Stage 9 - Tuesday, July 13 2010, Morzine-Avoriaz - Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne

mloc123

mloc123 wrote: »

Anyone have a eurosport stream?

Found one: http://www.iraqgoals.tv/ch3.html

Dodge

Hushovd did indeed get the 6 points

Pineau also took the 3 points on offer for going over the Cat 4 climb

just about to tackle the First Cat 1 climb of the day and the pace has averaged 53km/hour...

Hermy

Dodge wrote: »

God I love Thos Hushovd. He's involved in a breakway with some good/great climbers to get 6 points in the Green jersey race.

+1
No doubt he'll stick with them till the base of the Madeleine for the other sprint bonus.:pac:

Dodge

Vinokourov and Horner have attacked the peleton. I can't believe i won't get to see this stage now (that link above doesn'tt work for me)

I don't think Thosr will make it up the two cat 1 climbs with these leaders. I reckon he's done his job for the day.

The sprint was uncotested and he gave the rest of the breaka big thumbs up. Apparently he was working hard to establish the gap

niceonetom

Dodge wrote: »

God I love Thos Hushovd. He's involved in a breakway with some good/great climbers to get 6 points in the Green jersey race. He should get over the Cat 4 climb, win the points and then let the bus take him the rest of the way...

The break so far;
Jerome Pineau (QuickStep), Thos Hushovd (Cevelo), Jens Voigt (Saxo Bank), Cyril Gautier (Bbox), Luis Leon Sanchez (Caisse d'Epargne) , Jose Ivan Gutierrez (Caisse d'Epargne), Christophe Moreau (Caisse d'Epargne), Sandy Casar ( FdJ), Rinaldo Nocentini (AG2R), Johannes Fröhlinger (Milram), Anthony Charteau ( Bbox).

+1. It worked for Thor last year. I like to see a sprinter who can do more than just follow a train in the last 10km. Cav is already gone out the back.

That's a strong breakaway and they're taking time. It's interesting to see Voigt on the front on the break pushing it and Berghardt trying to control the gap for Evans. SaxoBank: our german is stronger than yours. Tactically it makes sense if they want to take the jersey off BMC today, Cadel will be alone even earlier than usual. If they keep at it they could force Astana into break control duty before they want it.

And now Vino's trying to get across. :eek:

I already said S. Sanchez and I'll stick with it.

NickDrake

Looks like Vino got his usual rest day top up and those cheering him on are a disgrace.

It will be interesting to see who got the usual rest day blood top up yesterday.

Chips Lovell

I'm coming around to the opinion that riders themselves matter as much as the parcours. A stage like today could actually encourage people to attack early, since attack in the last 2km of the last climb is useless unless you have a mountaintop finish.

petethedrummer wrote: »

Ok, name your winner time: Vinokourov.
(pick one, no ifs and buts)

Sanchez. Samuel, not Luis Leon.

Chips Lovell

GO VINO!

Dodge

Vino's been caught. Brajkovic and Cunego 9and others) counter attacked.

Lead group still has 2 and a half minutes on (quickly thinning) peleton

DDC1990

Cá bhfuil Niclás De Róiste? Im Watching TG4 so im going to use the bit of Gaeilge.

Wheres Nicholas Roche? just in case :P

Liamo08

If that other link is not working for anyone try this one:

http://atdhe.net/21084/watch-tour-de-france

nerraw1111

What time (irish time) are the riders expected to arrive at the start of the final climb?

ednwireland

time schedules here (take an hour off for irish time

http://www.letour.fr/2010/TDF/LIVE/us/900/etape_par_etape.html


click on time shedule tab

Cape Clear

DDC1990 wrote: »

Cá bhfuil Niclás De Róiste? Im Watching TG4 so im going to use the bit of Gaeilge.

Wheres Nicholas Roche? just in case :P

As lathair! By the looks of things

barrabus

DDC1990 wrote: »

Cá bhfuil Niclás De Róiste? Im Watching TG4 so im going to use the bit of Gaeilge.

Wheres Nicholas Roche? just in case :P

virtual 17th

Cape Clear

Go raibh maith agat!

Lumen

Dodge wrote: »

Vino's been caught

Ah, not again surely?

Leroy42

Tinyexplosions, I think we can mark Voeckler of the list of potential winners!!!

NickDrake

Schlek getting advice out the window from Bjarne Riis his Director. How can a man whose career was totally ruled by doping. This was a guy who was an average rider who turned into a beast by drug abuse.

Mr. 60%. So how can this guy be trusted as a director?? Does not bode well for Andy?

We all know Frank Schlek gave Dr. Funetus 250k for "training plans"

TinyExplosions

Leroy42 wrote: »

Tinyexplosions, I think we can mark Voeckler of the list of potential winners!!!

And the Deadly TinyExplosions curse strikes again! I bet Contador will win this year (lets see if that jinx's him now)

NickDrake wrote: »

Schlek getting advice out the window from Bjarne Riis his Director. How can a man whose career was totally ruled by doping. This was a guy who was an average rider who turned into a beast by drug abuse.

Mr. 60%. So how can this guy be trusted as a director?? Does not bode well for Andy?

We all know Frank Schlek gave Dr. Funetus 250k for "training plans"

In the same way that Brunyeel, and most of the other DS's can be trusted, ie, you turn a blind eye

NickDrake

TinyExplosions wrote: »

And the Deadly TinyExplosions curse strikes again! I bet Contador will win this year (lets see if that jinx's him now)



In the same way that Brunyeel, and most of the other DS's can be trusted, ie, you turn a blind eye

Riis was one of the worst dopers though. They guy was famous for it. EVERYTHING about his career was based on EPO. How can he change?

Chips Lovell

Remind me what Bruyneel's nickname was again?

Caroline_ie

Mmmmm le col de la Madeleine always reminds me of:

Chips Lovell

How very Proustian

Dodge

So any cycilsts you do like NickDrake?

NickDrake

Dodge wrote: »

So any cycilsts you do like NickDrake?

I don't like dopers. I am not into Vino and contadope. Their history is tarnished like many more i'm afraid.

Evans for me and Roche. Great riders. Also like Basso now as his blood values show he is clean on the blood front anyway. (google it if you don't know what I mean)

Dodge

NickDrake wrote: »

Basso

:eek::eek:

Sure any high ground you were on is gone with this.

Inquitus

ROK ON wrote: »

Slightly OT but pertaining to Toms desire to have mountaintop finishes. The current TDF route organised is toying with the idea of avoiding all major climbs in Alps and Pyrenees and have lots and lots of hilly and mid mountain stages. Idea is to have a tour of breakaways where's any of 20 guys could be in with a serious chance of winning. Its a few years away, but I think it would be worth the experiment.

I hope this doesn't come to pass, nothing beats the drama of a mountain top finish. It is one of the greatest spectacles in Sport imo.

TinyExplosions

NickDrake wrote: »

I don't like dopers. I am not into Vino and contadope. Their history is tarnished like many more i'm afraid.

Evans for me and Roche. Great riders. Also like Basso now as his blood values show he is clean on the blood front anyway. (google it if you don't know what I mean)

Well, at least you're consistent, hating Vino and Basso... no wait, you aren't consistent.... oops!

NickDrake

Dodge wrote: »

:eek::eek:

Sure any high ground you were on is gone with this.

I told you to google his Giro Blood values. Has the same coach as Evans. Dont comment on it when you havent researched it. Makes you look silly

NickDrake

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Well, at least you're consistent, hating Vino and Basso... no wait, you aren't consistent.... oops!

See blood values. do a bit of research. its not all black and white.

Seems the Caisse Daparge boys got a nice refill yesterday

NickDrake

There goes Vino just like a few years ago on that Alpine stage and look what happened after that. Tested positive for someone elses blood. Maybe he didint mix up the bags this time though

kennyb3

NickDrake wrote: »

I told you to google his Giro Blood values. Has the same coach as Evans. Dont comment on it when you havent researched it. Makes you look silly

oh right so just because he 'may' be clean now means he is a good guy and good for cycling. you're the one sounding silly

Dodge

NickDrake wrote: »

I told you to google his Giro Blood values. Has the same coach as Evans. Dont comment on it when you havent researched it. Makes you look silly

yep, without dount I'm the silly one here.

NickDrake wrote:

Riis was one of the worst dopers though. They guy was famous for it. EVERYTHING about his career was based on EPO. How can he change?

NickDrake wrote:

Also like Basso now as his blood values show he is clean on the blood front anyway

Don't patronise me either. I'm well aware of how both riders operate. That I don't come out with BS like yours is purely down to research...

NickDrake

kennyb3 wrote: »

oh right so just because he 'may' be clean now means he is a good guy and good for cycling. you're the one sounding silly

At least he is riding clean now and not continuing to dope. You obviously didn't read his blood values. totally dropped during the Giro , unlike Lance for example whose increased in le Tour 09 which is physically impossible

NickDrake

Dodge wrote: »

yep, without dount I'm the silly one here.





Don't patronise me either. I'm well aware of how both riders operate. That I don't come out with BS like yours is purely down to research...

What BS? You telling me their clean? Come off it man. your the one with the BS if you believe Vino is clean and Riis is fair Dir.

Chips Lovell

Oh dear...

kennyb3

NickDrake wrote: »

At least he is riding clean now and not continuing to dope.

Yeah clean for now.

NickDrake wrote: »

You obviously didn't read his blood values. totally dropped during the Giro , unlike Lance for example whose increased in le Tour 09 which is physically impossible

Has nothing to do with anything. My point is dopers shouldnt be welcomed back into cycling - ever.

NickDrake

kennyb3 wrote: »

Yeah clean for now.



Has nothing to do with anything. My point is dopers shouldnt be welcomed back into cycling - ever.

Fair enough. I agree with you there. the peleton would be a thin place. Fair amount welcomed back

Dodge

NickDrake wrote: »

What BS? You telling me their clean? Come off it man. your the one with the BS if you believe Vino is clean and Riis is fair Dir.

Where did I post anything like this? if you read any of my posts on doping you'll know how I feel. Do a bit of research before posting, its makes you look silly :rolleyes:

NickDrake

Dodge wrote: »

Where did I post anything like this? if you read any of my posts on doping you'll know how I feel. Do a bit of research before posting, its makes you look silly :rolleyes:

Well refering to my posts as BS hinted you didnt think I was stating facts about blood top ups.

Crap stage by the way. Boys doing nothing

Raedwald

Dopers should never be allowed back into cycling or any other sport for that matter after being caught.

Puts a tarnish on anything they have ever done or will ever do.

I dont like riders like basso, miller, vino et al who have served their bans and come back into the sport and now profess to be clean and anti-doping.

One thing I will say is that I will continue to watch the sport and follow riders like contador and armstrong who have never failed drug tests and have had very little proved against them despite utterences to the contrary by former team-mates, press etc.

petethedrummer

I love a doping debate but this is a stage thread. updates please. my eurosport audio won't work and the ticker is too slow.

NickDrake

Raedwald wrote: »

Dopers should never be allowed back into cycling or any other sport for that matter after being caught.

Puts a tarnish on anything they have ever done or will ever do.

I dont like riders like basso, miller, vino et al who have served their bans and come back into the sport and now profess to be clean and anti-doping.

One thing I will say is that I will continue to watch the sport and follow riders like contador and armstrong who have never failed drug tests and have had very little proved against them despite utterences to the contrary by former team-mates, press etc.

Has to be the funniest thing I have read in years. Ullrich never tested positive and his coach/assistant admitted last week he doped a LOT.

joker77

petethedrummer wrote: »

I love a doping debate but this is a stage thread. updates please. my eurosport audio won't work and the ticker is too slow.

This not work for you pete - http://www.fromsport.com/v-0/0/148/v-14923.html ?

TinyExplosions

NickDrake wrote: »

See blood values. do a bit of research. its not all black and white.

Seems the Caisse Daparge boys got a nice refill yesterday

NickDrake wrote: »

At least he is riding clean now and not continuing to dope. You obviously didn't read his blood values. totally dropped during the Giro , unlike Lance for example whose increased in le Tour 09 which is physically impossible

So the only doping you care about at all is blood doping?

And you presume that because your blood values are consistent since his return from a ban, that there can be absolutely no suspicion whatsoever of him?

You keep saying to 'research blood values' -can you show me the anomalies in Vinos from this year to support your assertion that Basso is clean and Vino's not?

-As for the stage, Jens has finally dropped off the back of the breakaway -superb ride from him today, such a classy rider.

Vinos on the attack and have 30 secs or so on the Peloton, that has all the faves in it. Haven't seen Roche yet, presume he's in the bunch

Dodge

petethedrummer wrote: »

I love a doping debate but this is a stage thread. updates please. my eurosport audio won't work and the ticker is too slow.

Agreed. Leaving it alone now everyone has been over this ground time & time again (which beofre I got suckered in was going to be my original point)

DirkVoodoo

Shame this isn't a mountain top finish, someone needs to put a match under this powder keg!

Come on Alberto!

Guybrush T

Roche dropped out the back of the Peloton

Dodge

Roche has been dropped by the leaders peleton