Love/Hate [** Spoilers **]

Bonito

ballygowan wrote: »

Quick question!!

Can anyone tell me when love/hate is repeated?

It's the new 4 part series that started on rte on sunday night!!
My friend has no internet and has no access to the rte player,

Cheers

Here ya go.

biko

AH -> TV

Mr E

L/H threads merged.

Elmo

http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1081787

Namabillion

RTE 1
No. Programme Start Time Day 000's
Rank
Adults
1 The Late Late Show 21:36 Fri 641
2 Prime Time 21:40 Thu 491
3 Prime Time 21:35 Tue 470
4 Fair City 20:03 Tue 456
5 Saturday Night Show 21:44 Sat 442
6 Love/Hate 21:30 Sun 404
7 Eastenders 19:58 Mon 395
8 Fair City 19:29 Wed 391
9 Nationwide 18:58 Mon 389
10 Celebrity Bainisteoir 18:32 Sun 378
11 Fair City 20:01 Sun 371
12 Fair City 20:03 Thu 367
13 Eastenders 19:28 Tue 360
14 Reeling In The Years 20:32 Sun 359
15 The Frontline 22:36 Mon 357
16 Eastenders 19:58 Fri 352
17 The Restaurant 20:32 Wed 344
18 Eastenders 19:31 Thu 343
19 Rescue 117 20:32 Tue 333
20 FILM: Veronica Guerin 21:35 Wed 309

http://www.medialive2.com/television/latest-top-20-programmes/latest-top-20-programmes.html
Ratings.

Elmo

Its a bit clunky. I think the writers forgot that you can move quickly past a funeral, in actual fact you didn't even need to bury the brother. Nearly an hour of a funeral???? Did I miss what they are about? What do these criminals do exactly?

Over all it's fine, nothing major.

Was it supposed to look like the shot the camera man in the "bebo" film?

nicklauski

Elmo wrote: »

Was it supposed to look like the shot the camera man in the "bebo" film?

No. I think the gun jammed and you can see Darren put the camera down and see his feet walking over to Nigel to see what happened.

A V A

but it does like te camera man was shot


i thought he got shot :D:D the lead up to it was looking like something was going to happen

nicklauski

But you can clearly see the camera being lowered, gradually, and him walking over.

must have been a flesh wound. Or Darren is a hardy hooooor.

srfc19

Just after watching this now and I think the criticism is a bit mental. Obviously RTE has done some crap stuff in the past, but give credit where its due. Good opening episode and I'm looking forward to next week.

I was enjoying it so much that I didn't even notice the accent problems that everyone else has, but then I didn't watch it expecting to hate it just because its on RTE.

On the American hip-hop music playing in the cars, I don't really see the problem with it. People do listen to this type of music and I felt it was believable.

Nolanger

Yep, but it's mostly '90s rap tunes that they used - done already in plenty of old American TV shows.

KeanSeenan

Billy86 wrote: »

I think that was actually a good touch on their part, in relation to people complaining about American rap music in the show. Sure Bebo is dated, but people are familiar with what it is/was and it locates the situation as being in Ireland a lot more effectively than Facebook, for example. I know Bebo was international as well, but for some reason it hits home as more 'Irish' than Facebook, which is such a universally recognised global phenomenon.

Well as it was just a video, Youtube could've been used, but I suppose, Bebo is in the toilet now, cheaper to mention.I thought the music seemed apt, I'll imagine some bad dance music or Oasis may be used in car scenes.

rob88

so **** and boring.. i wouldn't mind if it was just the set up episode for the next 12 episodes or something but 3 more to go?? i agree with most of the negative points.. was like an hour long fair city.. accents were ****.. actors looked too clean.. boring as hell.. script editor needs to be fired and dialogue was generally crap.. and the whole internet video thing at the end?? so the main guy leaves his brothers funeral to go shoot some videos for youtube in the woods?? and he wasnt trying to scare your man because he seemed offended the guy was thinking that so why did they bring him a long? for the car trip? ughhhh not watchin it again next week

kc66

KeanSeenan wrote: »

Well as it was just a video, Youtube could've been used, but I suppose, Bebo is in the toilet now, cheaper to mention.I thought the music seemed apt, I'll imagine some bad dance music or Oasis may be used in car scenes.

They had "Viewtube".

Elmo

rob88 wrote: »

was like an hour long fair city.. accents were ****

This to me is a typical post. I didn't feel it was an hour long fair city and yet again we start talking about accents in Irish TV shows. I agree it wasn't very good and it left too many questions, you just couldn't care about the characters.

Why was the Brother Killed? It seemed too wishy washy to blame it purely on a Gangland murder, as we were not told of any of the background to the characters. Other than they are very stereotypical Irish criminals, one living in the Costa De Sol, one in prison shot in the first ten mins and big men with guns and women. A story about either the woman who lost her son after his friend killed him or one about the mother paying of the loan shark would have been better subject areas rather than very small subplots.

I can imagine this having an New Jack City ending with the mother who was paying of the loan shark killing that character or Aidan Gillen's character who seems to have been set up as the kingpin in a very sterotypical way.

It is average but it does have a strong Irish cast.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Good show IMO.

A few of us from Ballymun (its where I'm from) and town were waiting for this, expecting to have a laugh.

All agreed it was pretty good, but without exception EVERY ONE OF US said "thats bollox, no one talks like that"..

Its only short coming for us was the accents, they were awful..

Good show let down by terrible accents.

rob88

Elmo wrote: »

This to me is a typical post.

2 sentences of a typical post it would seem

Elmo

rob88 wrote: »

2 sentences of a typical post it would seem

I was just highlighting out the most typical part ! :cool:

Greenman

It seems better tonight so far.:)

ArtSmart

beautiful stuff. great tension, very nicely paced. some great directorial moments, even that psychic scene, well acted, well written, nicely done - and for a sub-sub plot issue.

Billy86

ArtSmart wrote: »

beautiful stuff. great tension, very nicely paced. some great directorial moments, even that psychic scene, well acted, well written, nicely done - and for a sub-sub plot issue.

Yeah, this man-in-van angle is looking very, very good right now.

The psychic scene was good; only complaints were it looked a bit 'officey' (though that was probably the point - the guy is all about making money) and his acting when passing out. Still, nicely done all in all.

Did get a laugh just there out of the thumbs up from Brendan Gleeson's son outside the garage!

...and that was brilliantly done just now, rap music or not, when they got the stuff out of the van!

De_La_Jim

Well impressed with tonights episode,great stuff

Billy86

Just saw the ad for 'When Harvey Met Bob' about Live Aid... is that RTE too? Production values look very good on it.

Two good things made by RTE in the same few months? It just wouldn't feel right...

ArtSmart

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

Better tonight. Some contrasting performances - Gillen (great), Negga (woeful).

Yeah, but she's so damned cute.

Saila

Ive seen way worse with 100 times the money spent on them, **** accents are a part of movies...any movie, its just your more in touch with the accents here so notice it more.

Only thing to fault is the music really for me, I thought it was a piss take in the first episode, allround its pretty good and worth a watch and is right up there with anything else

Billy86

I liked last weeks episode, but they really went a step beyond on this one. This is so far ahead of any fictional stuff I can remember RTE making, it's not even funny. The choice of music at the end was perfect, that's going to be stuck in my head for a few days.

The music (not including at the end) & accents are a shortfalling, but they are relatively minor complaints (especially for RTE) and the editing was much improved on last week, or at least the first half of last week. It is going to be really tough for any "it's **** cos it's ****" arguments to stand up if they live up to this weeks episode for the next two.

nicklauski

Missed the first few minutes but still enjoyed it. Gleesons thumbs up had me in stitches too. I said it last week I keep seeing him as a young version of his fathers portrayal of Martin Cahill.

Moving along at a steady pace and next week looks good too.

Elmo

Billy86 wrote: »

This is so far ahead of any fictional stuff I can remember RTE making, it's not even funny.

Ahead???? what other RTÉ dramas are you basing this on?????

MagicMarker

It sounds like tonight's episode was a good one. Too bad that last week's was so poor that it seems fewer people tuned in tonight, including myself. As evident from the lack of responses so far tonight compared to last week.

I mean, Die Hard is on ffs!! :pac:

Billy86

Elmo wrote: »

Ahead???? what other RTÉ dramas are you basing this on?????

That's my point with relation to the "it's not even funny" part you quoted. RTE have been awful at making fictional programs (with very, very few exceptions - Batchelor's Walk, which was only so/so is the only one that springs to mind off the top of my head), so this really is more a case of 'leaps and bounds forward' rather than 'a step forward' for them on that front. I'm just delighted to finally see some progress from them, in honesty.

Billy86

...and if some people had listened to those of us that said last week episode was doing a lot of establishing, and blatantly leading to something more. :rolleyes:

/smug

Honestly though a bit of a gripe of mine - how many times have most of the people watching Die Hard tonight seen it before? What is there to be gained out of watching it again unless you haven't seen it in years? How can they expect domestic productions to improve if they are not at all bothered giving them a go? Not talking about yourself personally, you tuned in last week and it obviously didn't seem to do much for you, so that's fair enough. But the amount of people I have heard over the last week who it turns out who didn't even watch a minute of Love/Hate say "it's s**te" or "you just know it will be s**te, so why bother" really winds me up. They could have at least given it until the first ad break!

For anybody interested in catching up, the first episode is available to download through torrents <SNIP> and the second will most likely be uploaded by whoever put that up in the next few days. There's RTE player too, but I don't know if they hold episodes of weekly programmes more than a week old.

The Highwayman

not bad have enjoyed the first 2.

Well done RTE

tennessee time

Muck - glamourising dublin scum - great,

arybvtcw0eolkf

MagicMarker wrote: »

It sounds like tonight's episode was a good one.

It wasn't, it was awful

Although it might appeal to the D4's and other middle class idiots.

And ffs, who in the name of sweet baby Jesus told the RTE script writers that "is all" is part of Dublin slang?.

I'll watch it again next week, but by the end of tonights episode I was nearly pulling my hair out at the accents and "is all".

Billy86

tennessee time wrote: »

Muck - glamourising dublin scum - great,

I take it you think The Wire and The Sopranos (and Casino, and Goodfellas, and the Godfather, and everything ever made about organised crime) are all 'muck' too, then?

A V A

thought this weeks was boring !!!?!?!?! i want something good to happen its to dry

Billy86

A V A wrote: »

thought this weeks was boring !!!?!?!?! i want something good to happen its to dry

I am not taking the piss here - but what would you do to add more action?

R P McMurphy

Amara Howling Survivor wrote: »

It wasn't, it was awful

Although it might appeal to the D4's and other middle class idiots.

And ffs, who in the name of sweet baby Jesus told the RTE script writers that "is all" is part of Dublin slang?.

I'll watch it again next week, but by the end of tonights episode I was nearly pulling my hair out at the accents and "is all".

I thought the casting was all wrong when I saw it last week, but thinking about it since I had to reconsider. If they cast a bunch of ugly looking scangers with thick Dublin accents that walk around like pigeons, it might be more realistic but would quickly lose its appeal. Want to be entertained, if I want to look at scangers drug dealing I can head into town

arybvtcw0eolkf

R P McMurphy wrote: »

I thought the casting was all wrong when I saw it last week, but thinking about it since I had to reconsider. If they cast a bunch of ugly looking scangers with thick Dublin accents that walk around like pigeons, it might be more realistic but would quickly lose its appeal. Want to be entertained, if I want to look at scangers drug dealing I can head into town

I get that, but to a Dub there's a lot wrong with the cast and the accents.

At the end of tonights episode a few of us were asking "wtf is - is all".

First heard it in The Commitments, then that crap Veronica Guerin movie and occasionally Fair City. But never IRL have I heard it used.

R P McMurphy

Makikomi Aside from the accents and the casting of people that would look more at home in the ucd bar do you not think that RTE did a good job of it? I thought it was good and that the acting and direction was on/above par with most dramas. Has a pretty good feel to it

ArtSmart

Amara Howling Survivor wrote: »

I get that, but to a Dub there's a lot wrong with the cast and the accents.

At the end of tonights episode a few of us were asking "wtf is - is all".

First heard it in The Commitments, then that crap Veronica Guerin movie and occasionally Fair City. But never IRL have I heard it used.

They're only messin, is all.

Yeah, but a lack of accurate accent detail is not enough to dish the whole thing.
I wonder do NJ Mafiosi laugh at the Sopranos accents? Not that I'm going to ask them...

Overall this was decent TV, admittedly relative to the Donnybrook Dons usual fare.


Plus, not only would a bunch of skanks be too much to watch, i dont think it would be accurate

arybvtcw0eolkf

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Makikomi Aside from the accents and the casting of people that would look more at home in the ucd bar do you not think that RTE did a good job of it? I thought it was good and that the acting and direction was on/above par with most dramas. Has a pretty good feel to it

Yes, its good. Very good in fact.

I love the sound track to it, I think the music is just spot on.

It really could have done without Brendan Gleeson's son in it, but probably a case of 'jobs for the boys.

The Highwayman

Amara Howling Survivor wrote: »

Yes, its good. Very good in fact.

I love the sound track to it, I think the music is just spot on.

It really could have done without Brendan Gleeson's son in it, but probably a case of 'jobs for the boys.

But what difference did it make to the plot?

ArtSmart

Amara Howling Survivor wrote: »

Yes, its good. Very good in fact.

I love the sound track to it, I think the music is just spot on.

It really could have done without Brendan Gleeson's son in it, but probably a case of 'jobs for the boys.

Really? I thought young Gleeson was ok - at least last week, little OTT this wk, but not a disaster. I'd say he'll do well down the rd. most of these will. nice to see a bit of new Irish acting talent happening. ie, what Fair City doesnt have.

laugh

Every time there is a new RTE drama, there are champions with a low post count!

BaZmO*

Watched the first two episodes back to back last night. Thought overall it was good, but the accents and some of the dialogue is absolutely terrible. Do they not have consultants on this? The OH who's not Irish even thought the accents were terrible. If you suspend belief on those elements, and the terrible casting. I suppose it is enjoyable enough, but it's certainly not "must watch" tv.

It's weird seeing all the areas and places that I know really well on it too. Had many a pint in the pub featured in EP1.

optogirl

Richard Dower wrote: »

No tits=no point.

fascinating

ballybunionlad

It's been pretty good so far. There isn't much action if thats what you're looking for.


I must say Aidan Gillen's acting is cringe at times and towards the end of the episode you can hear his American twang coming throught a bit.

Your one who Darren is in love with has also done some poor acting it must be said.


Other than that. Happy out is all.

BaZmO*

ballybunionlad wrote: »

I must say Aidan Gillen's acting is cringe at times and towards the end of the episode you can hear his American twang coming throught a bit.

Yeah I was surprised at that, I thought he should've/would've been one of the stalwarts.

Elmo

BaZmO* wrote: »

Yeah I was surprised at that, I thought he should've/would've been one of the stalwarts.

I don't know I have never liked him in anything he as done, he has always been a bit creepy IMO.