok there was a levy brought in during 2008 to get some money back, but any poet, writer, musician in this country who earns €100,000 or less only has to pay a 1% levy on their earnings and nowt else. So next time you see anyone of that profession waffling on about Ireland and claiming citizenship or whatever, make sure to hit them with criticism.

And the Irish musicians, writers etc who earn millions? Well they get to pay a massive 2% levy and nowt else.


If JP is worthy of vitriol despite giving something back finacially, then all those bands, singers and writers that are all over this country deserve it even moreso.

bazkennedy

Spent 3 hours trying to get there yesterday morning, including 30 minutes without moving an inch. Even around the town of adare there was hardly any coordination of traffic

that said it was a fun day out

topper75

Attacking McManus?

I've heard it all now.

thesimpsons

ah jeepers, once every 5 yrs you get caught in heavy traffic while 31million euros going directly to local charities - its not as if you didn't know there would be traffic chaos. Regularly get caught in munster match day traffic and not a red cent goes to charities.

while 25-30k hats were sold, under 16s and over 65s were free and there were a whole heaps of 17/18/19 year olds all claiming they were under 16. they'll be protesting their older age by the weekend trying to get into the niteclubs

keane2097

Christ almighty Jigaa your posts ITT are ridiculously full of fail.

bazz26

Jigga wrote: »

If he's such a decent Limerickman he'd pay his income tax. By avoiding paying taxes while still claiming Irish citizenship he leaves himself wide open to deserved criticism.

So many deluded fools in Limerick defend him even though his voluntary taxes are a tiny fraction of what he should be paying in tax.

There is a huge difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. One is legal the other is not.

There are many high profile business people and celebrities who avoid paying tax to the State as they legally qualify under the rules set out by Revenue. However being liable for tax and evading payment of it is illegal.