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5th Years!! (2010-2011)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Anybody have any ideas has to staying awake in class with insanely boring teachers? I am literally falling asleep in my classes and its a bit irritating. I go to bed like really early (10.30,11 I have mega controlling parents :eek:). And I'm always cold and my eyes won't focus....I think my brain is shutting down...

    Do I just bring coffee to class or something? I'm fine in classes where the teacher is asking us questions and where I can participate in the class (even writing notes) but a lot of my teachers don't ask questions and won't let me write notes. Help!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    Anybody have any ideas has to staying awake in class with insanely boring teachers? I am literally falling asleep in my classes and its a bit irritating. I go to bed like really early (10.30,11 I have mega controlling parents :eek:). And I'm always cold and my eyes won't focus....I think my brain is shutting down...

    Do I just bring coffee to class or something? I'm fine in classes where the teacher is asking us questions and where I can participate in the class (even writing notes) but a lot of my teachers don't ask questions and won't let me write notes. Help!


    Go to the gym twice a week after school. The more you exercise the more energy you'll have. You'll even know from your Biology that the more Mitochondria in your cells the more energy you have, the more you exercise and the more mitochondria you'll produce! anyway...

    Yes I go like 4 times a week and run before school most mornings and it really works i have lots more energy during school now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    Anyone know what they're doing for comparitive in English yet? My teacher said we could all have an input on what to do for the novel, and we'd probably be doing the Constant Gardener for the film, which I was really happy with. Then she came in today and announced that she's changed the film to Inside I'm Dancing (which is really not very good) and she's decided the book is How Many Miles To Babylon. Gah, there are so many books on the course I'd LOVE to do but she has to go for the war one, ffs I've had enough studying of war books and poems to last me a lifetime. AND she can't pronunce hyperbole...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    Namlub wrote: »
    Anyone know what they're doing for comparitive in English yet? My teacher said we could all have an input on what to do for the novel, and we'd probably be doing the Constant Gardener for the film, which I really happy with. Then the came in today and announced that she's changed the film to Inside I'm Dancing (which is really not very good) and she's decided the book is How Many Miles To Babylon. Gah, there are so many books on the course I'd LOVE to do but she has to go for the war one, ffs I've had enough studying of war books and poems to last me a lifetime. AND she can't pronunce hyperbole...


    We haven't even started Macbeth yet. I just asked a friend and she said there reading Emma and Inside i'm danson :rolleyes: And they've already finished Macbeth...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Anybody have any ideas has to staying awake in class with insanely boring teachers? I am literally falling asleep in my classes and its a bit irritating. I go to bed like really early (10.30,11 I have mega controlling parents :eek:). And I'm always cold and my eyes won't focus....I think my brain is shutting down...

    Do I just bring coffee to class or something? I'm fine in classes where the teacher is asking us questions and where I can participate in the class (even writing notes) but a lot of my teachers don't ask questions and won't let me write notes. Help!



    I've found that recently, ever since i stopeed training and got lazy!!! falling asleep in irish the whole time . ..

    We haven't even started Macbeth yet. I just asked a friend and she said there reading Emma and Inside i'm danson :rolleyes: And they've already finished Macbeth...


    you not doing hamlet???



    have to say, hamlet is killing me slowly .. . most boring 5 acts ever written . . .and we've only finished 3 of them, even the film version ( which we're watching simultaneously while studying the play) is incredibly boring . . .







    so glad its the weekend!!! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,840 ✭✭✭Luno


    Lads I've decided to come here for some advice instead of making a new thread.

    I'm in honours maths at the moment and I've no idea if I should drop down or not. I got a D in a recent class test and I'm struggling a small bit to keep up with the fast pace (90% of my class were in 4th year and already done the first few chapters in detail)

    So my question is to do honours or not. I'd be able to get grinds but I'm not sure if I'd be wasting my time! :(

    Any ideas? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭coffeelover


    Lads I've decided to come here for some advice instead of making a new thread.

    I'm in honours maths at the moment and I've no idea if I should drop down or not. I got a D in a recent class test and I'm struggling a small bit to keep up with the fast pace (90% of my class were in 4th year and already done the first few chapters in detail)

    So my question is to do honours or not. I'd be able to get grinds but I'm not sure if I'd be wasting my time! frown.gif

    Any ideas? smile.gif

    I was in the same situation as you. I was supposed to wait for our class test on monday but i know i know i would fail so I dropped down today. I was really struggling with HL but I have got to say that pass is SIMPLE. I think HL takes to much effort and I've 6 other HL subjects so I can just count those. If you don't need HL maths when you go to college then maybe you should go to pass but thats just my opinion. Appartenly HL is supposed to get easier but I don't know :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    I'd like to say that Hamlet is boring. Really, really boring.

    And everything Kavanagh writes is about ****. EVERY SINGLE THING.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Ally7


    I'd like to say that Hamlet is boring. Really, really boring.

    And everything Kavanagh writes is about ****. EVERY SINGLE THING.

    I really like Hamlet :o

    We haven't started poetry yet, I have something to look forward to now though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Ally7 wrote: »
    I really like Hamlet :o

    We haven't started poetry yet, I have something to look forward to now though!

    SHUN THE HAMLET FAN!
    SHUNNNNN-NNN-N-N-n!!

    :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    M&S* wrote: »
    Lads I've decided to come here for some advice instead of making a new thread.

    I'm in honours maths at the moment and I've no idea if I should drop down or not. I got a D in a recent class test and I'm struggling a small bit to keep up with the fast pace (90% of my class were in 4th year and already done the first few chapters in detail)

    So my question is to do honours or not. I'd be able to get grinds but I'm not sure if I'd be wasting my time! :(

    Any ideas? :)


    I got a D in a class test last week, but i got an a1 in this weeeks one, so maybe you just had a bad week?

    If you're having trouble witht the fast pace, dont worry, if ye're only going fast because of 4th years having done some, then you will probably slow down as soon as you hit something they haven't covered.
    Dont drop yet, its way too early, even if you decide to drop down this time next year, at least you won't have to put in any effort into pass next year. Stxk with it!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Ally7 wrote: »
    I really like Hamlet :o

    We haven't started poetry yet, I have something to look forward to now though!


    You're looking forward to kavanagh waxing lyrical about masturbation?? whatever you're into . . .. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Ally7


    You're looking forward to kavanagh waxing lyrical about masturbation?? whatever you're into . . .. :rolleyes:

    Damn forgotten smilies, they make all the difference eh? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    M&S* wrote: »
    Lads I've decided to come here for some advice instead of making a new thread.

    I'm in honours maths at the moment and I've no idea if I should drop down or not. I got a D in a recent class test and I'm struggling a small bit to keep up with the fast pace (90% of my class were in 4th year and already done the first few chapters in detail)

    So my question is to do honours or not. I'd be able to get grinds but I'm not sure if I'd be wasting my time! :(

    Any ideas? :)

    Think about if you actually need it, how many points are you aiming for, how many other HL subjects are you taking and so on.

    If you don't then I'd say drop, especially if you can't keep up, you'll have a lot on your plate and it's easier all round if you can keep up and understand everything.

    But if you feel you can do it and want to then just go for it and work at it, it's possible but could be a lot of work!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Ally7 wrote: »
    Damn forgotten smilies, they make all the difference eh? :pac:
    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    And everything Kavanagh writes is about ****. EVERY SINGLE THING.
    Do explain (though this is really not information I should be learning on the weekend I have to write an essay on Kavanagh's themes) :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Namlub wrote: »
    Do explain (though this is really not information I should be learning on the weekend I have to write an essay on Kavanagh's themes) :pac:

    Iniskeen road
    :July Evening: 'And there's the half-talk code of mysteries
    And the wink-and-elbow language of delight'
    EVERYONES HAVING SEX BUT MEEEE! :(

    The Great Hunger: 'Loved the light and the queen
    Too long virgin? Yesterday was summer. Who was it promised marriage to himself
    Before apples were hung from the ceilings for Hallowe'en?'
    I'M OLD AND NO_ONE WILL HAVE SEX WITH MEEE! :(

    'And he knows that his own heart is calling his mother a liar
    God's truth is life - even the grotesque shapes of his foulest fire.'


    On Raglan Road: 'The Queen of Hearts still making tarts and I not making hay '

    Maybe my English teacher is the sexually frustrated one and he's just inventing themes in these things...:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    :D

    It's a big jump from recognising that there can be sexual undertones in poetry to ...
    And everything Kavanagh writes is about ****. EVERY SINGLE THING.

    There's more explicit reference in Romeo & Juliet to masturbation than in all of Kavanagh's poetry!

    Frustration, yes ... sexual frustration even, yes, though two other types of frustration are more evident:

    - frustration about feeling isolated and finding it difficult to socialise and interact with his peer group normally. Inniskeen Road is a good example: the neighbouring young people are cycling off to the dance in Billy Brennan's barn, chatting and joking and flirting as they go, and he is left behind to be "... king / Of banks and stones and every blooming thing." He is like Alexander Selkirk (the basis for the Robinson Crusoe character), isolated and alone; he has "... what every poet hates in spite / Of all the solemn talk of contemplation", i.e. although the common belief is that poets choose to be aloof from society, preferring to be commentators and observers, not participants, Kavanagh argues that this is often forced upon them, and suggests that it is not always welcome, certainly to him.

    - frustration about feeling cloddish and countrified and uneducated among the Dublin literati who he expected to embrace him, not look down their nose at him. His frustration turns to anger at the Stony Grey Soil of Monaghan, where he grew up, and which had "flung a ditch on (his) vision / Of beauty, love and truth". In Monaghan he had been a big fish in a small pond in literary terms:

    "You clogged the feet of my boyhood
    And I believed that my stumble
    Had the poise and stride of Apollo
    And his voice my thick tongued mumble."

    All three themes of frustration are evident in this poem, in fact:

    "O stony grey soil of Monaghan
    You burgled my bank of youth!

    Lost the long hours of pleasure
    All the women that love young men."

    Kavanagh now blames the country way of life in Monaghan for robbing his youth, and the long hours of pleasure in social and indeed sexual interaction which he feels would have been his lot in the city, a theme that many young country people would probably identify with even to-day. As with so many others, though, he has a love / hate relationship with the country, and will write again lyrically and lovingly of his native place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭Coeurdepirate


    Ally7 wrote: »
    I really like Hamlet :o

    We haven't started poetry yet, I have something to look forward to now though!
    I thought I was the only one :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭coffeelover


    We haven't started Hamlet yet but looking at these posts I can't wait to start it......NOT :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    We haven't started Hamlet yet but looking at these posts I can't wait to start it......NOT :(



    I think we should just watch the film version a couple of times instead of going over each scnen four times before watching it . . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    :D

    It's a big jump from recognising that there can be sexual undertones in poetry to ...



    There's more explicit reference in Romeo & Juliet to masturbation than in all of Kavanagh's poetry!

    Frustration, yes ... sexual frustration even, yes, though two other types of frustration are more evident:

    - frustration about feeling isolated and finding it difficult to socialise and interact with his peer group normally. Inniskeen Road is a good example: the neighbouring young people are cycling off to the dance in Billy Brennan's barn, chatting and joking and flirting as they go, and he is left behind to be "... king / Of banks and stones and every blooming thing." He is like Alexander Selkirk (the basis for the Robinson Crusoe character), isolated and alone; he has "... what every poet hates in spite / Of all the solemn talk of contemplation", i.e. although the common belief is that poets choose to be aloof from society, preferring to be commentators and observers, not participants, Kavanagh argues that this is often forced upon them, and suggests that it is not always welcome, certainly to him.

    - frustration about feeling cloddish and countrified and uneducated among the Dublin literati who he expected to embrace him, not look down their nose at him. His frustration turns to anger at the Stony Grey Soil of Monaghan, where he grew up, and which had "flung a ditch on (his) vision / Of beauty, love and truth". In Monaghan he had been a big fish in a small pond in literary terms:

    "You clogged the feet of my boyhood
    And I believed that my stumble
    Had the poise and stride of Apollo
    And his voice my thick tongued mumble."

    All three themes of frustration are evident in this poem, in fact:

    "O stony grey soil of Monaghan
    You burgled my bank of youth!

    Lost the long hours of pleasure
    All the women that love young men."

    Kavanagh now blames the country way of life in Monaghan for robbing his youth, and the long hours of pleasure in social and indeed sexual interaction which he feels would have been his lot in the city, a theme that many young country people would probably identify with even to-day. As with so many others, though, he has a love / hate relationship with the country, and will write again lyrically and lovingly of his native place.

    Then my English teacher is DEFINITELY reading in his own problems to Kavanagh, because I've picked this up off him! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭coffeelover


    Why o why did I drop to pass maths :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    Why o why did I drop to pass maths :rolleyes:

    You dare curse the name of pass maths?!:pac:

    Why, what's up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭coffeelover


    You dare curse the name of pass maths?!pacman.gif

    Why, what's up?

    Haha I'm sorry ;). No it's grand but it's like everyone learning their ABC and I know it already :rolleyes: O i dunno its kinda boring. Kinda wish i'd stuck to honours but I suppose I won't be saying that when honours becomes waay harder and loads drop down anyway :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    Pass maths is amazing tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    Haha I'm sorry ;). No it's grand but it's like everyone learning their ABC and I know it already :rolleyes: O i dunno its kinda boring. Kinda wish i'd stuck to honours but I suppose I won't be saying that when honours becomes waay harder and loads drop down anyway :cool:

    Ohh, I was like that too when I dropped down in second year and everyone was doing volume and area, loved it tbh.:pac:

    Then we moved on to algebra and equations and I always sucked at those.
    Yah, you prob did a lot of the stuff before, I think we're using the honours JC book at the mo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭coffeelover


    Ohh, I was like that too when I dropped down in second year and everyone was doing volume and area, loved it tbh.pacman.gif

    Then we moved on to algebra and equations and I always sucked at those.
    Yah, you prob did a lot of the stuff before, I think we're using the honours JC book at the mo.

    Haha ya I'll probably start to love it soon :D.. We are using the leaving cert book I think and its still simple but ones that did pass for the JC find it kinda hard though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Fellow chem students, look what I found! :D

    http://www.sciencequiz.net/lcchemistry/index.html

    Now all they need is physics and chemistry and I'm set!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭Nicole.


    I'm finding Higher Level Irish really hard, I think I can live with the poems etc but I find Foinse impossible...I've been given a comprehension and I can't understand any of it really..Is anyone else in 5th year finding this problem?


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