Stage 15 - Monday, July 19 2010, Pamiers - Bagnères-de-Luchon, 187 km

ednwireland

corkandproud wrote: »

What's the gap to Conta now

20s

DirkVoodoo

Jesus, please stay on the bike Andy.

I reckon he is winning a lot of fans with this performance! All guts!

corkandproud

Any idea how to refresh the iPhone browse?
It's painful changing the page every time

bbosco

My initial inclination was that Contador was right to take advantage, but Kelly's opinion has swayed me somewhat.

ednwireland

glanman wrote: »

why?? it was shleck attacking him, its not as if it was on a flat stage in the middle of peleton... shleck will make it back anyway

meh menchov and sanchez were going contador would have been daft to sit up

voeckler nearly ends up in a barn

DirkVoodoo

Good save Voeckler, rear wheel slid out on a tight corner! Good balance to keep it up.

damoz

ednwireland wrote: »

meh menchov and sanchez were going contador would have been daft to sit up

voeckler nearly ends up in a barn

contador led the attack tho - bad form IMO

on_the_nickel

corkandproud wrote: »

Any idea how to refresh the iPhone browse?
It's painful changing the page every time

In Safari? There's a circle ending in an arrow on the rhs of the address bar - just press that.

DirkVoodoo

damoz wrote: »

contador led the counterattack tho - bad form IMO

Just saying

damoz

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Just saying

correct. still bad form

Inquitus

Very bad form from Contador.

death1234567

nerraw1111 wrote: »

Hmmmmm, dubious ethics by Contador.

+1, Should have waited for Andy IMO. He's going to win the tour anyway, might aswell do it properly and respectfully

ednwireland

not for a mechanical for me anyway if he'd punctured should they all stop ?

great win for voeckler doing the french champions jersey proud there

i'm sure schleck will do a lot of complaining though

corkandproud

What's the gap now

IM0

if you are one of the worlds top riders and you drop a chain on a climb like that you deserve all thats coming to you really.

niceonetom

Disgraceful.

DrGroove

I think he had the chance to be sporting - but Alberto Contrador missed it :mad: and with that the little Pistelero took the yellow jersey - which really makes me hope that Andy kills him tomorrow and the next day in the mountains.

DirkVoodoo

Great ride Andy, chapeau! At least it happened before Tourmalet rather than on the TT (which let's face it would have happened), now we can have an interesting few days.

ednwireland

niceonetom wrote: »

Disgraceful.

wrong i have no problem when a group is at the front containing all the leaders (as in armstrong waiting for ullrich fro instance) but when theres ridersa in front and behind you cant sit and wait

stephen roche - its part of the race

Caroline_ie

Alberto = Cheeky bast*rd....

on_the_nickel

corkandproud wrote: »

What's the gap now

Bert in yellow by 8 seconds.

kmart6

Roche is def blaming Andy anyway!

IM0

thank you stephen!

schleck is indeed a muppet..

on_the_nickel

Tweets by a certain Texan might be interesting tonight.

kenmc

Would Schleck have stopped the attack if Bertie had dropped his own chain whilst responding? Sincerely doubt it. Bertie was right to continue - Schleck started it, lost a chain, tough tittie.

DirkVoodoo

Nobody stopped for me when I dropped a chain in that club race. Maybe I should wear my yellow jersey from now on.

corkandproud

Looking at the screen but no volume, it looks like they are blaming Andy for crosschaining, how close am I?

DirkVoodoo

corkandproud wrote: »

Looking at the screen but no volume, it looks like they are blaming Andy for crosschaining, how close am I?

Yes, pretty good going!

nerraw1111

Kelly seems to suggest that Contador wouldn't have attacked if he was feeling confident. Suggests that AC isn't as strong as he can be and therefore took an easy opportunity.

Of course Contador should've gone with any breaks after Schleck messed up but should he have led it?

corkandproud

Ha, ha, is that what a top end SRAM grouppo will do under pressure

Lumen

Sounds like an equipment problem. Andy should ditch that unreliable Specialized and get one of whatever Albert is riding.

Oh, wait...

kmart6

Seems a bit petty Roche giving out they shoulda waited for Nicolas if they waited for Andy!

ednwireland

this thread now needs a poll seems to be a split here

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corkandproud

Where did Roche finish

IM0

corkandproud wrote: »

Ha, ha, is that what a top end SRAM grouppo will do under pressure

tools blaming idiots.

DirkVoodoo

17th - 12' 34" down.

Sorry that's overall.

37th on the stage.

nerraw1111

Lots of boos and AC seemed almost embarrassed. Didn't exactly celebrate taking the lead of the World's great cycling race.

Esroh

Interesting crowd reation.

Liamo08

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

17th - 12' 34" down.

Sorry that's overall.

37th on the stage.

Lost a fair bit of time - 7' 52" down on the winner.

Didn't see the Schlek incident - was it much different to say Ulrich waiting for Armstrong back in 2003?

NickDrake

Thought it a bit of a disgrace that Roche's team mate did not drop back to help him get back up. Forget his name

Columbia

I'm not going to say Contador should have done this or should have done that, but he will know where he was yesterday, and he'll know why he is where he is now. I have been a fan of Contador and the Schlecks since they came on the scene, but I hope he gives us a reason to unequivocally accept him as this year's champion, because he hasn't done it so far.

davyjose

kenmc wrote: »

Would Schleck have stopped the attack if Bertie had dropped his own chain whilst responding? Sincerely doubt it. Bertie was right to continue - Schleck started it, lost a chain, tough tittie.

He quite clearly jumped past Schleck - he was a few bike lengths behind and wasn't really responding to schleck's attack.

I don't get it, either way he should have waited. Just because Schleck attacks, he's fair game? That makes no sense, tbh. None of the greats like Merckx, Indurain, The badger, would have jumped on a rider's misfortune like that. Never.

Moflojo

This is a tough one to call.

On the one hand I can understand the idea that a mechanical is in some way one's own fault and tough titty. If a mountain goat or stray dog had knocked Schleck off the bike then I would absolutely agree that Contador should have waited for him.

On the other hand, Contador has not proved that he is a better rider than Schleck, only that he is luckier. And by taking advantage of the misfortune the way he did could be seen as exploitative and, I guess, unsportsmanlike.

I'm leaning towards the latter approach.

furiousox

ednwireland wrote: »

this thread now needs a poll seems to be a split here

Agreed, can we have a poll?

Bad form by AC, of course he should have continued but he shouldn't have attacked (imo)

NickDrake

If you look at it again Contador attacks when he see Andy has stopped. Attacks hard then easies up slightly but not much. Knew well what he was at.

He did attack. Whether it was right or wrong is another issue. either way he went for it and got his yellow

IM0

Liamo08 wrote: »

Didn't see the Schlek incident - was it much different to say Ulrich waiting for Armstrong back in 2003?

No in that one someone waited, in this one no one did - totally different!

Lumen

furiousox wrote: »

Agreed, can we have a poll?

Ah, go on then.

Liamo08

me@ucd wrote: »

No in that one someone waited, in this one no one did - totally different!

Sorry, I mean was the incident similar, sounded like it from the commentary? I seem to remember Ulrich being praised for waiting at the time.

ednwireland

Lumen wrote: »

Ah, go on then.

editing my threads i dont know - mod abuse

only kidding