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Pizza Hut "student ID discount" problem

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  • 13-07-2010 12:20pm
    #1
    Matt Bauer
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    Recently, I went to Pizza Hut with a friend, who is a student. They had an offer for 20% off for students. Before we ordered, we asked if this was valid with an Irish student card as the Pizza Hut in question was in China. They took my friends student card to check with a manager, before coming back to us to confirm that yes it was.

    However, when it came time to pay, they changed their minds and suddenly said they only accept Chinese student cards, and even those have to be from certain "approved" Chinese universities.

    Suffice to say, after having been a Pizza Hut customer in Ireland for years, I do not plan to frequent their restaurants anymore.


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    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    First time I've seen a restaurant in China in this forum :)

    I can see their point

    Not even Bus Eireann accept student cards, it has to be their own approved card, USIT did it back in my day.
    Irish Rail is the same. That's the rules and we go with them. There is an approved list too to get a card

    A company has no way of verifying your student card, they have never heard of Limerick or Waterford or wherever you go to college. Maybe they never heard of Ireland.

    Boycotting Pizza Hut Ireland over what happened in Pizza Hut China?
    Calm down, it's a bit much.
    If you've been a happy customer until now, they don't lose out over this incident.

    And maybe ask Pizza Hut Ireland if they accept a Chinese student card, they have the same issues with checking it as you encountered in China with an Irish student card.


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    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Why do people feel the need to use works like robbed when that is clearly not the case? You were not robbed, you were mislead.

    Why also would you boycott the presumably good service provided to you by Pizza Hut Ireland (since you've been using them for years) because of a single incident that happened in a foreign country where the language difference could have played a big part in the incident.

    If this is how you over react to any such minor incident, I'd hate to see what happens if something serious were to happen. You should calm down a bit.


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    Matt Bauer
    Registered Users Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Matt Bauer


    I have no problem with them not accepting Irish student cards.

    The issue is that they took the student card and brought it to a manager before we ordered anything, and came back to confirm that yes indeed, they will be accepting it. But when it came time to pay, they changed their minds.

    That's my only issue. It's like if I go to a restaurant and accept that I will pay, but than when I finish eating I change my mind.

    As far as boycotting Pizza Hut in Ireland, they belong to the same parent company don't they?


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    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Matt Bauer wrote: »
    Recently, I went to Pizza Hut with a friend, who is a student. They had an offer for 20% off for students. Before we ordered, we asked if this was valid with an Irish student card as the Pizza Hut in question was in China. They took my friends student card to check with a manager, before coming back to us to confirm that yes it was.

    However, when it came time to pay, they changed their minds and suddenly said they only accept Chinese student cards, and even those have to be from certain "approved" Chinese universities.

    Suffice to say, after having been a Pizza Hut customer in Ireland for years, I do not plan to frequent their restaurants anymore.

    Thats normal,

    NS (Nationaal Spoorwegen) in the Netherlands, don't accept foreign student cards for rail tickets.


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    Matt Bauer
    Registered Users Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Matt Bauer


    jor el wrote: »
    Why do people feel the need to use works like robbed when that is clearly not the case? You were not robbed, you were mislead.

    That's why I put it in quotation marks...


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    rebel_rebel
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    god good I cant believe I wasted 30 seconds of life reading that! what a petty argument.whens the book coming out?!


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    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Matt Bauer wrote: »
    As far as boycotting Pizza Hut in Ireland, they belong to the same parent company don't they?

    Pizza Hut is a franchise. Even the stores in Ireland may not be under the same ownership. Even if they were under the same ownership, boycotting them all because of a tiny incident such as this would be rather ridiculous.
    Matt Bauer wrote: »
    That's why I put it in quotation marks...

    So you knew you weren't robbed, but wanted to say it anyway so as to have a more dramatic effect? That makes it even worse.


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    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Matt Bauer wrote: »
    As far as boycotting Pizza Hut in Ireland, they belong to the same parent company don't they?

    Yes but they are franchises.
    If you're happy with Pizza Hut Ireland then use them.

    Different owners, different continents even!


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    Matt Bauer
    Registered Users Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Matt Bauer


    rebel_rebel wrote: »
    god good I cant believe I wasted 30 seconds of life reading that! what a petty argument.whens the book coming out?!

    I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I asked before we ordered if they accept Irish student cards. They took the card, brought it to a manager to check, and came back to confirm that they do accept Irish student cards and this card in particular.

    But when it came time to pay, they backtracked.

    That's the issue. Not that they don't accept foreign student cards. I know some places that do, but that's up to every business to decide.


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    Riskymove
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    jor el wrote: »
    Why do people feel the need to use works like robbed when that is clearly not the case? You were not robbed, you were mislead.

    I disagree

    misleading would have been if when they produced their student card after the meal that they were told that not just any student card was sufficient

    in this case, frankly, they were lied to.....and I cant see how anyone would be happy in this situation


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    Rowley Birkin QC
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    keithclancy wrote: »
    Thats normal,

    NS (Nationaal Spoorwegen) in the Netherlands, don't accept foreign student cards for rail tickets.

    They do if you play dumb. ;)


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    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Riskymove wrote: »
    I disagree

    misleading would have been if when they produced their student card after the meal that they were told that not just any student card was sufficient

    in this case, frankly, they were lied to.....and I cant see how anyone would be happy in this situation

    How does being lied to, or mislead, about the discount equal being robbed? Also, if they hadn't produced the card before hand and just assumed the discount applied, that wouldn't be misleading at all. That would have been a case of the customer falsely assuming their foreign student card would be accepted there.

    As it stands, they were mislead into thinking the discount applied when it actually didn't. Nothing more than that. A poor experience, but not the end of the world. Don't go back to that particular shop again, nothing more.


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    tony1kenobi
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    Op will you let us know which Pizza Hut it was? Just in case I ever find myself to be a student and in China at the same time.


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    120_Minutes
    Registered Users Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Why didnt you "change your mind" and not pay?


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    Matt Bauer
    Registered Users Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Matt Bauer


    jor el wrote: »
    Pizza Hut is a franchise. Even the stores in Ireland may not be under the same ownership.

    When I go to a Pizza Hut in Ireland, I am still supporting Pizza Hut, Inc, their parent company. The franchisees don't get to keep all the profits.
    So you knew you weren't robbed, but wanted to say it anyway so as to have a more dramatic effect? That makes it even worse.

    I am sorry that I offended you.


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    Matt Bauer
    Registered Users Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Matt Bauer


    120_Minutes wrote: »
    Why didnt you "change your mind" and not pay?

    :D


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    #18
    Matt Bauer
    Registered Users Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Matt Bauer


    jor el wrote: »
    Also, if they hadn't produced the card before hand and just assumed the discount applied, that wouldn't be misleading at all. That would have been a case of the customer falsely assuming their foreign student card would be accepted there.

    I agree with you on that point. The problem is, we produced the student card before we even ordered. The member of staff brought the card to a manager and came back to tell us that yes, the 20% discount will apply to us and yes they do accept Irish student cards. When it came time to pay, they changed their minds.


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    bigjohnny80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭bigjohnny80


    How much did the 20% 'loss' cost you?


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    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »
    They do if you play dumb. ;)

    No .. they don't :)

    Have seen Irish, English and German students getting hauled off the Train on the Schiphol/Amsterdam train, you need to apply for it:

    http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/OV-studentenkaart


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    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    OP you should try phoning the Pizza Hut head office in Bejing.

    Be careful though cause, there are so many Wings and Wongs that you're liable to Wing the Wong number...:p


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    Rowley Birkin QC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    keithclancy wrote: »
    No .. they don't :)

    Have seen Irish, English and German students getting hauled off the Train on the Schiphol/Amsterdam train, you need to apply for it:

    http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/OV-studentenkaart

    I travelled Rotterdam/A'dam with my valid Irish card and they were cool with it. Just told me to sort it out for the next time.

    I also found that a lot of the conductors didn't bother asking for the student card from Dutch or other people with student tickets.


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    #23
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,540 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Should have gone to Station kitchen, only small fast food place I've ever eaten at in china and they show football most of the time. i ate there once with 8 people untill stuffed for about €15 and the food was good, while the shops and restaurant mainly serving foreigner cost the same as home local places and the likes of MacDonalds and kfc are very cheap how much did you loose out on.

    Are you sure this was a real pizza hut, china's not know for it's adherence to traded marked names, how many z were in pizza.


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    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »
    I travelled Rotterdam/A'dam with my valid Irish card and they were cool with it. Just told me to sort it out for the next time.

    I also found that a lot of the conductors didn't bother asking for the student card from Dutch or other people with student tickets.

    The student card is their pass. Its a wireless chip system.
    The reduced price ticket you bought is for something else altogether (voordeelurenabonnement)

    The common mistake is people buy the 40% discount card thinking its for students. I think you were lucky to get off with it to be honest.

    Wouldnt want someone to see this and think that you can get away with it easily.. seeing foreigners stung for a control ticket is a common sight.


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    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    jor el wrote: »
    As it stands, they were mislead into thinking the discount applied when it actually didn't. Nothing more than that. A poor experience, but not the end of the world. Don't go back to that particular shop again, nothing more.

    you have a very understanding view of 'misleading' I have to say

    I think its more than 'misleading', as I said i think its downright lying

    Question: 'does this card give me 20% off'
    Answer: 'yes'

    so they decide to eat there

    then later 'no'......'misleading'?


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    Mac Masters
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭Mac Masters


    You should report them to the chinese police or better yet

    obamao-1.jpg

    Yes he can help you!


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    twowheelsonly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    We're still waiting to hear the bottom line, How much did they 'rob' off you?


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    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Riskymove wrote: »
    you have a very understanding view of 'misleading' I have to say

    What other understanding of it can there be?
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mislead
    To lead into error of thought or action, especially by intentionally deceiving.

    The OP was not robbed, he was mislead into believing a discount would apply, when in fact it did not.
    Riskymove wrote: »
    I think its more than 'misleading', as I said i think its downright lying

    Question: 'does this card give me 20% off'
    Answer: 'yes'

    so they decide to eat there

    then later 'no'......'misleading'?

    Yes, in every sense of the word. You say you disagree with me, yet reading both of our posts, we seem to be in complete agreement. I don't understand why you're still going on about this.


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    tallaghtoutlaws
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    If im right in saying most of those Big American Chain restaurants cost roughly the same in China as they do in the US. So 20% can't have been very much. Say you buy a large pizza each costs at most $20. 20% of $20 is only $4. So lets convert $4 into €. Roughly €3.25 give or take a few cent.

    So over $4 you would stop giving the Irish chains your business as you were mislead in another country? Daft at best. Even if out of principle you are doing it, It is still daft.

    Some people cause a huge fuss over nothing. Let me ask you did you end up paying for the Pizza or did you walk out?


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    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    In Communist China shop robs you.


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    FruitLover
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    Matt Bauer wrote: »
    Suffice to say, after having been a Pizza Hut customer in Ireland for years, I do not plan to frequent their restaurants anymore.

    Yeah, that'll really show the guy in China...


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