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Gun Club "ban" use of semi-autos & pump actions at club clay shoot

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    #62
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    shedd7 wrote: »
    Sorry mate,safety is not conditional,particularly by people of various ability with firearms.

    No matter what someones ability or experience with a firearm if they cannot handle and use it safely they shouldn't have it at all.

    As stated here already if the Safety Officer believes there are people in the club who are not proficient in the use of their firearms he should endeavour to remedy the situation with proper instruction and not simply propose a ban on them using their firearms at a club shoot. Maybe a proposal to hold a proficiency/refresher course for all members would be a more sensible proposal from a Safety Officer?
    shedd7 wrote: »
    I'm surprised that someone who seems to know about the technical side of shooting is finding it so difficult to understand the basic,simple concept of safety.

    It's because I do understand the technical side of shooting and I have the knowledge, & the ability to impart it to others, that I find the actions of this Safety Officer intolerable.


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    #63
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Sparks wrote: »
    You've actually been in contact with him then?

    I haven't, but others have and he is point blank refusing to compromise or agree to discuss the matter :rolleyes:


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    #64
    Sparks
    Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    bunny shooter wrote: »
    I haven't but others have and he is point blank refusing to compromise or discuss the matter :rolleyes:
    Well, that puts another spin on things.


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    #65
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Sparks wrote: »
    Well, that puts another spin on things.

    There's always a spin :D


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    #66
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,405 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Sorry mate,safety is not conditional,particularly by people of various ability with firearms. It is a must, not a must so long as I agree with how it is applied. I'm surprised that someone who seems to know about the technical side of shooting is finding it so difficult to understand the basic,simple concept of safety.

    I am curious, it must be said, as to what it is about semi-auto shotguns that you may think may be so uniquely and inherently unsafe that they pose a particular hazard to safety which is not posed by manually readied shotguns, and which may support such a prohibition.

    NTM


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    #67
    deeksofdoom
    Registered Users Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    bunny shooter wrote: »
    There's always a spin :D

    Cancel your shoot, have your AGM next year and don't propose him for any jobs on the committee.

    Otherwise have the shoot bring your pumps and semi's he can decide who shoots or doesn't, ye can have yer AGM next year and see how well he does at voting time.


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    #68
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users Posts: 15,025 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Why wait that long?Call an EGM and let this offical put his case forward,whatever it is,and put up a counter proposal or vote of confidence in this person as a saftey officer.

    I get the feeling he will be in the "idonlikedelookodat"stable of arguement.
    Possibly having the smart" busisness idea" of getting pumps and semis banned and making a sales by flogging your lads a rake of non moving O/U and SXS?? Or somone has in officaldom somwhere put the frightners on him somhow regarding these type of guns,and that they a re best got rid of?Not to mind that he wont discuss this shows that somthing is well fishy.

    Better still,as this is a flapper ,when and where is it on?All of us pump and semi users turn up to go shooting.He will look a right CNUT turning away fee paying shooters from far and near and that will go down well with your comittee.;)

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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    #69
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    EGM & counter proposals sorted. Will advise of outcome :cool:


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    #70
    marlin vs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    Good man Bunny,dig in you'r heels.


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    #71
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    marlin vs wrote: »
    Good man Bunny,dig in you'r heels.

    TBH my heels aren't the only ones being dug in :cool:

    Thanks to all, apart from one possible troll, for posts here. Nice to see fellow shooters supporting each other instead of shafting each other :cool:


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    #72
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    EGM was held last night.

    My counter proposal was carried - 13 for, 1 against and 2 abstentions

    Common sense has prevailed :cool: :)

    My counter proposal was basically that guns will be checked to ensure they're empty & unloaded after firing on each stand by the person in charge of each stand and then gun is to be put into a slip/box until ready to shoot on next stand.

    Oh, and I'm the "new" safety officer :eek:


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    #73
    Sparks
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    Oh, and I'm the "new" safety officer :eek:
    The next thread on problems at the gun club should be interesting so ;)
    You know Bunny, you're now the one responsible for making it all run perfectly and addressing every complaint from anyone... :D
    Welcome to the sanity ;)


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    #74
    Vegeta
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    Well done bunny, good result

    I hope no ones nose was out of joint after the meeting though


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    #75
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Sparks wrote: »
    The next thread on problems at the gun club should be interesting so ;)

    :D
    Sparks wrote: »
    You know Bunny, you're now the one responsible for making it all run perfectly and addressing every complaint from anyone... :D

    I do. I like a challenge :D
    Sparks wrote: »
    Welcome to the sanity ;)

    Been here before ;)


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    #76
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Vegeta wrote: »
    Well done bunny, good result

    Cheers. TBH it was an unnecessary distraction :o
    Vegeta wrote: »
    I hope no ones nose was out of joint after the meeting though

    Well there is one, which is unfortunate BUT he reaped what he sowed :o


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    #77
    deerhunter1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    bunny shooter wrote: »
    EGM was held last night.

    My counter proposal was carried - 13 for, 1 against and 2 abstentions

    Common sense has prevailed :cool: :)

    My counter proposal was basically that guns will be checked to ensure they're empty & unloaded after firing on each stand by the person in charge of each stand and then gun is to be put into a slip/box until ready to shoot on next stand.

    Oh, and I'm the "new" safety officer :eek:
    Good on ya:)


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    #78
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users Posts: 15,025 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Good to hear basic cop on still exists.:).Maybe get a bunch of chamber unloaded flags for the pump and semi guys too?

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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    #79
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    ...........Maybe get a bunch of chamber unloaded flags for the pump and semi guys too?

    Excellent suggestion any links?


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    #80
    Sparks
    Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    bunny shooter wrote: »
    Excellent suggestion any links?
    Starting already, getting everyone else to do the work, sheesh... :D
    Here :
    http://www.claypigeoninstructor.co.uk/shopsafetyflags.htm
    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=535054


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    #81
    marlin vs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    Good result, well done.Safety Flag


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    #82
    CJhaughey
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    No need to spend that kind of dosh for flags. PM me for a better and very cheap way.


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    #83
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Sparks wrote: »
    Starting already, getting everyone else to do the work, sheesh... :D

    I was born to delegate :D


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    #84
    homerhop
    Registered Users Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭homerhop


    bunny shooter wrote: »
    I was born to delegate :D

    Just remember never ask someone to do something you are not prepared to do yourself ;)


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    #85
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    homerhop wrote: »
    Just remember never ask someone to do something you are not prepared to do yourself ;)

    Or haven't done yourself :D;)


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    #86
    marlin vs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    bunny shooter for the laugh, you should tell all the lad's with the semi-autos, and village pump's to boycot the shoot and go have a ****.:D
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    #87
    Manic Moran
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    So before the vote, did the guy make any attempt to justify his position? I am still most curious as to what his supposed logic was.

    NTM


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    #88
    marlin vs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    So before the vote, did the guy make any attempt to justify his position? I am still most curious as to what his supposed logic was.

    NTM

    +1


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    #89
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    So before the vote, did the guy make any attempt to justify his position? I am still most curious as to what his supposed logic was.

    NTM

    TBH at the EGM all he was saying was that the whole concept of the EGM was "unconstitutional" and that semis & pumps "are inheritently more dangerous than other guns" and tbh he made a fool of himself :rolleyes:


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    #90
    johngalway
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    To satisfy my own curiousity, does this particular dealer/ex-safety officer still sell pump and semis which he regards as more dangerous than other shotguns? Or did anyone bring that up at the EGM?


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    #91
    bunny shooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    johngalway wrote: »
    To satisfy my own curiousity, does this particular dealer/ex-safety officer still sell pump and semis which he regards as more dangerous than other shotguns?

    He has and does. He sold a semi to a friend of mine not too long ago :eek:
    johngalway wrote: »
    Or did anyone bring that up at the EGM?

    It was brought up, not by me, and his answer was "I advise people before they buy them that they shouldn't" :confused:


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