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No BER rating on rented property

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  • 12-07-2010 7:18pm
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    Builderfromhell
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    I had been looking to rent a house for months and finally found one.
    The interesting thing is the houses listed for rent on Daft.ie do not mention a BER rating. You would have thought that if they had a good BER rating that would be a selling point. None of the auctioneers mentioned a BER rating when showing the property.
    The house we finally decided to rent is about 10 years old. We figured it would be warmer than older houses. We never asked for or got a BER rating.

    All of this makes me wonder what is the point of BER other than funding SEI.


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    d'Oracle
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    Builderfromhell wrote: »
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    All of this makes me wonder what is the point of BER other than funding SEI.

    A great deal.

    The important bit is that we don't live in a communist country. SEAI can't force the market consider variables which it doesn't consider and I would point out that if you didn't even ask for one at the viewing stage, its hardly SEAI's fault. I mean if the energy rating and therefore how cheap it is to heat is important to you, you would ask.

    The BER should be in place when the lease is signed.
    If you never got a BER the law has been broken, but obviously not by yourself.

    And no offence, but knowing whats been going on for the last while I would not go for a 10 year old house.


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    muffler
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    Builderfromhell wrote: »
    All of this makes me wonder what is the point of BER other than funding SEI.
    Building control has responsibility for the enforcement of this afiak.


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    No6
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    muffler wrote: »
    Building control has responsibility for the enforcement of this afiak.
    And they don't enforce it so to answer the first question there is no point in the system without enforcement!!


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    galwaytt
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    Builderfromhell wrote: »
    I had been looking to rent a house for months and finally found one.
    The interesting thing is the houses listed for rent on Daft.ie do not mention a BER rating. You would have thought that if they had a good BER rating that would be a selling point. None of the auctioneers mentioned a BER rating when showing the property.
    The house we finally decided to rent is about 10 years old. We figured it would be warmer than older houses. We never asked for or got a BER rating.

    All of this makes me wonder what is the point of BER other than funding SEI.

    A couple of things come to mind....
    1. Daft.ie, etc, are only advertisers - they can't force anyone to put in a BER, and don't want to turn away any paying client (ad..)
    2. I think economics has a bigger say in the issue than anything else. People have XX to spend, per month, and therefore BER will do what........apart from making high BER houses more expensive........which puts you back to square 1....
    3. ..don't forget location, location, location...........that will have bigger influence than BER, too.

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    d'Oracle
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    The only way BER will increase the rental value of a house is if people learn to consider a high BER as an increase in value.

    You need landlords to go "My house has a good BER, so it must be worth more."
    Then you need tennants to go "this house is worth higher rent cos of its BER"

    There is no evidence of this happening.
    There is also no reason to believe this will happen if BER is used as in advertisement . So assuming that it will make things more expensive is a bit of a big step.

    Also, if people have XX to spend a month, then they would do well to pay attention to the BER as generally a better BER will mean less money spent on heating the house.
    Obviously, Location is still the primary factor for renters/purchasers.
    But I personally would like to see BER made available as part of the selection process.


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    muffler
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    mark sim wrote: »
    The person who rent the house or sell the house is required to get an energy rating carried out or and to provide prospective ,reliable and recommended buyer or tenants on Ber rating on rented property.this will help to acknowledge on Ber rating increase or decrease issue as well.
    The thread was started 364 days ago and Im sure the OP has been sorted by now.

    Please dont grave dig old threads

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