Bohemian FC V TNS - Champions League KO 7.45

CSF

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This **** needs to be liked.

Raskolnikov

You have to feel for the Bohs fans. From what I heard, they outnumbered and out-sung the TNS fans in their own backyard, yet were thoroughly trashed.

I don't think we'll have too many LOI fan-boi's comparing the league to the English Championship or Celtic and Rangers after this!

CSF

Raskolnikov wrote: »

You have to feel for the Bohs fans. From what I heard, they outnumbered and out-sung the TNS fans in their own backyard, yet were thoroughly trashed.

I don't think we'll have too many LOI fan-boi's comparing the league to the English Championship or Celtic and Rangers after this!

Funny you mention Celtic because......

stovelid

Raskolnikov wrote: »

I don't think we'll have too many LOI fan-boi's comparing the league to the English Championship or Celtic and Rangers after this!

Run along now.

We're gloating about a team in our league.

Your presence isn't required as it's none of your business.

dreamers75

Raskolnikov wrote: »

I don't think we'll have too many LOI fan-boi's comparing the league to the English Championship or Celtic and Rangers after this!

/sticks hand up.

My team won more games in Europe in the last 2 years then Scotland and Championship combined.

Now i have to watch as every other team in the league undos the ranking we won them.

Whos next on the embarassing us trip? oh its Rovers cmon the Hoops do us proud.

eightyfish

applehunter wrote: »

Spoilt bastards is what they are.

Lay off. I've been a Bohs supporter for years and I feel embarrassed by this result, but I'd never gloat at another Irish team's failed efforts in Europe.

djpbarry

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Same team or not, the LoI is getting worse by the year

Which would explain why the LOI has been climbing the UEFA rankings over the last few years.

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Let's face it thats a pathetic result. I think the glory days for Irish clubs are now over and we'll see more cricket scores in the years to come.:(

It is a pathetic result, but it's just that: a result. We can no more judge the standard of the league based on Boh's performance tonight than we can based on Pats win against Krylya Sovetov last season.

applehunter

eightyfish wrote: »

Lay off. I've been a Bohs supporter for years and I feel embarrassed by this result, but I'd never gloat at another Irish team's failed efforts in Europe.

I didn't gloat.

I was referring to the thread on the Bohs forum.

No team has a divine right to win a match, especially in the Champions League and even more so if you are an Irish team in the Champions League.

CiaranC

eightyfish wrote: »

Lay off. I've been a Bohs supporter for years and I feel embarrassed by this result, but I'd never gloat at another Irish team's failed efforts in Europe.

Bohs fans have spent the last few years gloating about everything under the sun, including celebrating the near extinction of Rovers and Shels, glorifying Louis Kilcoyne, supporting the GAA against us, the loss of Milltown, homelessness etc. ad infinitum.

Honestly, dont expect much sympathy. Youd be better placed figuring out how you are going to pay off the overdraft that paid for your fleeting success.

eightyfish

applehunter wrote: »

No team has a divine right to win a match, especially in the Champions League and even more so if you are an Irish team in the Champions League.

I see what you mean from that thread. I was hesitant to talk about the Belgian team until we got past total network solutions, which most people presumed would not be a problem. Boy were they wrong.

Feels like such a let-down, after so many nights spent as a paid spectator. Not just to be defeated, but to be defeated so embarrassingly. I presume we'll get over it, but not for along while.

eightyfish

CiaranC wrote: »

Honestly, dont expect much sympathy

Of course I don't expect sympathy, but don't judge all the fans by the vocal ones. I'm going to support every Irish team in Europe be it us or Rovers or anybody else. We are enemies when we play each other but clansmen when we play abroad.

major bill

some of the comments are fcuking priceless and really makes ye wonder do people understand football atall.

firstly i seen TNS in dublin last week and they are a good side but bohs should have had enough to beat them by more than one goal in the home leg.
players have been moaning about their bonus all week very suspicious that it happens to be in the same week as a very important CL game imo they can all go in sh1te if they had a brain they would have waited til after this game.
as i mentioned above i think this had an effect on the game tonight,i dont think the players give a **** anymore and pat fenlon looks set to leave another club royaly fcuked finacially.the result tonight was an embarrassment and an insult to every person that works so hard at bohs and every fan that goes week in week out.

on a positive note bohs should have a very big away support in bray on friday.:mad:

CSF

major bill wrote: »

some of the comments are fcuking priceless and really makes ye wonder do people understand football atall.

Like which?

major bill

Raskolnikov wrote: »

You have to feel for the Bohs fans. From what I heard, they outnumbered and out-sung the TNS fans in their own backyard, yet were thoroughly trashed.

I don't think we'll have too many LOI fan-boi's comparing the league to the English Championship or Celtic and Rangers after this!

cos celtic and rangers have never lost heavely to so called ''bad sides'' in europe kaunas and artmedia come to mind.

ye cant compare one off day result and make assumptions on a league as a whole.

major bill

CSF wrote: »

Like which?

some people seem to think bohs should have strolled by them cos they were welsh.:rolleyes:

CSF

major bill wrote: »

some people seem to think bohs should have strolled by them cos they were welsh.:rolleyes:

They should have.

super_furry

Like I said earlier, it was a reserve Gretna.

major bill

CSF wrote: »

They should have.

Thats a very ignorant comment to make:rolleyes: yes we should have beat them as i still think we were a better footballing side but what were you expecting a walkover, they were a professional team strong at the back dangerous on the counter attack, they would beat most irish sides on there day.

pablomakaveli

djpbarry wrote: »

It is a pathetic result, but it's just that: a result. We can no more judge the standard of the league based on Boh's performance tonight than we can based on Pats win against Krylya Sovetov last season.

But we also had Dundalk getting hammered 6-0 last week which does'nt help the league either. But your right it probably should be judged on it's own rather than as a reflection on the league as a whole.

Hopefully Shams and Fingal will restore the leagues pride.

stovelid

major bill wrote: »

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cos celtic and rangers have never lost heavely to so called ''bad sides'' in europe kaunas and artmedia come to mind.

ye cant compare one off day result and make assumptions on a league as a whole.

You know what's like. They hate the LOI but have to keep tabs on it just n case a team from the league does a Rosenborg and they're caught short by not supporting them. Then they can spoof down the local to the "Scousers" and the "Mancs" that they always knew the score and Ireland is where it's at.

djpbarry

pablomakaveli wrote: »

But we also had Dundalk getting hammered 6-0 last week which does'nt help the league either.

True enough - it's not been a good European season so far. But Rovers and Fingal are still well in with a shout in their ties and maybe Dundalk can restore some pride on Thursday (although I doubt it).

Ferris_Bueller

After seeing this thread had 15 pages I had a feeling things didn't go so well.. But 4-0:eek:

dfx-

I really really have to ignore the temptation of this thread until Thursday:(

Paul Tergat

Was very disappointed seeing the updates on here with the goals banging in. After going to the first leg I hoped Bohs would at least put up a fight but its a real shame not to see them at least go to the next round.

CSF

major bill wrote: »

Thats a very ignorant comment to make:rolleyes: yes we should have beat them as i still think we were a better footballing side but what were you expecting a walkover, they were a professional team strong at the back dangerous on the counter attack, they would beat most irish sides on there day.

Its not an ignorant comment to make. Bohs are have much better players at their disposal, on a much bigger budget, full-time too. They were the seeded team, they should have knocked out TNS relative comfortably. Thats not to say that the reverse was an impossibility, the opposite was proven tonight, these events are called upsets. But that doesn't take away from the fact that Bohs should have knocked this team out and they'll know that just as much as I do

CiaranC

dfx- wrote: »

I really really have to ignore the temptation of this thread until Thursday:(

**** it, make hay while the sun shines I say

major bill

CSF wrote: »

Its not an ignorant comment to make. Bohs are have much better players at their disposal, on a much bigger budget, full-time too. They were the seeded team, they should have knocked out TNS relative comfortably. Thats not to say that the reverse was an impossibility, the opposite was proven tonight, these events are called upsets. But that doesn't take away from the fact that Bohs should have knocked this team out and they'll know that just as much as I do

first of all they are Full time i suspect every one hasnt a clue what sort of budget they have its all persumptions on this board.just cause they were from wales didnt mean they were gonna be easy or that they were a pub team.

stovelid

dfx- wrote: »

I really really have to ignore the temptation of this thread until Thursday:(

If it happens(ed) to us, the gloating would be ten-fold. Fuck it, so.

skeleton_boy

Shocking result for the league. Come on Rovers & Fingal, do us proud.

gimmick

Trying to figure which reverse was more embarrassing - Longfords effort against Camarthen a few years ago, or this. of course CCFC did not cover themselves in glory against FC Haka a few years ago either.

TheBigLebowski

The big club. Tee hee!

mike65

The plastic pitch was fingered on radio this morning but I dunno how true that is. Of coure if you know you will have to play on such a surface a bit of training on same would seem like a good idea. Was there anywhere Bohs could have played in Dublin?

Pinturicchio

mike65 wrote: »

The plastic pitch was fingered on radio this morning but I dunno how true that is. Of coure if you know you will have to play on such a surface a bit of training on same would seem like a good idea. Was there anywhere Bohs could have played in Dublin?

They don't lose 4-0 every time they play away to Dundalk.

LuckyLloyd

major bill wrote: »

first of all they are Full time i suspect every one hasnt a clue what sort of budget they have its all persumptions on this board.just cause they were from wales didnt mean they were gonna be easy or that they were a pub team.

I agree with you when you say they were a full time outfit and, as such, couldn't be completely clueless. However, you really need to take into account the fact that they only recently started into pre season training and would be expected to have nowhere near the same amount of match sharpness as a Bohs side well into the grind of their season.

Moreover, in terms of European experience, the Bohs squad were far advanced in comparison to TNS. From a betting perspective when you consider all the factors (coaching / playing ability / fitness / experience) Bohs would have been strong favourites to progress from the tie, and to lose in the manner they did would have been hugely unexpected.

I have no interest in gloating though, I am aware of the seriousness of the potential ramifications of this defeat. But that is always the reality when walking the high wire like Bohs have done the past few seasons. I'd imagine a lot of your frustration will stem from the players not giving an effort commensurate to the importance of the game for the club as a whole.

LuckyLloyd

Anyway, I'll be there tomorrow night hoping Sporting Fingal can capitalize on a good away result to a very decent side. If Fingal and Rovers can take both ties down to the wire there will have been some positives from the week as a whole.

homerjay2005

disappointing result, will set the LOI european challenge back a bit if results dont go our way in the remaining 3 games.

really feel sorry for bohs and their fans, this is a game they should be winning, must have just had a total off night.

hopefully one of the other teams can pull off a result, Fingal have a huge chance.

dfx-

gimmick wrote: »

Trying to figure which reverse was more embarrassing - Longfords effort against Camarthen a few years ago, or this. of course CCFC did not cover themselves in glory against FC Haka a few years ago either.

I still think Longford. They were still winning the tie at half-time at 1-1 and then lost 5-1.

Walsh

I think Bohs will be down in the Graveyard next season...

CiaranC

dfx- wrote: »

I still think Longford. They were still winning the tie at half-time at 1-1 and then lost 5-1.

Maybe if Longford were twice league champions, halfway through their season and shelling out twenty grand a week on wages.

pablomakaveli

mike65 wrote: »

The plastic pitch was fingered on radio this morning but I dunno how true that is. Of coure if you know you will have to play on such a surface a bit of training on same would seem like a good idea. Was there anywhere Bohs could have played in Dublin?

I think Pat Fenlon himself said the excuse of the plastic pitch was bollocks. Although there were questions raised over whether the venue itself was suitable for a CL match in terms of the seating set up.

Töpher

gimmick wrote: »

Trying to figure which reverse was more embarrassing - Longfords effort against Camarthen a few years ago, or this. of course CCFC did not cover themselves in glory against FC Haka a few years ago either.

One of those sides doesn't exist any more, so a coin toss should be all that's required really.

Zebra3

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Although there were questions raised over whether the venue itself was suitable for a CL match in terms of the seating set up.

Which in itself is no way relevant to the result.

CSF

1 day later and theres still only one song that comes to mind when I think of this match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WccfbPQNMbg

theteal

homerjay2005 wrote: »

disappointing result, will set the LOI european challenge back a bit if results dont go our way in the remaining 3 games.

really feel sorry for bohs and their fans, this is a game they should be winning, must have just had a total off night.

hopefully one of the other teams can pull off a result, Fingal have a huge chance.

don't let it get you down, we'll be back next season* restoring the coefficient and the league's rep in europe . . .might end up with a relegation scare again tho

*counting chickens

stovelid

theteal wrote: »

don't let it get you down, we'll be back next season* restoring the coefficient and the league's rep in europe . . .might end up with a relegation scare again tho

*counting chickens

There is definitely the making of another smug, small-time banner in there somewhere.

dfx-

Total No Show

The New Shels - my favourite:)

They'd No Spine

Het-Field

Does this mean Bohemians are about to go the way of Shelbourne, Cork City, and Derry City ? Am I right in hearing that Bohs were hedging their bets on Champions League & NL Prizemoney to sustain themselves ? Now that one source is gone, and the other appears to be going, are Bohs fecked ?

frantic190

Het-Field wrote: »

Does this mean Bohemians are about to go the way of Shelbourne, Cork City, and Derry City ? Am I right in hearing that Bohs were hedging their bets on Champions League & NL Prizemoney to sustain themselves ? Now that one source is gone, and the other appears to be going, are Bohs fecked ?

Not to mention Rovers.

The media are bigging it up big time, Bohs are ok for this season, they just really needed the money from the CL so they can start to pay back the loan to Zurich.

The club would never have been allowed to budget for progression in the CL, just like they were not allowed to budget for 3rd in the league. The only thing I can see happening here is attendances dropping off big time, all the band wagoners and part-time fans will no doubt **** off after this.

Certainly this will harm the club financially in the long term, and it may go the way of Rovers and Shels, but not in the short term.

If the club can't repay the loan the car park across from the Jodi stand will be re-possessed, which will also put a dent in the income.

It certainly looks like the option of full-time football next season is fading away.

stovelid

frantic190 wrote: »

It certainly looks like the option of full-time football next season is fading away.

Taken the club long enough to wake up to that pearl of wisdom hasn't it?

And even them it will have been forced upon you.

dreamers75

dfx- wrote: »

The New Shels - my favourite:)

Hmm where did you see that one


Maldron showing the game tonight for any hoopers.


Cmon lads believe!!!! i know its one 1-1 from the 1st leg but you have the away goal now finish the tie