your best foreign prem 11 and best english prem 11

larchielads

since there's another 2 threads goin i thought i'd throw these ones out there aswell. for foreign players basically anyone who aint english some tend to think you cant include irish scot welsh in that cos there not continental europe, they aint english so they're foreign.

Foreign team.

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Shmeichel

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Petrescu

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Stam

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Vidic

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Evra

Ronaldo

---

Keane

---

Vieira

---

Giggs

---

Cantona

---

Henry

---

English Team

---

Seaman

---

G.Neville

---

Adams

---

Bruce

---

Cole

Beckham

---

Scholes

---

Gerrard

---

McManaman

---

Shearer

---

Sheringham

eagle eye

What about the Irish team.

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Given
O'Shea

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McGrath

---

Moran

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Irwin
Houghton----Keane

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Whelan

---

Duff

---

Keane

---

Doyle

larchielads

how about french team.....arsenal:D

larchielads

eagle eye wrote: »

What about the Irish team.

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Given
O'Shea

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McGrath

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Moran

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Irwin
Houghton----Keane

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Whelan

---

Duff

---

Keane

---

Doyle

no niall quinn?

Einhard

larchielads wrote: »

since there's another 2 threads goin i thought i'd throw these ones out there aswell. for foreign players basically anyone who aint english some tend to think you cant include irish scot welsh in that cos there not continental europe, they aint english so they're foreign.

Foreign team.

---

Shmeichel

---

Petrescu

---

Stam

---

Vidic

---

Evra

Ronaldo

---

Keane

---

Vieira

---

Giggs

---

Cantona

---

Henry

---

English Team

---

Seaman

---

G.Neville

---

Adams

---

Bruce

---

Cole

Beckham

---

Scholes

---

Gerrard

---

McManaman

---

Shearer

---

Sheringham

Do you support Utd by any chance?

Fromvert

eagle eye wrote: »

What about the Irish team.

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Given
O'Shea

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McGrath

---

Moran

---

Irwin
Houghton----Keane

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Whelan

---

Duff

---

Keane

---

Doyle

I'd switch Irwin with O'Shea and replace O'Shea with Staunton.

OPENROAD

Foreign team.

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Shmeichel

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Lauren

---

Stam

---

Gallas

---

Evra

Ljunberg

---

Petit

---

Vieira

---

Pires

---

Bergkamp

---

Henry

---

English Team

---

Seaman

---

Dixon

---

Campbell

---

Keown

---

Cole

Parlour

---

Scholes

---

Lampard

---

McManaman

---

Shearer

---

Wright

parker kent

I tried to pick teams that could actually play together in real life. Giggs as an AM could work in that team I think.

Foreign team:

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Schmeichel

Irwin---Carvalho---Vidic---Evra

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Keane

---

----Vieira

---

Giggs

Ronaldo

---

Henry

---

Drogba

English Team

---

Seaman

Dixon

---

Terry

---

Ferdinand

---

Cole

Beckham---Scholes---Lampard---Waddle

---

Gerrard

---

Shearer

parker kent

eagle eye wrote: »

What about the Irish team.

---

Given
O'Shea

---

McGrath

---

Moran

---

Irwin
Houghton----Keane

---

Whelan

---

Duff

---

Keane

---

Doyle

---

Given
Carr

---

McGrath

---

Dunne

---

Irwin
Houghton----Keane

---

Kinsella

---

Duff

---

Keane

---

Doyle

Deciding between O'Shea and Dunne was tricky. I would not have Moran as his best days were gone when the Premiership started. Staunton was a very close call too.

tommyhaas

Foreign Team

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Schmeichel

---

Petrescu

---

Desailly

---

Hyypia

---

Irwin

Ronaldo

---

Keane

---

Gullit

---

Barnes

---

Bergkamp

---

---

Henry

---

Zola/Cantona/DiCanio/Vieira just miss out

Edgar Davids would be in there, but wasent at his best while in the prem

Fizman

I'm going to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that anyone who has omitted Dennis Bergkamp from their side is on hard recreational drugs.

parker kent

tommyhaas wrote: »

Foreign Team

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Schmeichel

---

Petrescu

---

Desailly

---

Hyypia

---

Irwin

Ronaldo

---

Keane

---

Gullit

---

Barnes

---

Bergkamp

---

---

Henry

---

Zola/Cantona/DiCanio/Vieira just miss out

Edgar Davids would be in there, but wasent at his best while in the prem

Counting Barnes as Jamaican? He played enough for England so he has to count as English surely?

SlickRic

Foreign:

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Schmeichel

---

Petrescu

---

Hyypia

---

Vidic

---

Irwin

---

Keane

---

Vieira

---

Ronaldo

---

Bergkamp

---

Giggs

---

Henry

---

English:

---

Seaman

---

G Neville

---

Adams

---

Campbell

---

Cole

---

Ince

---

---

Scholes

---

Lampard

---

Gerrard

---

McManaman

---

Shearer

---

tommyhaas

parker kent wrote: »

Counting Barnes as Jamaican? He played enough for England so he has to count as English surely?

Its debatable alright, but given he was born in Jamaica, and lived there until he was about 16 I think its fair game. Could say the same about Ryan Giggs, he was only a kid when he moved to Manchester, and played underage for England

Kess73

Foreign:

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Schmeichel

---

Petrescu

---

Desailly

---

Hyypia

---

Irwin

---

Keane

---

Alonso

---

Ronaldo

---

Bergkamp

---

Overmars

---

Henry

---

English:

---

Flowers

---

G Neville

---

Adams

---

Campbell

---

Cole

---

Batty

---

---

Scholes

---

Ince

---

Gerrard

---

McManaman

---

Shearer

---

larchielads

Einhard wrote: »

Do you support Utd by any chance?

What gave it away?:D

Pepe LeFrits

parker kent wrote: »

I tried to pick teams that could actually play together in real life. Giggs as an AM could work in that team I think.

Foreign team:

---

Schmeichel

Irwin---Carvalho---Vidic---Evra

---

Keane

---

----Vieira

---

Giggs

Ronaldo

---

Henry

---

Drogba

Surely that's just better suited to a 4-4-2?

Mine, similar to SlickRics:

Schmeichel
Irwin Hyypia Vidic Evra
Ronaldo Vieira Keane Pires
Bergkamp Henry

Seaman
Dixon Adams Campbell Cole
Scholes Ince Lampard
Gerrard Shearer Rooney

homerjay2005

larchielads wrote: »

no niall quinn?

tis the lack of Terry Phelan that got me....

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Einhard wrote: »

Do you support Utd by any chance?

They're fairly well balanced teams.

Most XIs would have more United players in them, considering United were close to an unstoppable force in the 90s in England.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Foreigners:

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Schmeichel

---

Petrescu--Vidic---Stam---Evra
Ronaldo---Keane--Viera---Giggs---

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Bergkamp--Henry

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English:

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Seaman

---

Neville---Campbell--Adams--A.Cole
Beckham--Scholes--Lampard--McManamanananan

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Shearer----Wright

OPENROAD

tommyhaas wrote: »

Its debatable alright, but given he was born in Jamaica, and lived there until he was about 16 I think its fair game. Could say the same about Ryan Giggs, he was only a kid when he moved to Manchester, and played underage for England

Fair enough I'm putting Andy Townsend and McAteer in my England team for starters

PirateShampoo

Cant believe nobody has mentioned Klinsmann or Lineker yet.

OPENROAD

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Cant believe nobody has mentioned Klinsmann or Lineker yet.

Did Lineker play in the Premiership?

tommyhaas

OPENROAD wrote: »

Fair enough I'm putting Andy Townsend and McAteer in my England team for starters

tbh, I dont think its their nationalities that preventing people from naming them in their best XI

PirateShampoo

OPENROAD wrote: »

Did Lineker play in the Premiership?

Technically no he went to Japan the session before it started, but whats your problem with that?

OPENROAD

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Technically no he went to Japan the session before it started, but whats your problem with that?

Nothing at all, just really clarification, thread title is best Prem team, so Lineker did not play in the Prem so why would you include him, if we are including the old div 1 also, then I may need to revise my team.

yahoo_moe

Fizman wrote: »

I'm going to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that anyone who has omitted Dennis Bergkamp from their side is on hard recreational drugs.

I'd say the same for Sol Campbell. Spurs, Arsenal, Portsmouth - class throughout.

He'd probably be the first name on my 'English' team.

OPENROAD

yahoo_moe wrote: »

I'd say the same for Sol Campbell. Spurs, Arsenal, Portsmouth - class throughout.

He'd probably be the first name on my 'English' team.

I actually felt he never got the credit he deserved in the media, even in the English media.

gibson

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Cant believe nobody has mentioned Klinsmann or Lineker yet.

Even though I support Arsenal, David Ginola was pretty good on his day!

No Matt Le Tissier, Robbie Fowler, Zola, Rush and of course the lethal striker that was.....Jason Lee

parker kent

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Surely that's just better suited to a 4-4-2?

I think Drogba is best on his own up front and Ronaldo is better in a front 3. Henry more or less played wide left for Arsenal a lot of the time. It could switch to 4-4-2 if needs be, but 4-3-3 would probably work better with those players and could see a lot of movement up top between Giggs, Henry and Ronaldo.

parker kent

tommyhaas wrote: »

Its debatable alright, but given he was born in Jamaica, and lived there until he was about 16 I think its fair game. Could say the same about Ryan Giggs, he was only a kid when he moved to Manchester, and played underage for England

Giggs is not eligible to play for England. Sierra Leone and Wales are the only countries he could play international football for. He was a schoolboy in England as a teen so he played for the England schoolboy team. But that is a world away from actually playing for an English international team.

Whereas Barnes actually has 79 England caps.

RichTea

...............Schmeichel...............

.......Hyypia....Stam....Carvalho.........


...........Keane.....Vieira......................

Overmars.........................Giggs........

................Bergkamp.................

Henry...........................Zola......

3-4-3 is the way to be!




English team:


....................Seaman.......

Neville.....Adams....Campbell.....Dixon...

Beckham....Scholes....Ince....Lampard...

...........................Le Tissier......................

...............Shearer...........

PirateShampoo

gibson wrote: »

Even though I support Arsenal, David Ginola was pretty good on his day!

No Matt Le Tissier, Robbie Fowler, Zola, Rush and of course the lethal striker that was.....Jason Lee

If your gonna mention Le Tisser then you got to mention Tony Yeboah.

gibson

PirateShampoo wrote: »

If your gonna mention Le Tisser then you got to mention Tony Yeboah.

ah ye but Yeboah was more a one season wonder wasnt he? But my god did he score some amazing goals!!!

Pepe LeFrits

larchielads wrote: »

how about french team.....arsenal:D

No goalkeepers

Sagna Gallas Grimandi Clichy
Flamini Petit Vieira
Wiltord Henry Pires

Bench:
Silvestre
Traore
Diaby
Nasri

loveissucide

Foreign
Schemicel
Petrescu

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Desailly

---

Stam

---

Irwin
Ronaldo

---

Alonso

---

Keane

---

Pires
Henry---Bergkamp

English
Flowers
Carragher-Adams-Dixon
Beckham-Murphy-Ince-McManaman
Le Tissier
Shearer-Rooney

Pepe LeFrits

Barthez
Sagna Gallas Desailly Evra
Makelele Vieira
Pires Cantona Ginola
Henry

France beats England imo

tommyhaas

parker kent wrote: »

Giggs is not eligible to play for England. Sierra Leone and Wales are the only countries he could play international football for. He was a schoolboy in England as a teen so he played for the England schoolboy team. But that is a world away from actually playing for an English international team.

Whereas Barnes actually has 79 England caps.

So by the same logic, would you class Emmanuel Olisadebe as Polish?

Im sure Ryan Giggs would have been eligable to play for England, given he lived in Manchester since he was 6. If Cudicini & Almnuia are now eligable for England, I dont see how Giggs wouldnt have been. I dont know that for a fact now, Im just assuming.

Wrt to Barnes, yea he played for England but if your born in Jamacia, and live there till your 15/16, I think its fair enough that your regarded as Jamacian

parker kent

tommyhaas wrote: »

So by the same logic, would you class Emmanuel Olisadebe as Polish?

Im sure Ryan Giggs would have been eligable to play for England, given he lived in Manchester since he was 6. If Cudicini & Almnuia are now eligable for England, I dont see how Giggs wouldnt have been. I dont know that for a fact now, Im just assuming.

Wrt to Barnes, yea he played for England but if your born in Jamacia, and live there till your 15/16, I think its fair enough that your regarded as Jamacian

That is a different situation altogether. Poland are much less stringent on passports and eligibility than England were in the early 90s. They have only recently changed the citizenship issue in England so Giggs would have had to have remained uncapped into his 30s to take advantage of the situation Cudicini could now use.

Contrary to popular belief, Giggsy never had the option of playing for England. He was born in Cardiff to Welsh parents, and only moved to the Manchester area when he was seven.

He did captain England schoolboys when he played at that level for Manchester United but, as Mark Wylie of the Manchester United museum explains: "That was due to residence. Plenty of Scots have played for England schools. It just depends on where you go to school."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2004/oct/06/theknowledge.sport

tommyhaas

parker kent wrote: »

That is a different situation altogether. Poland are much less stringent on passports and eligibility than England were in the early 90s. They have only recently changed the citizenship issue in England so Giggs would have had to have remained uncapped into his 30s to take advantage of the situation Cudicini could now use.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2004/oct/06/theknowledge.sport

Your obviously right so about Giggs's eligability for England then.

I dont know how it works in the UK wrt citizenship. I mean Giggs is obviously a British citizen, but what is the requirement to be an English citizen? Given that he lived in Manchester since he was 7, I would have thought he would have been entitled to 'English Citizenship'

Im not arguing the point with you, he obviously wasent eligable, just think its strange that he wasent

Wrt Olisadebe/Barnes, I do think its the same thing. They were both born and raised in one country, yet represented another. Maybe agree to disagree on this point? Were kinda getting into anorak territory here

parker kent

tommyhaas wrote: »

Your obviously right so about Giggs's eligability for England then.

I dont know how it works in the UK wrt citizenship. I mean Giggs is obviously a British citizen, but what is the requirement to be an English citizen? Given that he lived in Manchester since he was 7, I would have thought he would have been entitled to 'English Citizenship'

Im not arguing the point with you, he obviously wasent eligable, just think its strange that he wasent

Wrt Olisadebe/Barnes, I do think its the same thing. They were both born and raised in one country, yet represented another. Maybe agree to disagree on this point? Were kinda getting into anorak territory here

Maybe instead of I'll get my coat, I'll say I'll get my anorak

If football had any sense Barnes would play for Jamaica and the likes of Deco and Eduardo for Brazil. So you really should be right.

Dues Bellator

OPENROAD wrote: »

Foreign team.

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Shmeichel

---

Lauren

---

Stam

---

Gallas

---

Evra

Ljunberg

---

Petit

---

Vieira

---

Pires

---

Bergkamp

---

Henry

---

English Team

---

Seaman

---

Dixon

---

Campbell

---

Keown

---

Cole

Parlour

---

Scholes

---

Lampard

---

McManaman

---

Shearer

---

Wright

french arsenal fan by any chance lol