Love/Hate [ Spoilers ]

Billy86 · 10-10-2010 9:56pm

ArtSmart wrote: »

beautiful stuff. great tension, very nicely paced. some great directorial moments, even that psychic scene, well acted, well written, nicely done - and for a sub-sub plot issue.

Yeah, this man-in-van angle is looking very, very good right now.

The psychic scene was good; only complaints were it looked a bit 'officey' (though that was probably the point - the guy is all about making money) and his acting when passing out. Still, nicely done all in all.

Did get a laugh just there out of the thumbs up from Brendan Gleeson's son outside the garage!

...and that was brilliantly done just now, rap music or not, when they got the stuff out of the van!

De_La_Jim · 10-10-2010 10:04pm

Well impressed with tonights episode,great stuff

Billy86 · 10-10-2010 10:06pm

Just saw the ad for 'When Harvey Met Bob' about Live Aid... is that RTE too? Production values look very good on it.

Two good things made by RTE in the same few months? It just wouldn't feel right...

ArtSmart · 10-10-2010 10:27pm

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

Better tonight. Some contrasting performances - Gillen (great), Negga (woeful).

Yeah, but she's so damned cute.

Saila · 10-10-2010 10:33pm

Ive seen way worse with 100 times the money spent on them, **** accents are a part of movies...any movie, its just your more in touch with the accents here so notice it more.

Only thing to fault is the music really for me, I thought it was a piss take in the first episode, allround its pretty good and worth a watch and is right up there with anything else

Billy86 · 10-10-2010 10:36pm

I liked last weeks episode, but they really went a step beyond on this one. This is so far ahead of any fictional stuff I can remember RTE making, it's not even funny. The choice of music at the end was perfect, that's going to be stuck in my head for a few days.

The music (not including at the end) & accents are a shortfalling, but they are relatively minor complaints (especially for RTE) and the editing was much improved on last week, or at least the first half of last week. It is going to be really tough for any "it's **** cos it's ****" arguments to stand up if they live up to this weeks episode for the next two.

nicklauski · 10-10-2010 10:40pm

Missed the first few minutes but still enjoyed it. Gleesons thumbs up had me in stitches too.

I said it last week I keep seeing him as a young version of his fathers portrayal of Martin Cahill.

Moving along at a steady pace and next week looks good too.

Elmo · 10-10-2010 10:46pm

Billy86 wrote: »

This is so far ahead of any fictional stuff I can remember RTE making, it's not even funny.

Ahead???? what other RTÉ dramas are you basing this on?????

MagicMarker · 10-10-2010 11:06pm

It sounds like tonight's episode was a good one. Too bad that last week's was so poor that it seems fewer people tuned in tonight, including myself. As evident from the lack of responses so far tonight compared to last week.

I mean, Die Hard is on ffs!! :pac:

Billy86 · 10-10-2010 11:09pm

Elmo wrote: »

Ahead???? what other RTÉ dramas are you basing this on?????

That's my point with relation to the "it's not even funny" part you quoted. RTE have been awful at making fictional programs (with very, very few exceptions - Batchelor's Walk, which was only so/so is the only one that springs to mind off the top of my head), so this really is more a case of 'leaps and bounds forward' rather than 'a step forward' for them on that front. I'm just delighted to finally see some progress from them, in honesty.

Billy86 · 10-10-2010 11:14pm

...and if some people had listened to those of us that said last week episode was doing a lot of establishing, and blatantly leading to something more. :rolleyes:

/smug

Honestly though a bit of a gripe of mine - how many times have most of the people watching Die Hard tonight seen it before? What is there to be gained out of watching it again unless you haven't seen it in years? How can they expect domestic productions to improve if they are not at all bothered giving them a go? Not talking about yourself personally, you tuned in last week and it obviously didn't seem to do much for you, so that's fair enough. But the amount of people I have heard over the last week who it turns out who didn't even watch a minute of Love/Hate say "it's s**te" or "you just know it will be s**te, so why bother" really winds me up. They could have at least given it until the first ad break!

For anybody interested in catching up, the first episode is available to download through torrents <SNIP> and the second will most likely be uploaded by whoever put that up in the next few days. There's RTE player too, but I don't know if they hold episodes of weekly programmes more than a week old.

The Highwayman · 10-10-2010 11:58pm

not bad have enjoyed the first 2.

Well done RTE

tennessee time · 11-10-2010 12:02am

Muck - glamourising dublin scum - great,

arybvtcw0eolkf · 11-10-2010 12:14am

MagicMarker wrote: »

It sounds like tonight's episode was a good one.

It wasn't, it was awful

Although it might appeal to the D4's and other middle class idiots.

And ffs, who in the name of sweet baby Jesus told the RTE script writers that "is all" is part of Dublin slang?.

I'll watch it again next week, but by the end of tonights episode I was nearly pulling my hair out at the accents and "is all".

Billy86 · 11-10-2010 12:15am

tennessee time wrote: »

Muck - glamourising dublin scum - great,

I take it you think The Wire and The Sopranos (and Casino, and Goodfellas, and the Godfather, and everything ever made about organised crime) are all 'muck' too, then?

A V A · 11-10-2010 12:20am

thought this weeks was boring !!!?!?!?! i want something good to happen its to dry

Billy86 · 11-10-2010 12:22am

A V A wrote: »

thought this weeks was boring !!!?!?!?! i want something good to happen its to dry

I am not taking the piss here - but what would you do to add more action?

R P McMurphy · 11-10-2010 12:26am

Amara Howling Survivor wrote: »

It wasn't, it was awful

Although it might appeal to the D4's and other middle class idiots.

And ffs, who in the name of sweet baby Jesus told the RTE script writers that "is all" is part of Dublin slang?.

I'll watch it again next week, but by the end of tonights episode I was nearly pulling my hair out at the accents and "is all".

I thought the casting was all wrong when I saw it last week, but thinking about it since I had to reconsider. If they cast a bunch of ugly looking scangers with thick Dublin accents that walk around like pigeons, it might be more realistic but would quickly lose its appeal. Want to be entertained, if I want to look at scangers drug dealing I can head into town

arybvtcw0eolkf · 11-10-2010 12:44am

R P McMurphy wrote: »

I thought the casting was all wrong when I saw it last week, but thinking about it since I had to reconsider. If they cast a bunch of ugly looking scangers with thick Dublin accents that walk around like pigeons, it might be more realistic but would quickly lose its appeal. Want to be entertained, if I want to look at scangers drug dealing I can head into town

I get that, but to a Dub there's a lot wrong with the cast and the accents.

At the end of tonights episode a few of us were asking "wtf is - is all".

First heard it in The Commitments, then that crap Veronica Guerin movie and occasionally Fair City. But never IRL have I heard it used.

R P McMurphy · 11-10-2010 12:50am

Makikomi Aside from the accents and the casting of people that would look more at home in the ucd bar do you not think that RTE did a good job of it? I thought it was good and that the acting and direction was on/above par with most dramas. Has a pretty good feel to it

ArtSmart · 11-10-2010 12:52am

Amara Howling Survivor wrote: »

I get that, but to a Dub there's a lot wrong with the cast and the accents.

At the end of tonights episode a few of us were asking "wtf is - is all".

First heard it in The Commitments, then that crap Veronica Guerin movie and occasionally Fair City. But never IRL have I heard it used.

They're only messin, is all.

Yeah, but a lack of accurate accent detail is not enough to dish the whole thing.
I wonder do NJ Mafiosi laugh at the Sopranos accents? Not that I'm going to ask them...

Overall this was decent TV, admittedly relative to the Donnybrook Dons usual fare.

Plus, not only would a bunch of skanks be too much to watch, i dont think it would be accurate

arybvtcw0eolkf · 11-10-2010 1:15am

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Makikomi Aside from the accents and the casting of people that would look more at home in the ucd bar do you not think that RTE did a good job of it? I thought it was good and that the acting and direction was on/above par with most dramas. Has a pretty good feel to it

Yes, its good. Very good in fact.

I love the sound track to it, I think the music is just spot on.

It really could have done without Brendan Gleeson's son in it, but probably a case of 'jobs for the boys.

The Highwayman · 11-10-2010 1:27am

Amara Howling Survivor wrote: »

Yes, its good. Very good in fact.

I love the sound track to it, I think the music is just spot on.

It really could have done without Brendan Gleeson's son in it, but probably a case of 'jobs for the boys.

But what difference did it make to the plot?

ArtSmart · 11-10-2010 1:52am

Amara Howling Survivor wrote: »

Yes, its good. Very good in fact.

I love the sound track to it, I think the music is just spot on.

It really could have done without Brendan Gleeson's son in it, but probably a case of 'jobs for the boys.

Really? I thought young Gleeson was ok - at least last week, little OTT this wk, but not a disaster. I'd say he'll do well down the rd. most of these will. nice to see a bit of new Irish acting talent happening. ie, what Fair City doesnt have.

laugh · 11-10-2010 2:19am

Every time there is a new RTE drama, there are champions with a low post count!

BaZmO* · 11-10-2010 8:59am

Watched the first two episodes back to back last night. Thought overall it was good, but the accents and some of the dialogue is absolutely terrible. Do they not have consultants on this? The OH who's not Irish even thought the accents were terrible. If you suspend belief on those elements, and the terrible casting. I suppose it is enjoyable enough, but it's certainly not "must watch" tv.

It's weird seeing all the areas and places that I know really well on it too. Had many a pint in the pub featured in EP1.

optogirl · 11-10-2010 9:14am

Richard Dower wrote: »

No tits=no point.

fascinating

ballybunionlad · 11-10-2010 10:51am

It's been pretty good so far. There isn't much action if thats what you're looking for.

I must say Aidan Gillen's acting is cringe at times and towards the end of the episode you can hear his American twang coming throught a bit.

Your one who Darren is in love with has also done some poor acting it must be said.

Other than that. Happy out is all.

BaZmO* · 11-10-2010 11:24am

ballybunionlad wrote: »

I must say Aidan Gillen's acting is cringe at times and towards the end of the episode you can hear his American twang coming throught a bit.

Yeah I was surprised at that, I thought he should've/would've been one of the stalwarts.

Elmo · 11-10-2010 11:27am

BaZmO* wrote: »

Yeah I was surprised at that, I thought he should've/would've been one of the stalwarts.

I don't know I have never liked him in anything he as done, he has always been a bit creepy IMO.

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