TDF: Stage 3 thread - spoil away! :)

papac

What a stage.
Well done Roche.
Hushovd deserved that free ride from Saxobank after yesterdays bullsh1t.

Vino dropped Contador. What an ass wipe.:D

NickDrake

Vino looking as strong as he did when he tested postive for someone elses blood. Looks like he is up to no good again.

Cheats should not be allowed back in

joker77

Roche up to 11th in the GC, nice.

Vino is some scumbag alright, ditching his leader like that

Andy Schleck's odds must have dropped now for an overall win - I know it's early days but still

Dodge

Calm down. he was 10th on a stage. I agree that bans should be permanent but no need to be stirring it up either.

Roche up to 11th in GC

A Schleck now has 31 seconds on Contador. Armstrong another 50 seconds behind

oflahero

papac wrote: »

Vino dropped Contador. What an ass wipe.:D

Yes, Contador was positively bulling as he crossed the line. He'll be one angry little man on the Astana team bus.

Agree with previous poster about an unexpectedly exciting first week of the Tour. I normally ignore it and wait for the first mountain stage, but this has been highly entertaining stuff for a change.

ednwireland

1. HUSHOVD Thor 95 CERVELO TEST TEAM 4h 49' 38"
2. THOMAS Geraint 39 SKY PRO CYCLING 4h 49' 38" + 00' 00"
3. EVANS Cadel 121 BMC RACING TEAM 4h 49' 38" + 00' 00"
4. HESJEDAL Ryder 54 GARMIN - TRANSITIONS 4h 49' 38" + 00' 00"
5. SCHLECK Andy 11 TEAM SAXO BANK 4h 49' 38" + 00' 00"
6. CANCELLARA Fabian 13 TEAM SAXO BANK 4h 49' 38" + 00' 00"
7. VAN SUMMEREN Johan 58 GARMIN - TRANSITIONS 4h 50' 31" + 00' 53"
8. WIGGINS Bradley 31 SKY PRO CYCLING 4h 50' 31" + 00' 53"
9. VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 101 OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO 4h 50' 31" + 00' 53"
10. VINOKOUROV Alexandre 9 ASTANA 4h 50' 31" + 00' 53"
11. MENCHOV Denis 191 RABOBANK 4h 50' 31" + 00' 53"
12. ROCHE Nicolas 81 AG2R LA MONDIALE 4h 50' 31" + 00' 53"
13. CONTADOR Alberto 1 ASTANA 4h 50' 51" + 01' 13"
32. ARMSTRONG Lance 21 TEAM RADIOSHACK 4h 51' 46" + 02' 08"
60. HINCAPIE George 126 BMC RACING TEAM 4h 52' 03" + 02' 25"
64. LEIPHEIMER Levi 25 TEAM RADIOSHACK 4h 52' 03" + 02' 25"
78. KLÖDEN Andréas 24 TEAM RADIOSHACK 4h 52' 03" + 02' 25"

some gaps there
good ride from andy schleck and brad wiggins and cadel

vino "i ride for the team " !

overall
1. CANCELLARA Fabian 13 TEAM SAXO BANK 14h 54' 00"
2.THOMAS Geraint 39 SKY PRO CYCLING 14h 54' 23" + 00' 23"
3. EVANS Cadel 121 BMC RACING TEAM 14h 54' 39" + 00' 39"
4. HESJEDAL Ryder 54 GARMIN - TRANSITIONS 14h 54' 46" + 00' 46"
5. CHAVANEL Sylvain 131 QUICK STEP 14h 55' 01" + 01' 01"
6. SCHLECK Andy 11 TEAM SAXO BANK 14h 55' 09" + 01' 09"
7. HUSHOVD Thor 95 CERVELO TEST TEAM 14h 55' 19" + 01' 19"
8. VINOKOUROV Alexandre 9 ASTANA 14h 55' 31" + 01' 31"
9. CONTADOR Alberto 1 ASTANA 14h 55' 40" + 01' 40"
10. VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 101 OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO 14h 55' 42" + 01' 42"
11. ROCHE Nicolas 81 AG2R LA MONDIALE 14h 55' 42" + 01' 42"
12. VAN SUMMEREN Johan 58 GARMIN - TRANSITIONS 14h 55' 47" + 01' 47"
13. MENCHOV Denis 191 RABOBANK 14h 55' 49" + 01' 49"
14. WIGGINS Bradley 31 SKY PRO CYCLING 14h 55' 49" + 01' 49"
18. ARMSTRONG Lance 21 TEAM RADIOSHACK 14h 56' 30" + 02' 30"
24. LEIPHEIMER Levi 25 TEAM RADIOSHACK 14h 56' 53" + 02' 53"
48. SASTRE Carlos 91 CERVELO TEST TEAM 14h 57' 19" + 03' 19"
49. BASSO Ivan 41 LIQUIGAS-DOIMO 14h 57' 20" + 03' 20"

Dodge

Hoshovd confirmed as in Green too. FUlly deserved too after yesterday's shambles

Hungrycol

This is hotting up to be a great TdF :D. Hope the drama continues....

NickDrake

Dodge wrote: »

Calm down. he was 10th on a stage. I agree that bans should be permanent but no need to be stirring it up either.

Roche up to 11th in GC

A Schleck now has 31 seconds on Contador. Armstrong another 50 seconds behind

Ya 10th on an epic stage. Showing fierce power. He was never really know as a classics style rider but showed it today. How can he still be so strong??? Looks jsut as strong as when he was doped.

Just shows how bad the testing is. I hate the guy. Such a cheat

Chips Lovell

Vino didn´t drop Contador. It looks like Contador punctured in the last kilometre and decided that rolling home on the flat was quicker than changing the wheel.

SubLuminal

Any updates on Frank Schleck? That crash looked naaasty, I thought I saw a lot of blood?

mloc123

http://twitter.com/lancearmstrong/status/17878407708

lance is upbeat

joker77

SubLuminal wrote: »

Any updates on Frank Schleck? That crash looked naaasty, I thought I saw a lot of blood?

Looks to be a broken collarbone anyway - http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/4781/Tour-de-France-Frank-Schleck-crashes-hard-on-the-cobblestones-abandons-race.aspx

bbosco

el tonto wrote: »

Vino didn´t drop Contador. It looks like Contador punctured in the last kilometre and decided that rolling home on the flat was quicker than changing the wheel.

Ah, makes a little more sense. Still though, no need for Vino to be out in front with the hammer down.

garminguy

that was one cracking stage to watch today!

anybody notice guy with" dirk hoffman motorhomes" sign?
spotted him at most of the northern classics this year.
craft free advertising!

ajk24

bbosco wrote: »

Ah, makes a little more sense. Still though, no need for Vino to be out in front with the hammer down.

from johnathon vaughters twitter

Vino's push was smart. Alberto flatted (2kms togo), so will be given the time of Vino's group. Therefor, the faster Vino went, the better.

petethedrummer

Evans doing well. Great to see. I think he'll win.....or come second again!

dave2pvd

Terrible way for Armstrong to lose time. Hate to see that.

Thor is a big winner today. If he can finish in one piece, the green jersey ought to be his. Only Cancellara could take it from him, Kelly-style.

Geraint Thomas is a rider to watch for the future. Hell of ride. Same goes for Hesjedal.

Great job by Roche.

Good pics here.

penexpers

ajk24 wrote: »

from johnathon vaughters twitter

Vino's push was smart. Alberto flatted (2kms togo), so will be given the time of Vino's group. Therefor, the faster Vino went, the better.

Makes sense, I had a vague recollection about their being a rule about that.

velo.2010

dave2pvd wrote: »

Terrible way for Armstrong to lose time. Hate to see that.

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Contador was brought to a stop by the crash while Armstrong got through. Surely that would have been unfair to Alberto to lose time that way(had LA not punctured) !

Edit; refering only to time gaps between AC and LA.

corkandproud

penexpers wrote: »

Makes sense, I had a vague recollection about their being a rule about that.

I thought that rule only applied to crashes, otherwise there's an incentive not to push out for the final 2k

Liamo08

Anybody know why Popovich didn't just give Armstrong his bike when Armstrong punctured? Surely would have saved Armstrong some time.

jwshooter

Liamo08 wrote: »

Anybody know why Popovich didn't just give Armstrong his bike when Armstrong punctured? Surely would have saved Armstrong some time.

he would have been on his own no one to pace him on ,brilant ride by armstrong ,some class to ride himself back on .

he looked strong today .

Liamo08

jwshooter wrote: »

he would have been on his own no one to pace him on ,brilant ride by armstrong ,some class to ride himself back on .

he looked strong today .

Would he not have been with the Contador group if he'd gotten Popo's bike though? Sorry was at work and didn't really see what happened.

Moflojo

I've just noticed that the festival of San Fermin begins in Pamplona tomorrow. Can't help but think that it would be safer to be running with the bulls than to be taking part in this year's Tour de France!

I've been trying to hunt down the stats to compare the injury rate during the Encierro with that of Le Tour 2010 but alas, I'm lazy. If someone else wants to take up that tangent be my guest!

ThisRegard

jwshooter wrote: »

he would have been on his own no one to pace him on ,brilant ride by armstrong ,some class to ride himself back on .

he looked strong today .

Yeah, isn't modern science wonderful ! ;-)

titan18

velo.2010 wrote: »

Contador was brought to a stop by the crash while Armstrong got through. Surely that would have been unfair to Alberto to lose time that way(had LA not punctured) !

Edit; refering only to time gaps between AC and LA.

LA lost time in the crash too,wasn't held up as much as others but was held up.

ROK ON

Some phenomenal rides today. In particular Evans and Contador. Roche Wiggins and Thomas did very very well.
Would liked to have seen Ryder stay away. Any way pretty exciting stuff.
I thought that Lancie baby did very well today spart from repeated punctures.

While Hesjedal, Hushovd, FC all did well, chapeau must go to Contador who despite his size was at the business end of things and didn't look out of his debt.

Dodge

NickDrake wrote: »

Ya 10th on an epic stage. Showing fierce power. He was never really know as a classics style rider but showed it today.

Vino was always a classics rider. WOn Liege Bastogne Liege about 5 years ago. Amstel gold even before that.

I'd go so far as to say that when he moved from classics to GC rider is when his problems started. (and again I'm not condoning him)



Lots of great rides todays. Evans showing his all round ability again. Thomas showing he's a bright future. COntador and Schleck with great rides for two slight frames. Even our own Roche hanging in there impressively. Hydersal cold ened up in top 10 GC too

NickDrake

Dodge wrote: »

Vino was always a classics rider. WOn Liege Bastogne Liege about 5 years ago. Amstel gold even before that.

I'd go so far as to say that when he moved from classics to GC rider is when his problems started. (and again I'm not condoning him)



Lots of great rides todays. Evans showing his all round ability again. Thomas showing he's a bright future. COntador and Schleck with great rides for two slight frames. Even our own Roche hanging in there impressively. Hydersal cold ened up in top 10 GC too

Was with Tmobile when he won those classics. They had a big blood doping programme. Google to see it. your knowledge is pretty poor. The man was a cheat back then as well and looks just as fit now. The man has no place in cycling anymore. he is a disgrace.

Photos of the guy looking very very easy when everyone else suffering. Disgrace

on_the_nickel

Lance passing on encouragement to an old teammate in his own inimitable way. He's a real gent...

http://is.gd/dhQLl

Chips Lovell

Why are you singling out just Vino?

niceonetom

I've seen it written somewhere, though I don't know if it's true, that LA never once punctured during his seven TDF wins. He was, in fairness, due.

I still dislike the man, but I'll admit that riding back on to the bunch to limit his losses was pretty badass.

I think the biggest winner today was Cadel Evans. Those seconds he got over LA and AC today could be very useful and I think he'll take at least as many of Schlek in the TT in Bordeaux. I'd bloody love to see him win.

Great to see Nico up there among the super elite too. If he is to get a good GC he'll need to get all the seconds he can on those kind of stages where there are bunch splits as he'll inevitably lose time on mountain finishes and the TT. I still think I'd like to see him give the leaders a few minutes and free himself to go for a stage win, but if he (and his team) have decided that GC si what he's there for then so be it.

Great stage though. This is going to be a great tour.

Raam

Wiggo jumps from 57th to 14th. 1.49 back.

Raam

on_the_nickel wrote: »

Lance passing on encouragement to an old teammate in his own inimitable way. He's a real gent...

http://is.gd/dhQLl

Ah a bit of trash talk never hurt anyone.

petethedrummer

on_the_nickel wrote: »

Lance passing on encouragement to an old teammate in his own inimitable way. He's a real gent...

http://is.gd/dhQLl

That's a caption competition if ever I saw one.

Slideshowbob

Bjarne Riis 6.7.2010 - "I'm not sure I'm a big fan of the cobbles in the Tour de France. It's stressful, and very dangerous. Even if we showed a great performance with Fabian and Andy today, I'm not sure that this is the right thing to do."

Slideshow Bob 7.7.2010 - "I'm not sure I'm a big fan of the doping in the Tour de France. It's stressful, and very dangerous. Even if it showed a great performance with riders, I'm not sure that this is the right thing to do."

Shut up Bjarne - I hope you get a job fitting Quick Step floors next year in some Belgian backwater

Chips Lovell

Farrar rode yesterday´s stage with a broken wrist.

ednwireland

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Shut up Bjarne - I hope you get a job fitting Quick Step floors next year in some Belgian backwater

how dare you insult quick step flooring

Raam

el tonto wrote: »

Farrar rode yesterday´s stage with a broken wrist.

I think Gesink rode with a fracture also. Some part of his arm.

kennyb3

Raam wrote: »

I think Gesink rode with a fracture also. Some part of his arm.

IIRC it's a fractured ulna

cantalach

In response to Armstrong's "sometimes you're the hammer and sometimes you're the nail" comment, somebody posted this comment to the Cycling News Facebook page:

Sometimes you ride like a contender on the centre of the pave, other times you ride like a noob on the sketchy verge. And sometimes you start the stage with appropriate box section alloy rims and other times you lose two minutes after having to take one off one of your teammates.

cantalach

papac wrote: »

Vino dropped Contador. What an ass wipe.:D

He broke a spoke and crossed the line with his back wheel rubbing - if you can hold a wheel at 50km/h in circumstances like this then fair play to you!

niceonetom

Why does LA have "UNITE" written on his wheel?

Was I the only one looking at that deep section carbon and thinking that it was really tempting fate to write that on it? surely it would snap in two.

bbosco

ajk24 wrote: »

from johnathon vaughters twitter

Vino's push was smart. Alberto flatted (2kms togo), so will be given the time of Vino's group. Therefor, the faster Vino went, the better.

The stage results listed on cyclingnews.com and letour.fr have Contador 20secs down on Vino's group. Not sure Vaughters is correct on that.

papac

cantalach wrote: »

He broke a spoke and crossed the line with his back wheel rubbing - if you can hold a wheel at 50km/h in circumstances like this then fair play to you!

In hindsight I may have been a bid hasty in condemning Vino. I had just seen the incident and thought he was doing a repeat of the Giro ttt. (Btw I meant Vino was an ass wipe- as opposed to Contador.)

The stage results listed on cyclingnews.com and letour.fr have Contador 20secs down on Vino's group. Not sure Vaughters is correct on that.

I don't think Vaughters is right either. In the heat of the moment though, if he wasn't sure, the (probably) correct call was to tell Vino to drive on imo.

mcgratheoin

Liamo08 wrote: »

Anybody know why Popovich didn't just give Armstrong his bike when Armstrong punctured? Surely would have saved Armstrong some time.

Wasn't there some rule yesterday about not being allowed to change bikes? THought I heard it mentioned somewhere but open to correction.

ednwireland

mcgratheoin wrote: »

Wasn't there some rule yesterday about not being allowed to change bikes? THought I heard it mentioned somewhere but open to correction.

you were only allowed to take bikes from the team car or a team mate you werent allowed to take bikes from a (non-riding) team member at the side of teh road (cancellara did this in paris roubaix after the last stretch of cobbles) there could be a motor in it !



Not the place for a rest

4 minute highlights
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/475905/tour-de-france-2010-video-stage-3-highlights.html

Raam

Why could they not take a team mates bike? They do that all the time, Andy took Breschel's bike the day before.

papac

Raam wrote: »

Why could they not take a team mates bike? They do that all the time, Andy took Breschel's bike the day before.

I don't know if there was a ban on bike changing yesterday but it would make a certain amount of sense. In the absence of such a ban they could just change to a specially set up cobbles bike at the start of each (or the longer) pave sections.Just a thought.