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Love/Hate [** Spoilers **]

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    #5972
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,673 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Any chance the Dentist turns out to be a plant too? setting the boys up for the big fall?

    Hardly. He's acting far too scared. Even in the scenes of him on his own he's petrified and all over the place. If it was to turn out that he is a mole then it's crap!


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    #5973
    dave1982
    Registered Users Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Aido knows lizzie well doesn't he? Nidge has never seen her are we agreed on that?

    Yes only Darren who is dead and Aido have seen or met Lizzie, so Nidge has no notion who the 2 in the car were.


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    #5974
    Neeson
    Registered Users Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭Neeson


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    They arent undercover though id imagine except Gavin who was reluctant to go into the interview room and let Terry in with the other lad. I reckon Gavin will try infiltrate them.


    Ronaldo Obama was laughing at Elmo as he left the station wasn't he? So if that was planned he should have kept himself out of the way.


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    #5975
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,673 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    kilkenny12 wrote: »
    Evidence?? He CLEARLY saw them. It was played in slow fu(king motion.

    Seriously, half the people on this thread need to go back to junior infants.

    "Evidence"......

    I think maybe the show wants to confuse or to make us wonder if he did see them. I don't think we will know for definite until Nidge says something to indicate that he saw them.


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    #5976
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Blay wrote: »
    Happyman starting to drag the thread down again I see.

    Thing is that right now Nidge would be seeing eyes everywhere..every passing/stopped car, every window rolled down, every person standing on a corner could be after him.

    He might attach some meaning to a person in a stopped car turning away when he sees them but he probably won't connect it to the IRA.

    What paranoid traits did he display when he was driving with his son? Tell us please.
    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    he tends to dominate the threads...it's more our fault for arguing back, the more we argue the longer the derailment...

    Derailing what exactly? A discussion about a TV drama in a television forum?


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    #5977
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 21,020 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    What paranoid traits did he display when he was driving with his son? Tell us please.



    Derailing what exactly? A discussion about a TV drama in a television forum?
    yes but last year the thread was nearly locked


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    #5978
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 21,020 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    What paranoid traits did he display when he was driving with his son? Tell us please.



    Derailing what exactly? A discussion about a TV drama in a television forum?
    none ? perhaps warren took his mind of things.


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    #5979
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    none ? perhaps warren took his mind of things.
    Perhaps, which means he is not paranoid all the time, which is funnily enough exactly what I was saying a good few posts ago.
    Something sparked his current bout of paranoia that saw him search out a safe house and go to ground.


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    #5980
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Aido knows lizzie well doesn't he? Nidge has never seen her are we agreed on that?

    Yeah I agree here, i'm not saying he recognises Lizzie as a RIRA hit(wo)man, but I'm saying he definitely (in my eyes) recognised they were watching him, let's not forget they followed him at a distance of about 20 yards to the hospital.


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    #5981
    mrbrown69
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 246 ✭✭mrbrown69


    Odd that one of the characters is an actual real "under cover" Guard in the drugs unit....surely he'll now be an "ex under cover" copper with a well known face like that


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    #5982
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Perhaps, which means he is not paranoid all the time, which is funnily enough exactly what I was saying a good few posts ago.
    Something sparked his current bout of paranoia that saw him search out a safe house and go to ground.

    Every single piece of evidence we were given in the episode points to him recognising he was being followed and watched at the hospital, I may well be wrong but as of now that's what I am assuming.


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    #5983
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    mrbrown69 wrote: »
    Odd that one of the characters is an actual real "under cover" Guard in the drugs unit....surely he'll now be an "ex under cover" copper with a well known face like that

    Nah - I'm pretty sure criminals don't watch TV.

    He'll be grand.


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    #5984
    sirgockster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭sirgockster


    What is it with all the nit picking, If nobody likes the show, change channels, Nidge speaks to his son while driving and you use it to show that he is not paranoid all the time, Maybe speaking to his son relaxes him, You get flaws in every single tv show from the wire to breaking bad to love hate, If you are a fan of the show you don't give a toss about them, Those who bring them up are just doing it because they like the attention of a response on a forum


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    #5985
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    sirgockster wrote: »
    What is it with all the nit picking, If nobody likes the show, change channels, Nidge speaks to his son while driving and you use it to show that he is not paranoid all the time, Maybe speaking to his son relaxes him, You get flaws in every single tv show from the wire to breaking bad to love hate, If you are a fan of the show you don't give a toss about them, Those who bring them up are just doing it because they like the attention of a response on a forum


    We are on a TV forum discussing a TV drama, if you can't handle anything but praise, maybe it is you who should go elsewhere.
    I'll say it again, I enjoy the drama, it is entertaining but it has a curious effect on a certain demographic which I find interesting about a programme that has issues and credibility flaws. It really is ok to feel that way.


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    #5986
    Stiltzkin
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Stiltzkin


    Seriously can't understand the people saying Nidge isn't paranoid. Even though he probably didn't recognise Lizzy and Wayne, he knew something was wrong.. which is why Trish couldn't convince him to get out of the car. The fact that he goes straight to Janet's house after this (not the brothel) is a clear indicator that he wants to stay on the move and lay low.. The scenes with Warren are reminding of us of the only thing Nidge loves and are his ultimate weakness - his children. We know this from the scene with Nidge and Darren in season 2 where Nidge summarizes his entire persona, saying he doesn't care about anything or anyone except Warren, and now presumably young John as well.


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    #5987
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Stiltzkin wrote: »
    Seriously can't understand the people saying Nidge isn't paranoid. Even though he probably didn't recognise Lizzy and Wayne, he knew something was wrong.. which is why Trish couldn't convince him to get out of the car. The fact that he goes straight to Janet's house after this (not the brothel) is a clear indicator that he wants to stay on the move and lay low.. The scenes with Warren are reminding of us of the only thing Nidge loves and are his ultimate weakness - his children. We know this from the scene with Nidge and Darren in season 2 where Nidge summarizes his entire persona, saying he doesn't care about anything or anyone except Warren, and now presumably young John as well.

    Ye I tried to quote that earlier, by far the most important line Nidge has ever spoken.


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    #5988
    sirgockster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭sirgockster


    We are on a TV forum discussing a TV drama, if you can't handle anything but praise, maybe it is you who should go elsewhere.
    I'll say it again, I enjoy the drama, it is entertaining but it has a curious effect on a certain demographic which I find interesting about a programme that has issues and credibility flaws. It really is ok to feel that way.

    I'm all for debate about the show but to have a moan and a complaint because the graffiti on the wall was a bit big, It's not really a debate is it, It's down right nit picking


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    #5989
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    sirgockster wrote: »
    I'm all for debate about the show but to have a moan and a complaint because the graffiti on the wall was a bit big, It's not really a debate is it, It's down right nit picking

    It was an add on to a point made by another poster, mentioned once in relation to how they let some details slip. Nitpicking you say?

    The amount of bullying by those who just want a love-in that goes on seriously undermines this 'Television' forum and is actually what drags the thread down.


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    #5990
    sirgockster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭sirgockster


    It's not a love in, It having a discussion about were we think the show will go and how the 4th season will end those who are a fan of the show could not care less about the size of the graffiti on he wall is and we are not overly concerned if Nidge is not paranoid around his own son


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    #5991
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    sirgockster wrote: »
    It's not a love in, It having a discussion about were we think the show will go and how the 4th season will end those who are a fan of the show could not care less about the size of the graffiti on he wall is and we are not overly concerned if Nidge is not paranoid around his own son

    Well don't address the point made then. There are plenty of side conversations going on that I and others are not taking part in. Follow suit and quit ...eh...whinging.


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    #5992
    sirgockster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭sirgockster


    Not whinging, Just pointing out that not every tv show is perfect, Just sit back and enjoy it if you don't enoy it, turn it off that is the beauty of the remote control, Nobody forces you to watch anything


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    #5993
    Imhof Tank
    Registered Users Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Dont think we can assume Nidge wouldn't know Lizzie just because they haven't meet on screen.

    Nidge planned the hit on Elmo's cousin. Having a young wan along on the job was part of that plan - so they would look like a courting couple on the way to and from the hit.

    Having said that, I don't believe he recognised her at the hospital. More a case of something not being right and his sixth sense kicked in.

    There was a major emphasis on the Communion invitation to Siobhan I thought. I presume its happening before episode 6 so cant be the climax of the series.


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    #5994
    Imhof Tank
    Registered Users Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Something BIG is going to go down at the communion party, and I'm not talking about the bouncy castle.


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    #5995
    sirgockster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭sirgockster


    I have the communion as the day that everything comes down on top of Nidge and we see hell break out, Will be interesting to see if it's the final episode or not, If it's not then we could be in for a treat to end the show, With Nidges mother having a stroke, Could we see a funeral massacre also? Either way I can see the show heating up in the next few weeks


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    #5996
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    Dont think we can assume Nidge wouldn't know Lizzie just because they haven't meet on screen.

    Nidge planned the hit on Elmo's cousin. Having a young wan along on the job was part of that plan - so they would look like a courting couple on the way to and from the hit.

    Having said that, I don't believe he recognised her at the hospital. More a case of something not being right and his sixth sense kicked in.

    There was a major emphasis on the Communion invitation to Siobhan I thought. I presume its happening before episode 6 so cant be the climax of the series.

    Nidge knows that people want him dead - its a downside of being a gangster. Stranded alone in a carpark with thoughts of mortality on his mind (his mums health) these things come to the fore.
    A Mr A. Hitler of Germany survived numerous murderous plots by not being predictable. Nidge is just doing likewise.

    The Communion thing is being so heavily flagged I'm thinking it'll pass off without incident. I'd imagine even at this point Nidgeweasel is planning on missing the ceremony.


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    #5997
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,395 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Yeah I agree here, i'm not saying he recognises Lizzie as a RIRA hit(wo)man, but I'm saying he definitely (in my eyes) recognised they were watching him, let's not forget they followed him at a distance of about 20 yards to the hospital.

    There's one part in that clip where Trish checked her mirror & her facial expression suggested that there was something she wasn't happy about, I think she knew they were being followed.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #5998
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 21,020 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Well don't address the point made then. There are plenty of side conversations going on that I and others are not taking part in. Follow suit and quit ...eh...whinging.

    nothing has changed since last year....I personally think love hate is great and as an irish person i'm proud of it. As a tv fan i am gripped by it and glued to it from start to finish...I[m sure there are flaws here and there as with everything...however if you have made a valid point in the last year please repost it...I'm also proud of the cast, I think they are a great bunch of lads, just like the cast of "this is england", i think thy gel as a unit. hows that script coming along?


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    #5999
    Ash.J.Williams
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    lets not forget Nidge dabbles a bit himself...which would lead to bouts of paranoia as opposed to constant paranoia


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    #6000
    lala88
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭lala88


    hasnt been great so far apart from last nights ''Ging gang gooley, gooley, gooley go, ging gang goo. Ging gang goo!


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    #6001
    Meauldsegosha
    Registered Users Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭Meauldsegosha


    FloatingVoter wrote: »

    The Communion thing is being so heavily flagged I'm thinking it'll pass off without incident. I'd imagine even at this point Nidgeweasel is planning on missing the ceremony.

    Was thinking the same myself.


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