Jol to take over Fulham?

TangyZizzle

The Daily Mail says so..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1295401/Martin-Jol-set-named-new-Fulham-boss-flying-London-talks.html

"Martin Jol is set to be announced as Fulham manager by the time the team leave for their pre-season training camp in Sweden on Monday.
Jol flew to London to discuss terms on Friday and is ready to sign a contract worth around £1.5million a year to replace Roy Hodgson at Craven Cottage.

Fulham will need to thrash out a compensation package with Ajax as the former Spurs manager still has one-year left to run on his deal at the Amsterdam Arena,"

mike65

Good appointment for them if its true.

Degag

mike65 wrote: »

Good appointment for them if its true.

Agreed, thought he did a decent job at Spurs while he was there.

~Rebel~

Degag wrote: »

Agreed, thought he did a decent job at Spurs while he was there.

And has been excellent since leaving too.

flahavaj

Jesus, massive coup for Fulham, I'd have thought they were a big step down from Ajax.:eek:

TangyZizzle

From the article: "As well as a desire to return to the Barclays Premier League, concerns over the sale of the star players that helped Ajax to second in the Dutch league and Champions League qualification are understood to have helped make up Jol's mind,"

Looks like he chose a guaranteed run in the Europa League over what looks to be a less than successful Champions League push.

blueser

flahavaj wrote: »

Jesus, massive coup for Fulham, I'd have thought they were a big step down from Ajax.:eek:

Agreed. I suppose the lure of cheap shopping at Harrod's was too much to resist!

yabadabado

massive coup for fulham.he did a good job at spurs and if he had been given the players he looked for he could have been a success.

8-10

flahavaj wrote: »

Jesus, massive coup for Fulham, I'd have thought they were a big step down from Ajax.:eek:

Yeah I still don't want to believe it. He's done a great job getting us to the Champions League after so narrowly missing out in recent seasons. Also should have won the league but for that epic 0-0 with Sparta Rotterdam at home, the only game we didn't win at the ArenA in the league despite 42 shots on goal. That extra 2 points would have gotten us a 30th league title.

As for the big stars I'd imagine it's Suarez and van der Wiel he's desperate to keep. However, van der Wiel wasn't mentioned by anybody before the WC and Suarez would command a huge fee and is too good for the league. Being a selling club, I can't begrudge Luis for wanting to leave if that is the case, and after the season he's given us it's probably a good time to sell though I'd obviously hate to see it.

Jol has been a solid coach after a few dodgy years and has really formed the beginning of an exciting team which we're lucky to get every few years, the last being 2003ish-era.

If he goes, it is a huge coup for Fulham. I can't imagine he'll have the same amount of transfer power and certainly not the same amount of youth talent at his disposal, but at the end of the day Ajax are a European giant and Fulham relative minnows, but a comparison of the league's, and you can see why managing in the Premier League is a whole lot more appealing.

timetogetfit

Robbie could on his way there too

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/16/football-transfer-rumours-martin-jol-fulham

Jax Teller

Bad move for jol I think . Obviously more money in it for him I'd rather be fighting for title with Ajax Though

Lukker-

Wouldn't exactly call it a massive coup but still a great appointment.

JPA

TangyZizzle wrote: »

From the article: "As well as a desire to return to the Barclays Premier League, concerns over the sale of the star players that helped Ajax to second in the Dutch league and Champions League qualification are understood to have helped make up Jol's mind,"

Looks like he chose a guaranteed run in the Europa League over what looks to be a less than successful Champions League push.

Fulham aren't in Europe.

This would be a strange move by Jol but a big coup for Fulham.

Minstrel27

article wrote:

From the article: "As well as a desire to return to the Barclays Premier League, concerns over the sale of the star players that helped Ajax to second in the Dutch league and Champions League qualification are understood to have helped make up Jol's mind,"

I am assuming that the sale of the players was out of his control so I wouldn't blame him for leaving Ajax.

fulhamfanincork

Ajax are being jackasses.

JPA

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

Ajax are being jackasses.

Why and how?

fulhamfanincork

JPA wrote: »

Why and how?

They have been refusing to meet with Fulham to discuss a compensation package, despite Fulham having a deal in place with Jol.

They are just being awkward for the sake of it.

Mezcita

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

They have been refusing to meet with Fulham to discuss a compensation package, despite Fulham having a deal in place with Jol.

They are just being awkward for the sake of it.

Thats the point. Fulham can't agree anything with Jol until Ajax has given him permission to talk to them. He's under contract with Ajax.

Managers can't just run off to other clubs just because they get a better offer. Ajax are holding out for a decent pay off.

fulhamfanincork

Mezcita wrote: »

Thats the point. Fulham can't agree anything with Jol until Ajax has given him permission to talk to them. He's under contract with Ajax.

Managers can't just run off to other clubs just because they get a better offer. Ajax are holding out for a decent pay off.

That's what Roy Hodgson and Liverpool did to us and it is done more often than not I would say.

Ajax aren't holding out for a decent pay off, they are simply refusing to talk to us. They are just being stubborn for no reason. If they had supported their manager then they wouldn't have this problem.

Jol wants to leave, Ajax are behaving appallingly.

JPA

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

That's what Roy Hodgson and Liverpool did to us and it is done more often than not I would say.

Ajax aren't holding out for a decent pay off, they are simply refusing to talk to us. They are just being stubborn for no reason. If they had supported their manager then they wouldn't have this problem.

Jol wants to leave, Ajax are behaving appallingly.

Sure Ajax can do what they want, he's their manager and under contract.
Were Fulham even given permission to speak with him?

Minstrel27

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

That's what Roy Hodgson and Liverpool did to us and it is done more often than not I would say.

Ajax aren't holding out for a decent pay off, they are simply refusing to talk to us. They are just being stubborn for no reason. If they had supported their manager then they wouldn't have this problem.

Jol wants to leave, Ajax are behaving appallingly.

He is under contract with Ajax so they can do whatever they like with him.

CSF

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

That's what Roy Hodgson and Liverpool did to us and it is done more often than not I would say.

Ajax aren't holding out for a decent pay off, they are simply refusing to talk to us. They are just being stubborn for no reason. If they had supported their manager then they wouldn't have this problem.

Jol wants to leave, Ajax are behaving appallingly.

Grand well I hope you feel the same if someone agrees a deal with Zamora or Hangeland.

DubDani

Good Manager, but big disappointment in other areas. If you hire him you will have to get a new manager next year.

Jol was at Hamburg for one season (on a 3 year contract) and asked after one very good season to be released to be able to take over Ajax. Ajax paid Hamburg 1.4 mil. Euro to get him.

Now after one season (on a 3 year contract) at Ajax he pulls the same stunt again. Worse then some players.

CSF

DubDani wrote: »

Good Manager, but big disappointment in other areas.

You sicko.

fulhamfanincork

CSF wrote: »

Grand well I hope you feel the same if someone agrees a deal with Zamora or Hangeland.

It's already happened to us with Liverpool and how they took Hodgson, so I won't apologise for having no sympathy whatsoever for Ajax.

Mezcita

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

It's already happened to us with Liverpool and how they took Hodgson, so I won't apologise for having no sympathy whatsoever for Ajax.

I'll try and spell it out for you as you don't seem to be listening to anyone here.

Liverpool to Fulham: "Can we have Woy as manager?".
Fulham: "Hmmm... annoying. OK, for a price".
Liverpool to Woy: "Join us!, we have Torres!".
Woy: "Sold!"

Not:

Liverpool to Woy: "Join us. Don't mind your contract. It will be grand".
Woy: (Two finger salute to Fulham).

fulhamfanincork

Mezcita wrote: »

I'll try and spell it out for you as you don't seem to be listening to anyone here.

Liverpool to Fulham: "Can we have Woy as manager?".
Fulham: "Hmmm... annoying. OK, for a price".
Liverpool to Woy: "Join us!, we have Torres!".
Woy: "Sold!"

Not:

Liverpool to Woy: "Join us. Don't mind your contract. It will be grand".
Woy: (Two finger salute to Fulham).

Despite your attempts at trying to portray me as ignorant, let me tell you again, Liverpool had a deal with Hodgson more or less signed even before they asked Fulham for how much compensation would be needed.

This is no different to the Fulham and Jol situation. It's tough for Ajax, but there is no nice guys in football.

Peace.

Mezcita

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

Liverpool had a deal with Hodgson more or less signed

No they didn't. They couldn't get Roy out of his contract without Fulham's permission to terminate it. So basically, Liverpool could have offered him a lucrative contract to join them. But it would have all been meaningless if they didn't have Fulham's permission to talk to him in the first place. Without Fulham's permission to terminate the contract, Roy could not move.

Not about being nice guys or not. It's about a legal contract of employment.

Peace too.

fulhamfanincork

Mezcita wrote: »

No they didn't. They couldn't get Roy out of his contract without Fulham's permission to terminate it. So basically, Liverpool could have offered him a lucrative contract to join them. But it would have all been meaningless if they didn't have Fulham's permission to talk to him in the first place. Without Fulham's permission to terminate the contract, Roy could not move.

Not about being nice guys or not. It's about a legal contract of employment.

Peace too.

Fulham never ever gave Roy permission to talk to Liverpool, doesn't mean that he wasn't. Roy had to resign, I'm not sure Fulham did get compo for him.

Anyway it's all pointless now. Jol is headed to Fulham. Roy is at Liverpool.

Mezcita

This is fun.

"Anfield officials were granted permission to speak to Hodgson following his return from the World Cup finals in South Africa last week where he had been working for the BBC."


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/roy-hodgson-set-for-liverpool


Or:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/01/roy-hodgson-liverpool-impossible-turn-down

"I don't think there are many jobs that would have tempted me away from Fulham, to be perfectly honest. I had such a good relationship with the chairman and the chief executive, the players were magnificent to work with and everything was as good as it gets, but on the other hand when there was a chance that Liverpool wanted me, and they asked to speak to me, I asked the chairman [Mohamed Al Fayed] for permission.

"He wasn't too happy to give it but fortunately for me this job came about and I am really happy to be here. " - Hodgson

Compensation of £2.5m paid to Fulham apparently.

fulhamfanincork

Mezcita wrote: »

This is fun.

"Anfield officials were granted permission to speak to Hodgson following his return from the World Cup finals in South Africa last week where he had been working for the BBC."


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/roy-hodgson-set-for-liverpool


Or:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/01/roy-hodgson-liverpool-impossible-turn-down

"I don't think there are many jobs that would have tempted me away from Fulham, to be perfectly honest. I had such a good relationship with the chairman and the chief executive, the players were magnificent to work with and everything was as good as it gets, but on the other hand when there was a chance that Liverpool wanted me, and they asked to speak to me, I asked the chairman [Mohamed Al Fayed] for permission.

"He wasn't too happy to give it but fortunately for me this job came about and I am really happy to be here. " - Hodgson

Compensation of £2.5m paid to Fulham apparently.

I think I'll stick with what I was told. Thanks, though.

Mezcita

Can you explain to me then why Cesc Fabregas has not jointed Barca this Summer? I mean, he wants to play for them. They want to sign him. Boyhood club and all that. Can he not just catch a plane over to Barca and put a shirt on?

OH THAT'S RIGHT HE CAN'T BECAUSE HE IS UNDER CONTRACT.

Peace.

CSF

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

I think I'll stick with what I was told. Thanks, though.

Haha yeah, always makes sense to stick with what you were told over the facts.

mike65

Bad luck Fulham, Jol commits to Ajax. No details yet, but I think they offered him a bigger transfer budget and then told him he's under contract.

MrStuffins

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

I think I'll stick with what I was told. Thanks, though.

HAHAHA!

Hilarious!

mike65

Mark Hughes agrees to take the reigns. Thats a decent pitch for him, no great expectation. They know they reached their high water mark over the last two seasons.

SickBoy

Delighted for both parties. I hope Hughes does well there.