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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭connie147


    Just want to thank the posters who go out of yere way to post information that makes sense to a beginner like me. (note Im still learning and have to look up some of the shortened lingo).

    I know its a minefield out there, but reading the various threads here on boards has made the introduction much easier to follow and gives great advice on where and how to go about reading up on options.

    Connie


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Do you get caught for the 8 year rule on investment funds ? Ie SMT, Allianz etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Saudades


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Do you get caught for the 8 year rule on investment funds ? Ie SMT, Allianz etc

    No, the 8 year rule doesn't (currently) apply to any Investment Trust.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Can we please for the love of god get the tax situation for Ireland stickied?

    Every 10 posts its a copy and paste job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Can anyone recommend a good app that notifies you of company news? I don't mean general business news, but more like that you're able to tag individual companies and it would send you push notifications as soon as relevant news is announced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend a good app that notifies you of company news? I don't mean general business news, but more like that you're able to tag individual companies and it would send you push notifications as soon as relevant news is announced.

    Seeking Alpha. Create your portfolio and you can filter all of the news by your portfolio. Then on the app you can set which alerts go to email or to your app or both.

    Realistically I filter all of my Seeking Alpha emails into one group so I can skim down them in my email app and have disabled notifications on my phone for the app. Getting alerted every time there's news on your companies can be annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,471 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Anyone got any thoughts on Match Group Inc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Seeking Alpha. Create your portfolio and you can filter all of the news by your portfolio. Then on the app you can set which alerts go to email or to your app or both.

    Realistically I filter all of my Seeking Alpha emails into one group so I can skim down them in my email app and have disabled notifications on my phone for the app. Getting alerted every time there's news on your companies can be annoying.

    Am I right in saying that's only for US markets? Can't seem to find any tickers for any UK companies for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭ddarcy


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Am I right in saying that's only for US markets? Can't seem to find any tickers for any UK companies for example.

    They have non-us as well. It’s just a bit hidden :)

    For instance Tesco is tscdf and Volkswagen is vwapy.

    If you’re only looking for news, this should be good enough. I can trade those symbols, which I believe is a proxy to the London stock exchange and Frankfurt. But seeking alpha should give you the news regardless, so should be what you’re looking for.

    You can also try yahoo finance, it collects everything and gives everything for you. Not sure if you can email one you create your portfolio though, I haven’t tried it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭blah


    I fairly new to this but I am doing well over the last few weeks with ARGO blockchain. Should I put a stop loss in place in case there's a big drop? Obviously if it drops below the stop and bounces back I will lose out on some gains. Just wondering what people do for these kind of unrealised gains.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,450 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    blah wrote: »
    I fairly new to this but I am doing well over the last few weeks with ARGO blockchain. Should I put a stop loss in place in case there's a big drop? Obviously if it drops below the stop and bounces back I will lose out on some gains. Just wondering what people do for these kind of unrealised gains.
    Unless you need the money this year, I think you're still safe with Argo, it had its monthly trading update today, company still moving very positively in the right direction. They're bringing more mining machines online over the next few months so it's only going to get better each month. There's a possibility it lists on the Nasdaq too over the summer so it'll jump a nice bit when it gets to there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭ddarcy


    blah wrote: »
    I fairly new to this but I am doing well over the last few weeks with ARGO blockchain. Should I put a stop loss in place in case there's a big drop? Obviously if it drops below the stop and bounces back I will lose out on some gains. Just wondering what people do for these kind of unrealised gains.

    It always good to have a stop loss. Maybe look at a trailing stop loss. If it drops below you can always buy back in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Have €500 to €1000 to invest / save monthly.
    Don't really have time or knowledge to be watching daily for investing so was thinking of setting an investment PIE on T212 with the following investment trusts

    Monks Inv Trust 50% ( good mix)
    Scottish MT 15% (riskier than Allianz)
    Allianz Tech 15% ( safer than all in SMT)
    Pacific Horizon 15% ( best Asian one I can put in )
    Hipgnosis Songs 5% ( an alternative kicker )

    Long term goal is to save for 8 - 10 years and see then.
    Any opinions on above appreciated.

    Bob24 wrote: »
    I personally wouldn’t combine Scottish Mortgage and Pacific Horizon, unless you are clearly aware and happy with their correlations.

    Both are managed by the same investment firm and share the same investment strategy (obviously besides the geographical restriction for Pacific Horizon which could be considered an Asia-only Scottish Mortgage). I.e. they are likely to have overlaps and to be quite correlated.

    Just to point out, the very scenario I was alluding to is now playing out: Scottish Mortgages and Pacific Horizon taking a big plunge at the same time because there is a rotation away form tech and innovation stocks.


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    Turns out trading 212 may have done me a solid in not letting me sign up yet!

    Monks deffo more "solid" than SMT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭crystalbrite


    Bob24 wrote: »
    Just to point out, the very scenario I was alluding to is now playing out: Scottish Mortgages and Pacific Horizon taking a big plunge at the same time because there is a rotation away form tech and innovation stocks.

    I can't find any of these investment trusts on Degiro.

    Are these all on trading 212?

    Is trading 212 better than Degiro for an Irish person if you want to invest in Investment Trusts?

    Also I think I've read that T212 allows you to buy fractional shares and set up a Pie chart to split your monthly money deposit between.

    I have a Degiro account but haven't invested in anything yet. Maybe it's better now to change over to T212 before I start.

    Anyone have a strong opinion/preference of Degiro vs T212 or vice versa?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    I can't find any of these investment trusts on Degiro.

    Are these all on trading 212?

    Is trading 212 better than Degiro for an Irish person if you want to invest in Investment Trusts?

    Also I think I've read that T212 allows you to buy fractional shares and set up a Pie chart to split your monthly money deposit between.

    I have a Degiro account but haven't invested in anything yet. Maybe it's better now to change over to T212 before I start.

    Anyone have a strong opinion/preference of Degiro vs T212 or vice versa?

    T212 is more polished and has cheaper fees (well, no fees). Basically it is trying to make trading/investment more fun and accessible.

    But I’d say DEGIRO is more of a proper broker as in it gives access to more markets and doesn’t lock you into their platform (unless things have changed T212 doesn’t allow to transfer positions from and to another broker, which IMO is rather dodgy).

    Specifically on Investment Trusts though, for some reason DEGIRO has delisted many of them recently and is refusing to give a clear explanation (you’ll find some posts asking them on social media and they just say “risk management” or “compliance” as a token excuse while all other brokers are fine with these trusts). This is one reason I now find them hard to recommend for an Irish long term investor (since ITs are a great véhicule for us).


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    Is there another broker available in Ireland that allows fractional trading and also allows you to transfer shares to another broker if needs be?

    (I know of revolut but would rather not use them).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Is there another broker available in Ireland that allows fractional trading and also allows you to transfer shares to another broker if needs be?

    (I know of revolut but would rather not use them).

    Interactive Brokers which is on of the most respected brokers in the world is available to Irish residents, and I believe they offer fractional shares, but it might be mostly with US equities.

    It is aimed at professional and sophisticated investors though, so the UI doesn’t look as polished and offers a lot more options competed to T212 or DEGIRO, which is bound to be intimidating for someone who is just getting started. Fees are competitive with DEGIRO but there is a minimum monthly send of 10 euros if the portfolio value is below 100k.

    So it has some drawbacks for a beginner but it is very reliable and probably offers the best market reach you can get as an Irish individual investor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭RMDrive


    Bob24 wrote: »
    T212 is more polished and has cheaper fees (well, no fees). Basically it is trying to make trading/investment more fun and accessible.

    But I’d say DEGIRO is more of a proper broker as in it gives access to more markets and doesn’t lock you into their platform (unless things have changed T212 doesn’t allow to transfer positions from and to another broker, which IMO is rather dodgy).

    Specifically on Investment Trusts though, for some reason DEGIRO has delisted many of them recently and is refusing to give a clear explanation (you’ll find some posts asking them on social media and they just say “risk management” or “compliance” as a token excuse while all other brokers are fine with these trusts). This is one reason I now find them hard to recommend for an Irish long term investor (since ITs are a great véhicule for us).

    If it wasn't for the ETF taxing setup in Ireland, would this still be the case?


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    Bob24 wrote: »
    Interactive Brokers which is on of the most respected brokers in the world is available to Irish residents, and I believe they offer fractional shares, but it might be mostly with US equities.

    It is aimed at professional and sophisticated investors though, so the UI doesn’t look as polished and offers a lot more options competed to T212 or DEGIRO, which is bound to be intimidating for someone who is just getting started. Fees are competitive with DEGIRO but there is a minimum monthly send of 10 euros if the portfolio value is below 100k.

    So it has some drawbacks for a beginner but it is very reliable and probably offers the best market reach you can get as an Irish individual investor.
    Thanks.

    My initial plan had been to use T212 until I built to a substantial amount, then transfer to something more "reliable" at that stage (say in 5 years maybe, or longer). But neither T212, Etoro or revolut offer the option to move your shares, instead you have to sell everything (which means TAX) and move cash. I did not realize this. This is a non runner for me. (Revolut and T212 say share transfer will be available "in the future" but who knows).

    Given this, I had then considered sacrificing the option to buy fractional and use DeGiro, however these appear to not offer a number of Investment Trusts I would like, which will be the backbone of my portfolio, ruling this option out.

    So basically, by default, the only option really left is interactive brokers? I will have to investigate fee structures. A tenner a month is ok, but I will have to calculate how best to carry out my investments to avoid exceeding that and see if there are any other fees that could cripple my gains. I will be investing only 5k or so a year, initially (progressively reaching 10k per year after 7 years), and had planned to regularly top up my holdings (6 to 10) with smallish amounts every fortnightly payday or so (hence desire for fractional), this would have to change and was probably a bad idea to begin with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    RMDrive wrote: »
    If it wasn't for the ETF taxing setup in Ireland, would this still be the case?

    It would remove some of their attraction, but I think I would still like them.

    Keeping the debate on whether active management can beat indexes in the long term aside, I think one thing ITs can do which passive ETFs can’t is multi asset category dynamic allocations or string investment.

    For exemple something like Ruffer which which keeps an open mind to buy any asset or financial instrument with the purpose of growing capital faster than inflation and limiting volatility is an interesting alternative to savings accounts IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Thanks.

    My initial plan had been to use T212 until I built to a substantial amount, then transfer to something more "reliable" at that stage (say in 5 years maybe, or longer). But neither T212, Etoro or revolut offer the option to move your shares, instead you have to sell everything (which means TAX) and move cash. I did not realize this. This is a non runner for me. (Revolut and T212 say share transfer will be available "in the future" but who knows).

    Given this, I had then considered sacrificing the option to buy fractional and use DeGiro, however these appear to not offer a number of Investment Trusts I would like, which will be the backbone of my portfolio, ruling this option out.

    So basically, by default, the only option really left is interactive brokers? I will have to investigate fee structures. A tenner a month is ok, but I will have to calculate how best to carry out my investments to avoid exceeding that and see if there are any other fees that could cripple my gains. I will be investing only 5k or so a year, initially (progressively reaching 10k per year after 7 years), and had planned to regularly top up my holdings (6 to 10) with smallish amounts every fortnightly payday or so (hence desire for fractional), this would have to change and was probably a bad idea to begin with.

    Yeah until recently I would have recommended DEGIRO to you because it is easier to use and the fee structure is easier to understand, but unless they resolve the Investment Trusts issue they are not suitable for what you want to do so it defaults to Interactive Brokers (maybe someone else has a better suggestion though ...).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    pocketdooz wrote: »
    Do you really get 7-8% in the credit union?

    I dont think so.

    .

    Definitely not - no dividend this year either. - I’m in one of the biggest - can’t see the sum on this post - credit unions are returning shares and putting limits 20/30 k in shares. - it’s costing them money -
    Have my doubts about this claim. Also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    Thanks.

    My initial plan had been to use T212 until I built to a substantial amount, then transfer to something more "reliable" at that stage (say in 5 years maybe, or longer). But neither T212, Etoro or revolut offer the option to move your shares, instead you have to sell everything (which means TAX) and move cash. I did not realize this. This is a non runner for me. (Revolut and T212 say share transfer will be available "in the future" but who knows).

    Given this, I had then considered sacrificing the option to buy fractional and use DeGiro, however these appear to not offer a number of Investment Trusts I would like, which will be the backbone of my portfolio, ruling this option out.

    So basically, by default, the only option really left is interactive brokers? I will have to investigate fee structures. A tenner a month is ok, but I will have to calculate how best to carry out my investments to avoid exceeding that and see if there are any other fees that could cripple my gains. I will be investing only 5k or so a year, initially (progressively reaching 10k per year after 7 years), and had planned to regularly top up my holdings (6 to 10) with smallish amounts every fortnightly payday or so (hence desire for fractional), this would have to change and was probably a bad idea to begin with.

    Obviously everybody's situation is different but a couple of considerations for your strategy.

    1: You should sell at least enough every year to make €1270 profit (or that times 2 if you have a spouse that invests). So if you sold in T212 / Degiro you could buy back in Interactive Brokers.

    2: If you don't sell after 8 years you have to pay tax anyway. Thank you Revenue for adding an extra complicated hoop to jump through.

    3: My missus has a share account and coincidentally when when I sell shares in my account she buys them in her account for a year. So no bed & breakfasting issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭crystalbrite


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Obviously everybody's situation is different but a couple of considerations for your strategy.

    1: You should sell at least enough every year to make €1270 profit (or that times 2 if you have a spouse that invests). So if you sold in T212 / Degiro you could buy back in Interactive Brokers.

    2: If you don't sell after 8 years you have to pay tax anyway. Thank you Revenue for adding an extra complicated hoop to jump through.

    3: My missus has a share account and coincidentally when when I sell shares in my account she buys them in her account for a year. So no bed & breakfasting issue.

    If you have shares in your account and your spouse has shares in theirs I recommend putting a spreadsheet together in Excel or Google Sheets. You can keep track of all your shares easily.
    They're not hard to do and the prices updated immediately (e.g. no 15 minute wait ala Degiro). And it's handy for tracking where you are (and in comparison to where you were a month ago or 6)


    Are you saying the 8 year tax rule now applies to all shares/stocks and not just ETFs?


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    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Obviously everybody's situation is different but a couple of considerations for your strategy.

    1: You should sell at least enough every year to make €1270 profit (or that times 2 if you have a spouse that invests). So if you sold in T212 / Degiro you could buy back in Interactive Brokers.

    2: If you don't sell after 8 years you have to pay tax anyway. Thank you Revenue for adding an extra complicated hoop to jump through.

    3: My missus has a share account and coincidentally when when I sell shares in my account she buys them in her account for a year. So no bed & breakfasting issue.

    If you have shares in your account and your spouse has shares in theirs I recommend putting a spreadsheet together in Excel or Google Sheets. You can keep track of all your shares easily.
    They're not hard to do and the prices updated immediately (e.g. no 15 minute wait ala Degiro). And it's handy for tracking where you are (and in comparison to where you were a month ago or 6)
    Not married, but the "fun" of demonstrating that the funds were my spouses and not mine to revenue when/if audited would not e something I would relish.



    I think you are wrong on the 8 years, that's EFTs you are thinking of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24



    I think you are wrong on the 8 years, that's EFTs you are thinking of

    Yep, you’re correct.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭TalleyRand83


    Anyone ever use the lazy option of copyportfolio on etoro?

    I’m look at the “in the game” copy which is basically nearly all the gaming stocks out there and the other is “food tech” which is in the food, agri, related businesses.

    Both seem like good spread of stocks and seemingly a positive track record for each.

    Straight forward enough?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Just an aside.

    Mistake on current Form cg1 attached:

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/gains-gift...-file-cgt.aspx

    Should read 2020, not 2019.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭TalleyRand83


    Anyone ever use the lazy option of copyportfolio on etoro?

    I’m look at the “in the game” copy which is basically nearly all the gaming stocks out there and the other is “food tech” which is in the food, agri, related businesses.

    Both seem like good spread of stocks and seemingly a positive track record for each.

    Straight forward enough?

    I'll try bump this for a few bites, still looking at some of the etoro managed copyportfolios.

    Have threw 1k each into above as well as "RenewableEnergy"and now looking at other grouped portfolios such as "Travel Kit" "PetPortfolio" and "CannabisCare"

    Not mad about some of these portfolios being equal split weighting per stock as does come across like they're being a bit lazy.

    But seems as good way to invest unless anyone thinks otherwise?


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    I'll try bump this for a few bites, still looking at some of the etoro managed copyportfolios.

    Have threw 1k each into above as well as "RenewableEnergy"and now looking at other grouped portfolios such as "Travel Kit" "PetPortfolio" and "CannabisCare"

    Not mad about some of these portfolios being equal split weighting per stock as does come across like they're being a bit lazy.

    But seems as good way to invest unless anyone thinks otherwise?
    I personally would not be keen on just copying some random guy on the internet.


    Also, when they re-balance the portfolio, and stocks or fractions of stocks are bought and sold, it will get messy when it comes to tax.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 peacock20


    Just a query, and I feel I'm over thinking this. With ETFs, deemed disposal is 8 years, so whether you sell or not, tax is to be paid at that time on any earnings. That's easy to grasp.
    My question, I would like to make regular monthly payments into the same ETF.
    Is deemed disposal applicable after 8 years from the first payment into the ETF, or 8 years after each and every payment in? Hardly?
    Please tell me I'm thinking too hard on this


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    peacock20 wrote: »
    Just a query, and I feel I'm over thinking this. With ETFs, deemed disposal is 8 years, so whether you sell or not, tax is to be paid at that time on any earnings. That's easy to grasp.
    My question, I would like to make regular monthly payments into the same ETF.
    Is deemed disposal applicable after 8 years from the first payment into the ETF, or 8 years after each and every payment in? Hardly?
    Please tell me I'm thinking too hard on this

    I have yet to read a definitive response. I have the read the following but I can't vouch for the source '...after 8 years from the beginning of the plan the whole plan is deemed sold even the premium paid only last month'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,450 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    peacock20 wrote: »
    Just a query, and I feel I'm over thinking this. With ETFs, deemed disposal is 8 years, so whether you sell or not, tax is to be paid at that time on any earnings. That's easy to grasp.
    My question, I would like to make regular monthly payments into the same ETF.
    Is deemed disposal applicable after 8 years from the first payment into the ETF, or 8 years after each and every payment in? Hardly?
    Please tell me I'm thinking too hard on this
    Somewhere between the two.

    If you're contributing monthly, then you'll have funds due for DD every month.

    However, you only need to pay your CGT bill once a year, so once a year, you'll tot up the 12 bills for the year, add them up on a spreadsheet, and put that number on 1 CGT form.

    That's no different to what you'd be doing if you're buying and selling shares. If you make one contribution a month, it's just 12 rows on a spreadsheet, and 12 prices to get from Yahoo Finance. Shouldn't take more than an hour, once a year to do the whole lot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭tomstud12


    Hey Guys,

    I got into forex trading while back and I just wanted to ask, do I have to pay tax or anything on my trading profits? Because I saw somewhere that in Ireland if you have a primary job and trading is just on the side that it's taken in as spread betting. Is this true? I found it hard to believe because let's say someone made €100000 in one year from trading and he also has a job I don't believe that he does not have to pay any tax on the €100000

    I'm still a bit new to forex but I've earned a bit now and wondering what I do as I wouldn't want the revenue to get onto me at the end of the year asking where I got all this money from.


  • Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭Kannon


    Spreadbetting is tax free in Ireland. Otherwise your gains are taxable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭tomstud12


    Kannon wrote: »
    Spreadbetting is tax free in Ireland. Otherwise your gains are taxable.

    Okay so as long as I have a job I won’t have to pay tax on my profits from forex if I just do forex trading since that is considered spread betting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Kid Charlemagne


    tomstud12 wrote: »
    Okay so as long as I have a job I won’t have to pay tax on my profits from forex if I just do forex trading since that is considered spread betting?

    Where are you seeing that? Unfortunately it sounds unlikely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭tomstud12


    Where are you seeing that? Unfortunately it sounds unlikely.

    Hey when I google “Do you pay tax on forex trading in Ireland” this is what I get

    Introduction to Spread Betting
    Spread betting or spread trading as it is commonly referred to in Ireland offers a tax-free and efficient way of trading the price movements of thousands of financial markets including indices, shares, forex pairs, commodities and more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    tomstud12 wrote: »
    Hey when I google “Do you pay tax on forex trading in Ireland” this is what I get

    Introduction to Spread Betting
    Spread betting or spread trading as it is commonly referred to in Ireland offers a tax-free and efficient way of trading the price movements of thousands of financial markets including indices, shares, forex pairs, commodities and more.

    It says here that disposal of non Irish currency triggers CGT though: https://www.revenue.ie/en/gains-gifts-and-inheritance/transfering-an-asset/what-do-you-pay-cgt-on.aspx

    I believe there are exceptions (for exemple if this is done as part of a business transaction) but that wouldn’t cover trading forex pairs. If there is an exception for this type of activity I’d actually like to see a source from a tax advisor or from Revenue for my own tax knowledge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Kid Charlemagne


    tomstud12 wrote: »
    Hey when I google “Do you pay tax on forex trading in Ireland” this is what I get

    Introduction to Spread Betting
    Spread betting or spread trading as it is commonly referred to in Ireland offers a tax-free and efficient way of trading the price movements of thousands of financial markets including indices, shares, forex pairs, commodities and more.

    Ah OK but that isnt forex trading. You dont actually own an asset via spread betting, youre just gambling on it's future price movement. But yeah as it is gambling it doesn't attract tax in ROI. On the flipside, if you get it wrong you've lost your investment (and more if you've leveraged it).

    There's a whole other set of risks involved there which should be understood before getting into that game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Does anyone have any suggestions for investing spare disposable income at the end of a month? I have apportioned income each month for my pension and other long-term savings (including stocks) but some months I might have spare change which I had budgeted for "entertainment" or other non-essential items.

    Say you had put aside €100 for pubs or restaurants (in non-covid times) and you ended up not spending any of it. Where would be a good place to put it? I'm thinking a higher risk investment (maybe short-term) where losing it all would not impact you long-term financially. Would buying shares in SPACs be a good option or are there any other good ideas out there?


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    VonLuck wrote: »
    Does anyone have any suggestions for investing spare disposable income at the end of a month? I have apportioned income each month for my pension and other long-term savings (including stocks) but some months I might have spare change which I had budgeted for "entertainment" or other non-essential items.

    Say you had put aside €100 for pubs or restaurants (in non-covid times) and you ended up not spending any of it. Where would be a good place to put it? I'm thinking a higher risk investment (maybe short-term) where losing it all would not impact you long-term financially. Would buying shares in SPACs be a good option or are there any other good ideas out there?
    Bitcoin or something like that maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,450 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Does anyone have any suggestions for investing spare disposable income at the end of a month? I have apportioned income each month for my pension and other long-term savings (including stocks) but some months I might have spare change which I had budgeted for "entertainment" or other non-essential items.

    Say you had put aside €100 for pubs or restaurants (in non-covid times) and you ended up not spending any of it. Where would be a good place to put it? I'm thinking a higher risk investment (maybe short-term) where losing it all would not impact you long-term financially. Would buying shares in SPACs be a good option or are there any other good ideas out there?

    SPACs are a bit out of favour at the moment, may be a bubble that's already burst. And finding the better ones probably needs more work than you'd want.

    I like the Crypto idea, Bitcoin an obvious one, Ether the other soldi one for now.

    My spare cash goes in stocks, there's always somethign I want to add to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I'm completely out of the loop on cryptocurrency so I'd have to do a good bit of research.

    Do you invest your spare cash with a long-term view of retirement etc. or do you still treat it, and the profits, as disposable e.g. putting it towards a new car?

    I'm trying to weigh up investing for the future and living in the now as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭digiman


    Is there anywhere that’s possible to dollar average every month into the likes of google or Amazon with children’s allowance money?

    I’ve got my own DEGIRO account for myself, but want to put the children’s allowance money aside for the next 16 years, any advice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,450 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    VonLuck wrote: »
    I'm completely out of the loop on cryptocurrency so I'd have to do a good bit of research.

    Do you invest your spare cash with a long-term view of retirement etc. or do you still treat it, and the profits, as disposable e.g. putting it towards a new car?

    I'm trying to weigh up investing for the future and living in the now as well.
    Mainly long term, hoping to be able to retire early and enjoy a few years of travel or living abroad my late 50's/60's, or be able to help the kids out with a house deposit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    digiman wrote: »
    Is there anywhere that’s possible to dollar average every month into the likes of google or Amazon with children’s allowance money?

    I’ve got my own DEGIRO account for myself, but want to put the children’s allowance money aside for the next 16 years, any advice?

    Trading 212 allows you to buy fractional shares. So if you have €100 a month you can buy €100 of Amazon per month consistently rather than waiting about 30 months at current prices to buy 1 share.
    Then if Amazon goes up 1%, 10%, 100% (or down) you get the same percentage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭digiman


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Trading 212 allows you to buy fractional shares. So if you have €100 a month you can buy €100 of Amazon per month consistently rather than waiting about 30 months at current prices to buy 1 share.
    Then if Amazon goes up 1%, 10%, 100% (or down) you get the same percentage.

    This looks really good and I like the feature where you can create your own types of portfolios and assign weights to each share in the portfolio and then you buy €100 of shares in the portfolio.

    Only problem is they are not taking on new customers at this time, any word when that will be lifted again?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    digiman wrote: »


    This looks really good and I like the feature where you can create your own types of portfolios and assign weights to each share in the portfolio and then you buy €100 of shares in the portfolio.

    Only problem is they are not taking on new customers at this time, any word when that will be lifted again?

    Also to echo this question, any other platforms recommended? Looking at buying SMT which degiro doesn't allow?


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