Students abused by scum.

Carlos_Ray

I was in Dublin city today and encountered a large group of Spanish students. We are all accustomed to them coming over every summer to learn English. They are a major boost to our economy (especially in the current climate) and from my experience they are generally good mannered and far better behaved them their Irish counterparts when abroad.

Anyway, the students were just wondering down the road chatting and laughing. They weren't bothering anybody.

As they walked on to O'Connell street , a group of about 5 sweaty pale faced tracksuit wearing junkie scum crawled out of a side street and started shouting abuse at them. 4 men in their late twenties and 1 fat beast of a heroin pin cushion. They used foul language, and one even threw a can at the frightened students. The beast woman even started on a young Spanish girl who was no older than 13!!!

A Gard who observed the situation simply told the scum to move on! It got me thinking about the scum infestation in out city and how they are basically ruining it , not only for Irish people, but for tourists who are pumping money into our economy.

In order to protect our much needed tourist income we need to clean up our streets and eradicate the scum that control it. You can't even use the liffey boardwalk on a summers day because its taken over by junkies and scum bags drinking cans and causing trouble.

If it was up to me I'd exterminate them as part of a Government process of national cleansing. Of course everybody is too politically correct here to entertain this idea, so I'm interested in hearing other solutions. How can we clean up Dublin and make it a desirable destination?

helimachoptor

You get that scum in Spain also... i've been there and im not talking about the Irish tourist hotspots.

Noopti

haha...I love how you lump those against mass extermination into the "PC Brigade".....

SoulTrader

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

If it was up to me I'd exterminate them as part of a Government process of national cleansing. Of course everybody is too politically correct here to entertain this idea

It's political correctness gone mad!

RobBaxter

Ya if there was a button to kill those scumbags/knackers I would have no hesitation pressing it a million times

stovelid

A group of kids started on another group of kids in the centre of a major city.

Have the army been informed?

gurramok

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

If it was up to me I'd exterminate them as part of a Government process of national cleansing. Of course everybody is too politically correct here to entertain this idea, so I'm interested in hearing other solutions. How can we clean up Dublin and make it a desirable destination?

Clean up the justice system and actually police the area properly.

The boardwalk is a no-go area, maybe move the drug clinics to a posh part of D4 and you'll be guaranteed you will find action being taken!

gu10

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

If it was up to me I'd exterminate them as part of a Government process of national cleansing. Of course everybody is too politically correct here to entertain this idea, so I'm interested in hearing other solutions. How can we clean up Dublin and make it a desirable destination?

Nope. I'm definitely not too politically correct and I'm entertaining the idea. but you will need to do a lot more than get rid of the scumbags to make dublin desirable. i'd say the only way to make it desirable is to level it and start from scratch. even if D4 was leveled it would be a good start

rubberdiddies

Avoid dublin city. Simple.

Guards really don't care or have the will to do anything about the scummers. If more people avoided the city centre cos of junkie scum then business would lose out and put pressure on council/government/guards etc. Not gonna happen though so best to stay away.

One advantage to being a junkie is knowing guards won't go near you

easyeason3

No matter where you go in the world every place has some degree of scum.
Dublin is no different & it's getting a bit annoying that people think Dublin is an exception to the norm.

Menengroth™

we should ship them off to somewhere remote and desolate where we don't have to look at them.



yes, this is a Roscommon joke.

bonerm

I was thinking we could put a sniper on top of the spire who has the legal right to shoot any person within 1000 yards of his position that falls under all of the following parameters:

1) wearing a tracksuit
2) standing in place for more than 2minutes
3) holding a bottle of fanta.

DrumSteve

bonerm wrote: »

I was thinking we could put a sniper on top of the spire who has the legal right to shoot any person within 1000 yards of his position that falls under all of the following parameters:

1) wearing a tracksuit
2) standing in place for more than 2minutes
3) holding a bottle of fanta.

he'd want good balance.

Kasabian

bonerm wrote: »

I was thinking we could put a sniper on top of the spire who has the legal right to shoot any person within 1000 yards of his position that falls under all of the following parameters:

1) wearing a tracksuit
2) standing in place for more than 2minutes
3) holding a bottle of fanta.

He'll be busy in October

SoulTrader

DrumSteve wrote: »

he'd want good balance.

Or a good lubricant.

dvpower

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

If it was up to me I'd exterminate them as part of a Government process of national cleansing. Of course everybody is too politically correct here to entertain this idea, so I'm interested in hearing other solutions.

Yes. That's right. Its political correctness that prevents us from exterminating junkies.:rolleyes:

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

How can we clean up Dublin and make it a desirable destination?

How about a system of gas chambers. That'd be a tourist draw.

Scuid Mhór

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

I was in Dublin city today and encountered a large group of Spanish students. We are all accustomed to them coming over every summer to learn English. They are a major boost to our economy (especially in the current climate) and from my experience they are generally good mannered and far better behaved them their Irish counterparts when abroad.

Anyway, the students were just wondering down the road chatting and laughing. They weren't bothering anybody.

As they walked on to O'Connell street , a group of about 5 sweaty pale faced tracksuit wearing junkie scum crawled out of a side street and started shouting abuse at them. 4 men in their late twenties and 1 fat beast of a heroin pin cushion. They used foul language, and one even threw a can at the frightened students. The beast woman even started on a young Spanish girl who was no older than 13!!!

A Gard who observed the situation simply told the scum to move on! It got me thinking about the scum infestation in out city and how they are basically ruining it , not only for Irish people, but for tourists who are pumping money into our economy.

In order to protect our much needed tourist income we need to clean up our streets and eradicate the scum that control it. You can't even use the liffey boardwalk on a summers day because its taken over by junkies and scum bags drinking cans and causing trouble.

If it was up to me I'd exterminate them as part of a Government process of national cleansing. Of course everybody is too politically correct here to entertain this idea, so I'm interested in hearing other solutions. How can we clean up Dublin and make it a desirable destination?

you have an interesting view on what the term 'politically correct' means, carlos_ray.

fakearms123

Do you know what I was just thinking about that today, I have lived in Dublin for 20 years and I have never witnessed so much scumbagary in one city in all my life, from travelling to different cities I can confirm that Dublin is by far the worst city in Europe anyway for scumbags. You cant walk two feet in Dublin without being harrassed by some junkie who is looking for 1 euro for the "bus". I was just in London over the weekend and I didnt have a single problem the whole weekend and we walked around everywhere, its a huge pity because it gives Ireland a mad name and we need tourism around this time just like every other city, those scumbags are everywhere, its like the plague or zombie infestation. I remember an american friend of mine asked me when he was over are they homeless and I said most of them have homes to go to, he was shocked.

CrackisWhack

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

If it was up to me I'd exterminate them as part of a Government process of national cleansing. Of course everybody is too politically correct here to entertain this idea

:pac::pac::pac:


Well they're would be no tourists coming here if you were in charge!

Noopti

They should have a garda van pick up groups of scum harassing people and then drop them off one by one in remote areas of the city, forcing them to make their lonely way back to their wretched hive of scum and villany.

IvyTheTerrible

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

...
Anyway, the students were just wondering down the road chatting and laughing. They weren't bothering anybody....

Were you wearing earplugs?

Hazys

helimachoptor wrote: »

You get that scum in Spain also... i've been there and im not talking about the Irish tourist hotspots.

Lol, first response is "Well, they do it in Spain too".


Whats is this first class debating? "Well they do it too" argument will really help improve downtown dublin.

I was going to care until you said it was those annoying spanish students

kfallon

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

If it was up to me I'd exterminate them as part of a Government process of national cleansing. Of course everybody is too politically correct here to entertain this idea, so I'm interested in hearing other solutions. How can we clean up Dublin and make it a desirable destination?

Sir, I salute you

reprazant

easyeason3 wrote: »

No matter where you go in the world every place has some degree of scum.
Dublin is no different & it's getting a bit annoying that people think Dublin is an exception to the norm.

Agreed.

I wonder have these people actually left Dublin before.

Last time I was in Rome, my friend got his wallet & camera robbed, when in Barcelona two of my friends got wallets, cameras, watches and one got his runner robbed while on the metro, in Madrid a protest turned into a full scale riot between the knackers from the suburbs & the cops; In San Francisco, I saw one person getting shot and another getting stabbed my a midget, also junkies everywhere.

Nothing like that has ever happened to me in Dublin.

storm2811

There's scumbags everywhere,not much we can do but ignore them and keep giving them suspended sentences...

easyeason3

And by the way Carlos Ray those foreign students are ignorant little fcukers. They think they own the fcuking footpaths.
And theres always a few of them wearing glasses that look like something from the 70's.
And they wear backpacks everywhere, they probably sleep with a bag on their back.
And for students that come over to emerse themselves in Irish culture they seem to give most of the time walking around in packs not really doing anything.

Procasinator

Noopti wrote: »

They should have a garda van pick up groups of scum harassing people and then drop them off one by one in remote areas of the city, forcing them to make their lonely way back to their wretched hive of scum and villany.

Nah, you'll just spread the scum.

jordan..

thats the real world we live in, you cant just put all the people you dont like onto a boat and push it out to see!
Can nobody think of a constructive solution? For one the government allows them too much entitlements

Carlos_Ray

Giant Squid wrote: »

you have an interesting view on what the term 'politically correct' means, carlos_ray.

I was basically referring to the general views on this site. If you say, Dublin is a kip ( Which it is, and I am from there), people will no doubt say ," you get scum everywhere" just so they seem balanced and fair. However, I grew up in many different countries ( due to my fathers job) and without a doubt, Dublin has the highest level of scum for a small western capital city.

True every City has scum, but come on, they basically patrol our main streets with impunity, drinking, drug taking , and abusing people. Its a disgrace.

Morlar

fakearms123 wrote: »

I have lived in Dublin for 20 years and I have never witnessed so much scumbagary in one city in all my life,

I have lived in Dublin and travelled/lived/worked in other cities in europe. Dublin is not the worst in terms of street criminality by a long shot.

It's funny though - if the OP was about roma street criminality and looking to exterminate all of them the OP would probably have gotten infracted by now.

WesternZulu

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

How can we clean up Dublin and make it a desirable destination?

Get rid of all the dubs in the city.

In fairness, they ruin the place for the rest of us.

bonerm

DrumSteve wrote: »

he'd want good balance.

I was thinking maybe putting a crows nest at the top and a pulley system so that hot drinks and sandwiches could be delivered to him whilst he's on shift.

Ya know, spruce it up a little.

brianthebard

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

I was in Dublin city today and encountered a large group of Spanish students. We are all accustomed to them coming over every summer to learn English. They are a major boost to our economy (especially in the current climate) and from my experience they are generally good mannered and far better behaved them their Irish counterparts when abroad.

That was the first fault in your post there, everything went downhill from there on.

Diabhal Beag

Do scum not abuse everybody? If not I say we sue for equality

Chairman Meow

Those students are annoying as ****. Is it a rule in Spain that everyone has to talk over each other all at once and in the loudest voice possible?

bonerm

Kasabian wrote: »

He'll be busy in October

If anything it'd be a bonus for Marathon runners. Help motivate them to continue going.

Hasmunch

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Do scum not abuse everybody? If not I say we sue for equality

Scum are equal oppurtunity annoyers

WindSock

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

They are a major boost to our economy

Lol 1

and from my experience they are generally good mannered

Lol 2

Morlar

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Those students are annoying as ****. Is it a rule in Spain that everyone has to talk over each other all at once and in the loudest voice possible?

I can handle the 'Our VOICES GO UP TO 11' stuff it's the 'we are going to walk down the footpath 4-abreast so that there is no room for anyone else' bs that ticks me off.

TechnoPool

bonerm wrote: »

I was thinking we could put a sniper on top of the spire who has the legal right to shoot any person within 1000 yards of his position that falls under all of the following parameters:

1) wearing a tracksuit
2) standing in place for more than 2minutes
3) holding a bottle of fanta.

hey i like fanta

Pace2008

Term "scum" used over three times in OP; post disregarded.

AnonoBoy

My shower is getting awful abuse from scum these days.

Must remember to buy some Mr. Muscle on the way home.

storm2811

AnonoBoy wrote: »

My shower is getting awful abuse from scum these days.

Must remember to buy some Mr. Muscle on the way home.

Or Cilit Bang,Bang! and...your shower head smells like vinegar.

twinQuins

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

I was basically referring to the general views on this site. If you say, Dublin is a kip ( Which it is, and I am from there), people will no doubt say ," you get scum everywhere" just so they seem balanced and fair.

If by "balanced and fair" you mean "talking actual sense rather than sensationalist rubbish" then I agree.

"PC gone mad!!!!!!" has become the calling-card of those too stupid to think beyond what the red-tops tell them.

Pauleta

Ive been saying this for ages, we need to put anti-social behavior orders on junkies and other scum from the city centre and make sure they cant go into city center. I always find it strange how Irish people can complain about students coming over considering the amount of Irish people that go to Spain every summer and absolutely trash the place.

I would much rather some loud talking spanish students over a bunch of pissed Irish smashing up hotel rooms, pissing on the streets and constantly getting in fights.

muppetkiller

While I agree with the OP in some regard I think it would be extreme to wipe out all the Spanish students...we should keep the hot ones.

Oink

Pauleta wrote: »

[...] make sure they cant go into city center. [...]

So they'll be doing the same thing, just somewhere else. I can't think of a public place where it would be ok for them to act like they do.

mailforkev

Poison-gassing the city centre isn't too bad an idea at this stage.

Of course there would be a warning broadcast to the masses in advance. But only on Newstalk and in the Irish Times. This would ensure that the scum don't get it and get wiped out leaving the city for the rest of us to enjoy.

A few signs on the buses in Spanish and Italian telling the students to sit down and lower the volume wouldn't go amiss too.

Jeboa Safari

Gardai should actually do something instead of just telling them to move on
I hate having to go into the city centre, between junkies, scumbags, beggers, and those annoying charity workers pretending to be your best friend looking for your bank details the place is a kip

carlop

Morlar wrote: »

I can handle the 'Our VOICES GO UP TO 11' stuff it's the 'we are going to walk down the footpath 4-abreast so that there is no room for anyone else' bs that ticks me off.

As annoying as they can be, I teach in a language school so I know full well how loud they are, they bring in a lot of money to the economy. Apart from language schools, teachers and host families who all benefit, they buy a huge amount of stuff when they're over.

A place like Carrolls must be dependent on them at this point, as every time I bring a group in to Dublin every student buys at least one thing. They also buy lots of clothes, shoes etc.

The school I work in currently has 250 kids over (not all Spanish). As far as I know, they pay around 600 a week to be here, and I'd say they easily spend another 200 while here. That's 200,000 in one week, in one school only, going into our economy. In a time of recession, I'm willing to be slightly discomforted on the footpath for that kind of boost to the economy.