Tesco in Ballybeg

Sully

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Planning permission for the new Waterford shopping Centre was given in 2006. I'll doubt if it will go ahead now though.



http://archives.tcm.ie/waterfordnews/2006/11/10/story23829.asp

Planning permission expires after 5 years IIRC.

wmpdd3

suirfire wrote: »

Tesco's are opening the new store in Ballybeg and closing down other one.........cant say yet which store that is but i think we all know

Yet again something good comes to Waterford and people try to knock it as it not bang in the center of town :rolleyes:

No plans for Lisduggan to close afaik.

tombliboo83

Tesco going to Ballybeg is a great thing, also the dounut effect of development is unstoppable. It's great to be able to easily access large stores with free parking. Perhaps the way forward for the city centre is in specialist retail and continued promotion of tourism i.e. viking quater. Imo the development of city square, while necessary for employment and demand, was short sighted seeing how they built on the old viking city. I too will go to Tesco ballybeg instead of Ardkeen.

merlante

I remember when Tesco Ardkeen was announced, everyone assumed Tesco Poleberry was closing.

Odats

Didn't the head of ops in Ireland for Tesco on Billy Mac last week say that the one in Ballybeg is an Express Tesco not a full blown Extra one like out in Ardkeen. Whatever an Express store is probably on a smaller scale.

dayshah

Odats wrote: »

Didn't the head of ops in Ireland for Tesco on Billy Mac last week say that the one in Ballybeg is an Express Tesco not a full blown Extra one like out in Ardkeen. Whatever an Express store is probably on a smaller scale.

Its like a Spar/Centra. Don't see how that would create 120 jobs (unless its just during construction, but even at that its a bit much.

Kracken

What annoys me, is all the ppl nay saying. Even though who don't live waterford or only commute from far away so it makes no difference to you.

Tesco and other such places don't go to the city centre because certain waterford ppl don't want them there and they have either financial or political backing and as such they stop it.

So i say far dues to them for going where they can, they are trying to bring something to the city in general.

And by the way the city has been dead for a lot longer than we realise, i have been in this city for 20 odd years and its been singing its swansong since then...

Sully

I cant see that Tesco being an "Express" Tesco. Express Tesco is usually around the size of Centra/Spar afaik and this is much bigger by the looks.

EDIT: Looking at the planning permission - its going to be a single story store with parking, off licence and ATM. Separate area for medical center, and other retail units including Credit Union and Cafe. They also got permission to build a petrol station. The main building will be 3,963m2 gross.

ziedth

Def not an express,

The whole point if them is to be near apartments and that. Plus, like the lads said they wouldn't be any bigger the centra on the quay.

MisterCrown

Article here says that it will open on November 22nd. Can anyone confirm this ??

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://www.waterpol.org/index.php/component/content/article/1-aktualnosci/547-1000-poda-o-prac-w-tesco&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtesco%2Bballybeg%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26tbo%3D1%26rlz%3D1T4GZAZ_enIE389IE389%26tbs%3Dqdr:w%26prmd%3Div&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgPsCMj3yc3VzzE7jmEUZIdTWJsFg

angry_fox

Wonder whos got the job doing security at tescos ballybeg?? Hope they are well paid for it

jo06555

angry_fox wrote: »

Wonder whos got the job doing security at tescos ballybeg?? Hope they are well paid for it

danjo-xx

Is the 3rd Aldi on it's way out that direction....cork road?

Chris P. Bacon

danjo-xx wrote: »

Is the 3rd Aldi on it's way out that direction....cork road?

Yeah in the the glass factorys employee car park,at the back of the maxol garage.

mark17

This was a lovely green area and now it's been concreted over and this Tesco
Store and car park put up. Now, I have no problem with Tesco putting up a
shop, but just a few hundred yards away there is a big development lying idle,
with a roundabout access, car park, huge retail units finished. Now I would
like to know why did our City Councilors allowed green fields be developed for
Tesco and this other place lying idle and beginning to become derelict. The
place would easly have met Tesco's requirements no bother. I think it's called
Waterford Retail Park or something like that, there is even easy access to it
from the outer ring road, infact it's on the outer ring road. None of this makes
any sense to me at all.

JohnC.

mark17 wrote: »

Theplace would easly have met Tesco's requirements no bother.

Are you sure?

Sully

That development would not suit Tesco. Not only do no retailers want to touch it due to its design flaw, but Tesco have different building requirements (environment related) and want to build a petrol station also.

mark17

Sully wrote: »

That development would not suit Tesco. Not only do no retailers want to touch it due to its design flaw, but Tesco have different building requirements (environment related) and want to build a petrol station also.

A few modifications certainly, or it could have been knocked and rebuilt. What
are the design flaws, and if so how did they get planning permission for it with design flaws?

Sully

mark17 wrote: »

A few modifications certainly, or it could have been knocked and rebuilt. What
are the design flaws, and if so how did they get planning permission for it with design flaws?

Knocking and rebuilding would have cost a lot more money and that means knocking down a whole complex, which for a start isn't even for sale or owned by them or the council. The building should be front facing but due to an internal cock up, it wasn't, so nobody uses it.

Tesco have the same "structure" that they use. Ever notice they all look the same from the outside at least? They start for scratch with the exact same equipment and the building is generally designed to be a bit more eco-friendly. They only seem to enter already built units for there smaller shops.

Your also forgetting they want to build a petrol station.

JohnC.

Putting a grocery store in a building not designed for it can be a right pain in the rear too. See Dunnes in City Square, which didn't have grocery until Darrers closed. The customers won't see the problems caused, but ask some staff there about the lack of space and the awkward goods inwards and stock room areas, among other problems.

mark17

Sully wrote: »

Knocking and rebuilding would have cost a lot more money and that means knocking down a whole complex, which for a start isn't even for sale or owned by them or the council. The building should be front facing but due to an internal cock up, it wasn't, so nobody uses it.

Tesco have the same "structure" that they use. Ever notice they all look the same from the outside at least? They start for scratch with the exact same equipment and the building is generally designed to be a bit more eco-friendly. They only seem to enter already built units for there smaller shops.

Your also forgetting they want to build a petrol station.

I accept your point fully and I'm not a "Green Freak" either, and I don't want
to deviate from the original thread too much, but in the square mile this
new Tesco is situated is a lovely green area within the city boundary and I
feel it should be preserved. Especially when there are vacant units all over
this square mile. examples, Sheridans old showroom, N.T.L. building, Waterford
Retail Park, a few vacant units in the Six Cross Roads Business Park and of
course TK MAX. Now they are going to build a cinema and shopping complex at the Crystal Sports complex,
and a cinema lying idle in the centre of the City.
I'm sorry but it doesn't make any sense, and this N.A.M.A. is trying to sell
vacant units for the tax-payer. That's all, just my observation...

Professey Chin

mark17 wrote: »

I accept your point fully and I'm not a "Green Freak" either, and I don't want
to deviate from the original thread too much, but in the square mile this
new Tesco is situated is a lovely green area within the city boundary and I
feel it should be preserved. Especially when there are vacant units all over
this square mile. examples, Sheridans old showroom, N.T.L. building, Waterford
Retail Park, a few vacant units in the Six Cross Roads Business Park and of
course TK MAX. Now they are going to build a cinema and shopping complex at the Crystal Sports complex,
and a cinema lying idle in the centre of the City.
I'm sorry but it doesn't make any sense, and this N.A.M.A. is trying to sell
vacant units for the tax-payer. That's all, just my observation...

None of these are suitable for a Tesco though.Size, layout, area for petrol station, entry points, delivery entry, stockroom area.You can take a pick of reasons

dayshah

mark17 wrote: »

I accept your point fully and I'm not a "Green Freak" either, and I don't want
to deviate from the original thread too much, but in the square mile this
new Tesco is situated is a lovely green area within the city boundary and I
feel it should be preserved. Especially when there are vacant units all over
this square mile. examples, Sheridans old showroom, N.T.L. building, Waterford
Retail Park, a few vacant units in the Six Cross Roads Business Park and of
course TK MAX.

I agree with your general point. Not enough of Waterford is zoned for green/recreational. It would be good to demolish some of the (badly) developed buildings, and then put Tescos there. I think Sheridans would be too far out for people living in Ballybeg.

On a positive note at least the dump will be made into a green parkland.

wellbutty

Sully wrote: »

The building should be front facing but due to an internal cock up, it wasn't, so nobody uses it.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how someone could allow their building to be fully finished before noticing there's something slightly wrong with it...it's back to front!