Landsdowne/Aviva Question

allanb49

Ok i know the FAI are hungry b*stards,

But with the new stadium and not having to pay the GAA do you think the prices of matches will come down for Irish games.

€50 is a lot for a match and the reason i've always heard and been given is o its cause it costs 1 million to rent Croke Park and they don't get any money from the beer and all that.

Is this all true or will the FAI just continue to fleece people as they won't complain about the price

Seaneh

they, with the IRFU, just dumped a couple hundred million into a new stadium.

PCros

I'm sure it will still be around €50 a ticket. They could just say its because they have to pay for the new stadium. Like a toll.

allanb49

I figured that as much

Gavin "shels"

allanb49 wrote: »

will the FAI just continue to fleece people as they won't complain about the price

Supply and demand my good man.

homerjay2005

the majority of the tickets for croker were 70 euro, 55 for friendlies. i assume the 50euro ones were for behind the goals in the hill and canal end.

ive got access to a block booking for landsdowne and it looks like they will be less than that, posisbly 60quid a game and 45 for friendlies for the expensive tickets.

i find it hard to believe that people cristise the fai for prices, when rugby fans get charged on average 90euro per game and probably wont be that much cheaper in the new stadium.

now they are robbing *****

Fr Tod Umptious

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the majority of the tickets for croker were 70 euro, 55 for friendlies. i assume the 50euro ones were for behind the goals in the hill and canal end.

ive got access to a block booking for landsdowne and it looks like they will be less than that, posisbly 60quid a game and 45 for friendlies for the expensive tickets.

i find it hard to believe that people cristise the fai for prices, when rugby fans get charged on average 90euro per game and probably wont be that much cheaper in the new stadium.

now they are robbing *****

Upper tier in Croke Park was e50, lower was e70

mikemac

You could pay 90-120 euro to watch a rugby game in Croke Park, football was value in comparison.


Ok, it's still expensive but supply and demand. Prices may come down but not by much.
The FAI and IRFU have spent hundreds of millions so there are loans to service.

fullstop

€60 for tickets in East and West stands and around €40 I think for behind the goals.

Boskowski

Since this is Ireland the answer can only be "as much as they think they will possibly get away with."

Zebra3

allanb49 wrote: »

€50 is a lot for a match and the reason i've always heard and been given is o its cause it costs 1 million to rent Croke Park and they don't get any money from the beer and all that.

Is this all true or will the FAI just continue to fleece people as they won't complain about the price

€50 is not a lot to watch international football.

If you think it is, don't pay it.

ctrl-alt-delete

Boskowski wrote: »

Since this is Ireland the answer can only be "as much as they think they will possibly get away with."

+ Vat

redout

I can confirm that the ticket prices for Lansdowne will be as follows:

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Friendly

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Competitive

Lower tiers east and west stands

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€55

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€70

Upper tiers east, west and south

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€40

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€50
stands & Lower tier north & south stands

ollaetta

Those are the prices alright. Just received a bill for West Upper Stand seats covering the Argentina friendly and the Andorra EC game. Crazy to be paying more to see Andorra than Argentina but there you go.

stovelid

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i assume the 50euro ones were for behind the goals in the hill and canal end.

Yup. I changed my subscription to the Davin halfway through the last campaign. Actually far better seats than were we were paying more for in the Cusack.

OP: as long as people pay, they'll surely charge it, seeing as they need the readies. 50 quid is probably about right for an international.

redout

stovelid wrote: »

As long as people pay, they'll surely charge it, seeing as they need the readies.

Not really - its not as if they sellout all the home games be it friendly or competitive yet they charge the prices.

Boskowski

I suppose there isn't a lot of other income for the FAI or am I wrong. Is there any reductions at all? Like for kids, unemployed, pensioners or the like?

stovelid

redout wrote: »

Not really - its not as if they sellout all the home games be it friendly or competitive yet they charge the prices.

If people really voted with their feet and attendances completely plummeted, I've no doubt you'd see movement on prices.

Selling, say 50k seats in Croker is still good business even if far from a sell-out.

redout

The thing is that the majority of tickets are for people lucky/foolish enough to be on the FAI block booking list. FAI told me that there was 35,000 on the list (25,000 from old lansdowne) but some of them were added because of the extra capacity at Croker so I am not sure that all the newcomers will get to remain on the list although the new lansdowne has about 17,000 extra seats. I think UEFA demand 5% for away support so that brings capacity down to 47,500 then just say minus 35,000 block bookers you are down to about 12,500. I read that the club level/hospitality takes up 12,000 seats (regular ticket capacity is 38,000) around the middle middle tier of the stadium (although I am sure the FAI has not sold all them tickets). Basically all this means there aint a huge amount of regular tickets up for sale. I looks like it will depend on whether they allow the newbie croke park block bookers to remain or not.

redout

stovelid wrote: »

If people really voted with their feet and attendances completely plummeted, I've no doubt you'd see movement on prices.

Selling, say 50k seats in Croker is still good business even if far from a sell-out.

I think there was a couple with only 30,000+ also.

The two recent friendlies in the RDS didnt sellout yet capacity was only 18,000 and neither did the two friendlies down in Limerick.

The FAI heavily rely on their block bookers at the end of the day and threaten them with expulsion from the list if they refuse to take their allocation for every game be it friendly or competitive.

Third_Echelon

redout wrote: »

The thing is that the majority of tickets are for people lucky/foolish enough to be on the FAI block booking list. FAI told me that there was 35,000 on the list (25,000 from old lansdowne) but some of them were added because of the extra capacity at Croker so I am not sure that all the newcomers will get to remain on the list although the new lansdowne has about 17,000 extra seats. I think UEFA demand 5% for away support so that brings capacity down to 47,500 then just say minus 35,000 block bookers you are down to about 12,500. I read that the club level/hospitality takes up 12,000 seats (regular ticket capacity is 38,000) around the middle middle tier of the stadium (although I am sure the FAI has not sold all them tickets). Basically all this means there aint a huge amount of regular tickets up for sale. I looks like it will depend on whether they allow the newbie croke park block bookers to remain or not.

From the letter that was sent out to me (I was a block booker for croke park that was on the waiting list for old lansdowne), it seems that only a few (less than 100 people) that were on the waiting lists for block bookers in the old lansdowne, were offered tickets for the new landsdowne.

In the old lansdowne you had 2 tickets for example. You could get up to 6 or something in Croke park. That allocation isn't being reduced (from what i've heard), so you have the same amout of block bookers now (plus a few more from croke park) with a lot of tickets each, rather than going back to the old allocation of 2 tickets and allowing more 'new' block bookers into the new lansdowne.

If anyone knows different, please let me know, but this is what i've heard.

redout

Third_Echelon wrote: »

From the letter that was sent out to me (I was a block booker for croke park that was on the waiting list for old lansdowne), it seems that only a few (less than 100 people) that were on the waiting lists for block bookers in the old lansdowne, were offered tickets for the new landsdowne.

In the old lansdowne you had 2 tickets for example. You could get up to 6 or something in Croke park. That allocation isn't being reduced (from what i've heard), so you have the same amout of block bookers now (plus a few more from croke park) with a lot of tickets each, rather than going back to the old allocation of 2 tickets and allowing more 'new' block bookers into the new lansdowne.

If anyone knows different, please let me know, but this is what i've heard.

That is a crazy system to be honest. I suppose when you think about it the capacity is really only increasing by 5,000 for regular ticket buyers as 12,000 are reserved for club/hospitality tier which is far too many in my opinion. What bright spark in the FAI honestly believed they would shift 12,000 of these type of tickets :rolleyes:. That said I cannot see them allowing regular punters access to the non-sold club/hospitality level seats unless they cough up exorbitant fee's otherwise the prawn sambo munchers would likely kick up a fuss. If what you said about that allocation not being reduced is correct then yeah I suppose not that many Croke Park block bookers would have been accommodated.

Regular seats
33,000 Old Lansdowne
38,000 New Lansdowne