French ban the burqa

K-9

sligopark wrote: »

how do you know?

Many balaclava wearing enthusiasts complaining about this?

sligopark

K-9 wrote: »

Many balaclava wearing enthusiasts complaining about this?

I am not SinnFein would have many backers on this one and as for criminal gangs hmmm

K-9

sligopark wrote: »

I am not SinnFein would have many backers on this one and as for criminal gangs hmmm

Huh?????????

Okay, you are a security guard in a bank.

What is the biggest security threat?

A balaclava wearing individual at the door or a burqa wearing one?

What are the odds a balaclava wearing individual is going to rob a bank compared to a burqa wearing one?

sligopark

K-9 wrote: »

Huh?????????

Okay, you are a security guard in a bank.

What is the biggest security threat?

A balaclava wearing individual at the door or a burqa wearing one?

What are the odds a balaclava wearing individual is going to rob a bank compared to a burqa wearing one?

if you are a security guard you treat either as equal

K-9

sligopark wrote: »

if you are a security guard you treat either as equal

Okay, someone arives at my door wearing a balaclava. Am I going to let him/her in? No.

Someone arrives at my door wearing a burqa, I'll think it odd, but first thought in my head wont be, definitely going to rob me.

The Highwayman

K-9 wrote: »

Okay, someone arives at my door wearing a balaclava. Am I going to let him/her in? No.

Someone arrives at my door wearing a burqa, I'll think it odd, but first thought in my head wont be, definitely going to rob me.

So where do you live? I wont rob ya

K-9

The Highwayman wrote: »

So where do you live? I wont rob ya

You wearing a burqa?

Seems to be a crime wave of burqa wearing robbers about. Personally, I didn't hear much of it in the latest crime statistics. Hell, the Daily Mail hasn't copped onto to it yet, so it mustn't exist.

old_aussie

K-9 wrote: »

Okay, someone arives at my door wearing a balaclava. Am I going to let him/her in? No.

Someone arrives at my door wearing a burqa, I'll think it odd, but first thought in my head wont be, definitely going to rob me.

I wouldn't suspect that they were going to rob me but I'd immediately suspect that they were goin to detonate.

extract from

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10655900

"The [first] attacker, dressed in women's clothing, was trying to get in the mosque, but was prevented," local MP Hossein Ali Shahriari told Fars news agency.

K-9

old_aussie wrote: »

I wouldn't suspect that they were going to rob me but I'd immediately suspect that they were goin to detonate.

extract from

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10655900

"The [first] attacker, dressed in women's clothing, was trying to get in the mosque, but was prevented," local MP Hossein Ali Shahriari told Fars news agency.

Yeah, definite grounds for banning the burqa in France then!

Mike 1972

K-9 wrote: »

Okay, someone arives at my door wearing a balaclava. Am I going to let him/her in? No.

Someone arrives at my door wearing a burqa, I'll think it odd, but first thought in my head wont be, definitely going to rob me.

FFS people the proposed law relates the wearing of burquas in public

The admission policies of private organisations such as banks, shopping centres and your household are of little or no relevance

K-9

Mike 1972 wrote: »

FFS people the proposed law relates the wearing of burquas in public

The admission policies of private organisations such as banks, shopping centres and your household are of little or no relevance

Yes. This balaclava comparison is ridiculous at this stage.

Abrasax

K-9 wrote: »

Yes. This balaclava comparison is ridiculous at this stage.

I'd say the terrorists will have to disguise themselves as emos and goths now.

Security risk - check
Anti-social - check

They'll have to be banned next.

Mike 1972

K-9 wrote: »

Yes. This balaclava comparison is ridiculous at this stage.

Until the next AH burqua thread comes along in a few weeks/days and everyone starts all over again :rolleyes:

plein de force

darn it, oh well i suppose i'll have to leave my Gucci swarovski studded burqa here when i move to france in a few years

Mike 1972

How do Burqua clad women identify each other in group settings

I mean if the burquas are all the same colour and the women are all roughly the same height it must be pretty confusing ?

Nodin

I'd imagine they know each other by the squeaks, squeals and shreiks that seem to accompany gatherings of women everywhere....

Biggins

An insightful article that cuts to the chase:



I can see both sides. I still dunno whats the right thing!

Terry

irishconvert wrote: »

Well I am not a bully, and if you feel that I bullied you then I apologise.

I asked you the same question three times. Each time you didn't answer it.

You didn't answer mine.
What was the reply of the woman in the Mosque when asked why she was wearing a Burkha?

lmaopml wrote: »

Um, obviously no! I only suggested that there are perhaps 'alternatives', to telling them what they can't 'wear'...for their own benefit of course, and 'freedom'? from the oppression...... and not to mention
the general populations benefit, that can be looked into by other means, using French law. Is imagination that deficit?

..other than prohibition and intolerance..

Drawing a line in the sand never helps, it just marks the point where one 'gives up'...and loses

There are always alternatives...unless the decision is politically motivated of course and xenophobia is the appetiser..

What are the alternatives?
Remember, you cannot speak directly to these women.

This is social etiquette, and these people seem not to care for the social etiquette in the country they call their home.

irishconvert

Terry wrote: »

You didn't answer mine.
What was the reply of the woman in the Mosque when asked why she was wearing a Burkha?

Sorry I didn't see it. She mumbled something incoherent. I think she was shocked the Imam would confront her like that.

SV

Hurray/

Nodin

SV wrote: »

Hurray/

More well thought out phillosophy from our Islamic affairs correspondent...

SV

Nodin wrote: »

More well thought out phillosophy from our Islamic affairs correspondent...

lol, I'm happy.

Why do I have to explain anything to you, of all people?
Actually, I couldn't, I don't have any reasons really. I just like seeing Muslims being stopped in their tracks.

Nodin

SV wrote: »

lol, I'm happy.

Why do I have to explain anything to you, of all people?
Actually, I couldn't, I don't have any reasons really. I just like seeing Muslims being stopped in their tracks.

.......which is really the definition of a genuine 100% card carrying bigot.

SV

Nodin wrote: »

.......which is really the definition of a genuine 100% card carrying bigot.

....and?

Nodin

SV wrote: »

....and?

Generally thats taken as something to be ashamed of, not a badge of honour.

baltimore sun

They should be banned but only coz if I can been seen on CCTV then all other peoples should be seen on CCTV.
That is all

SV

Nodin wrote: »

Generally thats taken as something to be ashamed of, not a badge of honour.

Oh right yeah.
I'm not going to be ashamed of hating a religion that worships a paedophile and try to live their life like him, but each to their own and all that!

Nodin

SV wrote: »

Oh right yeah.
I'm not going to be ashamed of hating a religion that worships a paedophile and try to live their life like him, but each to their own and all that!

....yep, thats the kind of thing.

Cookie_Monster

SV wrote: »

lol, I'm happy.

Why do I have to explain anything to you, of all people?
Actually, I couldn't, I don't have any reasons really. I just like seeing Muslims being stopped in their tracks.

+1

the sooner everywhere else in Europe brings it in the better

Nodin

Yes, lets have universal intolerance. That'll show them.

Cookie_Monster

Nodin wrote: »

Yes, lets have universal intolerance. That'll show them.

yeah, it will you know.

Biggins

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

+1

the sooner everywhere else in Europe brings it in the better

...Except England. Still upper lip and all that wot..wot! :pac:

caseyann

SV wrote: »

lol, I'm happy.

Why do I have to explain anything to you, of all people?
Actually, I couldn't, I don't have any reasons really. I just like seeing Muslims being stopped in their tracks.

Not all muslims live like the fanatics :rolleyes:

SV

caseyann wrote: »

Not all muslims live like the fanatics :rolleyes:

So?
Do you think my only reasons for having a huge disliking for muslims is because of the fanatics?

Jarndyce

caseyann wrote: »

Not all muslims live like the fanatics :rolleyes:

He did not say that.

I also enjoy seeing them being stopped in their tracks, whether they are fanatics or otherwise.

caseyann

SV wrote: »

So?
Do you think my only reasons for having a huge disliking for muslims is because of the fanatics?

I cant see why any other reason why you would dislike people of muslim religion.

Jarndyce

caseyann wrote: »

I cant see why any other reason why you would dislike people of muslim religion.

Well in that case I suggest that you educate yourself because you clearly have no idea what you are naively supporting.

caseyann

Jarndyce wrote: »

Well in that case I suggest that you educate yourself because you clearly have no idea what you are naively supporting.

You know nothing of what i support or dont,or what i know of muslims or not,most i know are just like us and dont even think about religion on daily basis barr funerals and weddings and holidays...... barr the fanatics.So i suggest you think and educate yourself.

SV

caseyann wrote: »

You know nothing of what i support or dont,or what i know of muslims or not,most i know are just like us and dont even think about religion on daily basis barr funerals and weddings and holidays...... barr the fanatics

LOL!

caseyann wrote: »

So i suggest you think and educate yourself.

and mega LOL.

Jarndyce

caseyann wrote: »

You know nothing of what i support or dont,or what i know of muslims or not,most i know are just like us and dont even think about religion on daily basis barr funerals and weddings and holidays...... barr the fanatics.So i suggest you think and educate yourself.

If they are "just like us" then they are not Muslims. It may be that they have been born into Muslim family, as I was Catholic, but this means nothing. If you are basing your opinion on the a la carte, alcohol drinking Muslim then you are way off the mark in this discussion.

caseyann

with likes of these people like the ones who used excuse of they are muslim so lets kill them,i say give them back their hijab.Changed my mind thanks

Morlar

I think stories like these do a great deal for east/west relations. Yayyy Syria

http://breakingnews.ie/world/syria-bans-face-veils-466059.html

19/07/2010 - 15:23:50
Syria has banned the face-covering Islamic veil from its universities.

The Education Ministry’s move on the niqab came as similar ones in Europe spark cries of discrimination against muslims.

The ban affects public and private universities and aims to protect Syria’s secular identity, but does not include the headscarf, which many Syrian women wear.

The niqab is not widespread in Syria, although it has become more common recently. Its growing popularity has not gone unnoticed in a country governed by a secular, authoritarian regime.

Last month, hundreds of primary school teachers who wear the niqab were moved to administrative jobs.

wes

Syria is run by a dictator, and I don't think we should be using them to justify laws in the West. Doing that is nearly as bad as invoking Saudi Arabia to justify things.

Morlar

In comparison to saudi arabia it is a progressive (in the best sense of the word), positive, modern, forward looking middle eastern country.

wes

Morlar wrote: »

In comparison to saudi arabia it is a progressive (in the best sense of the word), positive, modern, forward looking middle eastern country.

Still run by a dictatorship.

In case of France, you could at least claim it was the will of the people, not so with Syria, where it was the whim of a dictator. What is also ironic, is that the Syrian's don't go nearly as far as the French do in there ban.

When, Assad allows free and open elections, then I think it would be fair to say it is a modern and forward looking ME country. Personally, the only country that is in anyway forward looking is the Lebanon, even with its problems.

Seriously, I find it very funny that people are invoking the likes of Syria to justify anything, especially when the Syrian's didn't go nearly as far as the French have. The 2 bans aren't even comparable.

Jarndyce

wes wrote: »

What is also ironic, is that the Syrian's don't go nearly as far as the French do in there ban.

That's hardly ironic. Syria is a Muslim country - of course they don't go nearly as far as the French.

wes

Jarndyce wrote: »

That's hardly ironic. Syria is a Muslim country - of course they don't go nearly as far as the French.

Syria is run by a secular dictatorship. The average person has no say in how the country is run. The country is run by the whims of Assad. Its ironic that a dictatorship didn't take things nearly as far as a Western democracy.

K-9

Jarndyce wrote: »

If they are "just like us" then they are not Muslims. It may be that they have been born into Muslim family, as I was Catholic, but this means nothing. If you are basing your opinion on the a la carte, alcohol drinking Muslim then you are way off the mark in this discussion.

I base my views on Catholicism on what Coir say too.

Jarndyce

wes wrote: »

Syria is run by a secular dictatorship. The average person has no say in how the country is run. The country is run by the whims of Assad. Its ironic that a dictatorship didn't take things nearly as far as a Western democracy.

Hardly. While it may not officially be an Islamic state, something like 90% of Syria are Muslim, as is Assad. So something tells me that decisions like that are not as whimsical as you might suggest. To be honest, I don't even know where you're going with this point about Syria.

Jarndyce

K-9 wrote: »

I base my views on Catholicism on what Coir say too.

While I detect sarcasm, I have no idea what you're trying to say. Is it possible for you to offer a point that shows at least some degree of thought process?