Its the poor people!!!

Piste

El Siglo wrote: »

You just happened to mention high points courses which are hard, is that supposed to be a coincidence?

Yes.

El Siglo wrote: »

I like to call this the "some of my best friends are black" argument. TP is very high points and requires something like a B1 in higher level maths. So, argument fail.

TP is not very high points. Instead of dragging the thread off topic by getting into the nitty gritty of various course requirements I'll bring it back to the crux of what I meant; that a lot of these kids will end up doing difficult courses (not necessarily high points, as I said before there are plenty of difficult courses that are not high points).

El Siglo wrote: »

Jesus Christ monkey balls, I'm not "anti-D4", I just don't want to see or read about them. I know they're generally wealthy etc... but I don't want to hear about it from them directly. (Again, the taking the crap analogy explains this). I'll put it like this, when you're eating your dinner and have the television on and an ad for concern or with the starving children etc... comes on, do you change the channel? Regardless of what you might say, nobody likes to watch starving children when they're eating their dinner, as much as I don't like reading about spoiled brats going on holidays, I don't like reading about it, why should I have to avoid it? I've bought the newspaper, I shouldn't have to avoid something I've paid for.

I'd rather not see the story in the paper too, but I take issue with what you said when you said "what people are more annoyed about is reading about these ***** in the first place. People are sick of reading of rich, stuck up, retarded little bastards talk about their pathetic leaving cert and even more pathetic holiday. There's always been rich people, and there will always be. But that doesn't mean their opinions are any more valid than the rest of us, it's just they seem to get more air time than the rest of us.".

These people are not seeking airtime, a journalist asked them questions and they answered. It's not their fault an article has been written about them. There's no evidence to show they think their opinion is worth any more than anyone else's.

El Siglo wrote: »

I didn't "put words in your mouth" as you keep retorting. I took your arguments and used inductive reasoning to retort your claims with the odd "straw-man" thrown in for good measure. You still haven't argued anything new, without it being completely contrived.

No you didn't, instead of taking my points at face value, you kept taking inferences that weren't there. I don't need to argue anything new, I only had two points I wanted to make about your post, and I've made them.

df1985

gazzer wrote: »

It was a rediculous article and a non story. Teenagers go on holiday and get drunk, fall down and have sex. It happens in just about any resort. Sure look at Santa Ponsa. They call that Ballymun in the sun and the same things go on so how the 'journalist' makes it that only rich people behave like that is beyond me.

exactly, i worked in las americas in tenerife for 3 summers, werent many D4 teenagers round there. skanger and bogger central, they behaved the exact same if not worse but that doesnt sell papers, and theyd complain about being picked on then.

A "D4" teenager sleeping around and getting drunk isnt bad when you see the fights some knackers from cork/dublin and limerick get into on holidays.

Mike 1972

Einhard wrote: »

To tell you the truth, the Daily Mail is actually more down market than the Sun. It just dresses itself up to appeal to a different section of society. One can still be middle class and read absolute tripe.

Are the bulk of the Daily Mails readership really "middle class" (whatever that means nowadays) ?

as Uncyclopedia put it

Often referred to as "Fascism with Oven Gloves on" The Daily Wail, also known variously as The Daily Hate, The Daily Heil, The Daily Bile, The Daily Hate Mail and The Daily Fail is a hugely popular British comic for those who believe themselves (usually mistakenly) to be members of the middle classes.

jonsnow

[quote=[Deleted User];66800261]You can do anything when you take stuff out of context. I wasn't an Irish teenager.[/QUOTE]

I never said you were.Are you implying that only posh Irish teenagers-as opposed to posh teenagers of other nationalities -are spoilt and entitled.Because that would be some stretch.

I,m sure that article took some things out of context too.

jonsnow

jonsnow wrote: »

I never said you were.Are you implying that only posh Irish teenagers-as opposed to posh teenagers of other nationalities -are spoilt and entitled.Because that would be some stretch.

I,m sure that article took some things out of context too.

I actually think the thing is is that middle class Irish teenagers THINK they're posh. Most of the people I was in college with didn't come from wealthier backgrounds than mine but for some reason they'd been brought up to think they were really special. A lot of the kids in my secondary schools in England and NI were children of consultants/directors/lawyers and most of them were working in the local factory at weekends to pay for any clothes or holidays they might have had. They just didn't have the same airs and graces or sense of entitlement as the Dublin teenagers I encountered. Obviously it has to do with the Celtic Tiger, but yes, I do think Irish teenagers are particularly spoiled and entitled.

thebaz

The_Minister wrote: »

Anyone else think that the Daily Mail just made this up?

yes - Rockford Manor is hardly posh , nor St.Mary's - just lazy summer journalism - a posh Blackrock college story will always sell a few more rags

MultiUmm

K-9 wrote: »

Indeed.

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"HAVE SINGLE MOTHERS MOLESTED THE ROYAL FAMILY?"

......

Gotta love that thing.

therokerroar

FFS, it's not as if prostitues in the Costa Del Sol are an expensive luxury. Even the 'poor' could easily afford them.

starbelgrade

One day a hooker went to file her taxes, and for occupation she put prostitution.

The tax collector explained that prostitution was an illegal occupation.

She said she'd have to go home and think about it and that she'd call him back in a hour with her occupation.

An hour later she called him and said, "I've got it... I'm a poultry farmer."

He said, "How do you get from prostitute to poultry farmer?."

She said, "I raise cocks for a living."

Tilt Gone

starbelgrade wrote: »

One day a hooker went to file her taxes, and for occupation she put prostitution.

The tax collector explained that prostitution was an illegal occupation.

She said she'd have to go home and think about it and that she'd call him back in a hour with her occupation.

An hour later she called him and said, "I've got it... I'm a poultry farmer."

He said, "How do you get from prostitute to poultry farmer?."

She said, "I raise cocks for a living."

ba dum kish!!

Mike 1972

starbelgrade wrote: »

The tax collector explained that prostitution was an illegal occupation.

No

NoHornJan

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