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List of Transposers/Relays upgraded to DTT?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Scull? Mullaghanish? ha ha

    I worked once that the ONLY way to give decent SW coverage was a couple of Offshore platforms with modest masts.

    You'd need a very large number of sites for UHF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Hi, can anybody tell me if Monasootagh Relay, Wexford will serve DTT in the Future.
    Was previsouly recieving DTT on 39 from Mount Lenister, however since it changed to 45 (No picture).
    I have re-alligned my aerial back to Monasootagh for 4.3 reception on RTE1, Network 2 and a poor TnaG.

    Thankyou, Friendo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    If it's not in this thread http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=68212910&postcount=42
    or here we don't know yet. Check back. Subscribe to the threads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    No sign of Monasootagh will Subscribe to the threads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭lawhec


    Interesting, the proposed Navan site plans to co-channel with the same polarity on frequencies used for the planned PSB multiplexes from Brougher Mountain, with restrictions only planned towards the SW! Another potential c**k blocker to potential future Freeview reception south of the border, some parts of Cavan could be vulnerable I reckon depending on final power output.

    Black Briar, the gain mentioned in those RTÉ documents will be (I assume) the maximum gain delivered by the transmitting aerial in certain direction(s) with respect to the power of the transmissions it is fed, which will be less than the actual transmitter power as some of that power will be lost in the feeder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    lawhec wrote: »
    Interesting, the proposed Navan site plans to co-channel with the same polarity on frequencies used for the planned PSB multiplexes from Brougher Mountain, with restrictions only planned towards the SW! Another potential c**k blocker to potential future Freeview reception south of the border, some parts of Cavan could be vulnerable I reckon depending on final power output.

    Black Briar, the gain mentioned in those RTÉ documents will be (I assume) the maximum gain delivered by the transmitting aerial in certain direction(s) with respect to the power of the transmissions it is fed, which will be less than the actual transmitter power as some of that power will be lost in the feeder.

    Re Navan: With 130W estimated ERP back from the DTT license days? I doubt it. I don't think you get into Brougher DTT territory until around Kells or towards Athboy! Divis reception in poor ol' Drogheda on the other hand... Wexford won't know the meaning of the word CCI when our turn comes around:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭lawhec


    Re Navan: With 130W estimated ERP back from the DTT license days? I doubt it. I don't think you get into Brougher DTT territory until around Kells or towards Athboy! Divis reception in poor ol' Drogheda on the other hand... Wexford won't know the meaning of the word CCI when our turn comes around:(
    I'm pretty sure on my travels around Meath though that a few aerials in the town itself are pointed towards Brougher. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    And you're positive they weren't Divis aerials? The 7dB extra power makes a big difference compared to the extra 5 or so miles that Divis is (and directivity may make it worse), compared to Brougher. The hills around Grangegeeth in Co. Meath may stop parts of Navan getting good Divis, but maybe not the western side of Navan.

    Honestly it's been a while since I've been in Navan itself so I can't remember the finer detains of aerial positioning in the town:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭roverdublin


    The Cush wrote: »
    Is DTT from Mullaghanish available in the area? ......

    No joy, I have tried everything.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    In theory you should be covered by Mullagh or Clonakilty or Castletownbere.

    The BEST map of proposed coverage plots is this colour coded one ( 25MB !!!)

    http://www.bci.ie/DTT/easy_tv/map_hidef_bestserver_q1_2013.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    But, the current roll out may not match that, also it's likely to be a Tad optimistic.

    Thanks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    watty wrote: »
    But, the current roll out may not match that, also it's likely to be a Tad optimistic.

    They had better start praying that the Ka Sat satellite makes it up In November so and they should pray for Hylas the week before too :)

    If neither makes it then there will be no plan for Schull and no backup plan for Schull and no backup plan to the backup plan either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    They had better start praying that the Ka Sat satellite makes it up In November so and they should pray for Hylas the week before too :)

    If neither makes it then there will be no plan for Schull and no backup plan for Schull and no backup plan to the backup plan either.

    Hylas doesn't have a dedicated Ireland spot beam. So that won't be used.

    ASO doesn't happen for at least 2 years so if Ka-Sat fails they have that time to develop a backup plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭marclt


    Let's not stray off into the realms of satellite delivery chaps!

    Looking at the last map posted, there was an assumption on here that Forth Mt. in Wexford would be used as the local fill in site - there is a sparsely populated area to the south of the hill that will have no coverage. If the map is accurate.

    Puzzled about the location for the Wexford Town mast. It seems to be located in town somewhere... but there is limited coverage to the south of the town. I cannot see the need for a Wexford town in-fill, partcularly when there is good reception here (from outdoor aerials) across town.

    Perhaps they will use Forth Mountain after all - and maybe that is now part of the revised plan, but I cant recall if that has been confirmed or not?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    The Cush wrote: »
    Hylas doesn't have a dedicated Ireland spot beam. So that won't be used.

    Plan is dedicated UK and Ireland spot.
    If Ka-Sat fails they have that time to develop a backup plan.

    That would be Hylas or the continuation of DTT Transmitter Rollouts, they say they cannot afford the latter. A 'new' ka sat could not launch before early 2013 in my opinion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    The Cush wrote: »
    Hylas doesn't have a dedicated Ireland spot beam. So that won't be used.

    ASO doesn't happen for at least 2 years so if Ka-Sat fails they have that time to develop a backup plan.

    Hylas doesn't have spot beam or capacity. It's tiny in comparison. Also dual feed impossible. It's for 33.5W! http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=17992.0

    There would be nearly two years, so yes very late 2012 or early 2013 at best for a replacement. I think Viasat could get a replacement built in that time frame. But they might even decide to deploy 2011's Viasat 1 (an almost identical satellite for USA) in Europe to replace Kasat as they already have two satellites doing this service in USA and then put replacement in USA slot in 2012/2013.

    So a replacement is technically possible in mid to late 2011, by depriving USA of additional Two way Internet. In terms of the dynamics of US and EU two way satellite vs time scale of fibre and other satellite competition the use of Viasat for Europe rather than US as replacement is likely. The TV is of course of no concern as the main use of ka-Sat and ViaSat1 is Tooway DOCSIS VSAT (internet)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭marclt


    Please set up a new thread on this if you wish to discuss how transposers will be fed by satellite...

    Satellite launches *should* be discussed in the satellite thread...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    marclt wrote: »
    Let's not stray off into the realms of satellite delivery chaps!


    Perhaps they will use Forth Mountain after all - and maybe that is now part of the revised plan, but I cant recall if that has been confirmed or not?

    Sorry!

    Basically we have a lot of info on various previous plans and almost none on current. Only just more than 1/2 the 51 sites are 100% confirmed.

    RTE at the moment seem more secretive than Kremlin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    is cairn hill on schedule for upgrade by end of september(thursday)???


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭roverdublin


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    In theory you should be covered by Mullagh or Clonakilty or Castletownbere.

    The BEST map of proposed coverage plots is this colour coded one ( 25MB !!!)

    http://www.bci.ie/DTT/easy_tv/map_hidef_bestserver_q1_2013.jpg

    Quite WHITE around Schull and Ballydehob :(.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    is cairn hill on schedule for upgrade by end of september(thursday)???

    Sure it's been running ages.
    6 Cairn Hill Longford 47 41 44 51 H B Yes Yes 53.8069, -7.7161


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    watty wrote: »
    Sure it's been running ages.
    6 Cairn Hill Longford 47 41 44 51 H B Yes Yes 53.8069, -7.7161

    thanks Watty... I should have clarified it was to increase power at the end of september from 80kw to 160kw?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Really?
    Before ASO?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    watty wrote: »
    Really?
    Before ASO?

    Mmm'Yahh! You told us so on page 1 :cool:

    http://www.techtir.ie/sites/default/files/appendix7.3_coverageplotsmapsA3.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    But those are the boxer rollout plans?
    * Earlier plan for 53 sites (11main, 42 infill) with coverage plots (pdf download).

    Appendix

    * List of Irish Analogue Transmitters and frequencies (pdf download)
    * Discussion on Boards.ie ICDG forums
    * Earlier plan for 53 sites (11main, 42 infill) with coverage plots (pdf download).
    * BAI Boxer DTT Technical Proposal (53 sites) PDF
    * RTE Tender for DTT Aerials (Section 1 PDF)
    * RTE Tender for DTT Aerials (Section 2 PDF)
    * RTE Tender for DTT Aerials (Section 3 PDF)
    * Specificationfor Saorview
    * See also UHF Aerials
    * External Aerials Site


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭lawhec


    And you're positive they weren't Divis aerials? The 7dB extra power makes a big difference compared to the extra 5 or so miles that Divis is (and directivity may make it worse), compared to Brougher. The hills around Grangegeeth in Co. Meath may stop parts of Navan getting good Divis, but maybe not the western side of Navan.

    Honestly it's been a while since I've been in Navan itself so I can't remember the finer detains of aerial positioning in the town:D
    Same here! But in the times I've travelled through the town I recall seeing "northern" aerials pointing two different directions, either north-west (Brougher) or north-east (Divis), fairly easy to tell using Clermont Carn aerials as a reference. Brougher is about 10 miles closer as well and local terrain seems to favour reception better. On a car radio, FM radio from Brougher came in very well. I also remember previous posts on this board discussing that Brougher was a safer bet than Divis in Navan and some other parts of Meath, can't recall them now unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    lawhec wrote: »
    Same here! But in the times I've travelled through the town I recall seeing "northern" aerials pointing two different directions, either north-west (Brougher) or north-east (Divis), fairly easy to tell using Clermont Carn aerials as a reference. Brougher is about 10 miles closer as well and local terrain seems to favour reception better. On a car radio, FM radio from Brougher came in very well. I also remember previous posts on this board discussing that Brougher was a safer bet than Divis in Navan and some other parts of Meath, can't recall them now unfortunately.

    That's a variety of good reasons to prove your point:D Particularly the Clermont Carn aerial one. But are there many Group A aerials up, for Brougher or otherwise? In any case, I'm probably going to look over my own part of the world for problems before I speak up for the poor citizens of Navan!

    You'd have to wonder why they assigned Divis frequencies in Drogheda and Brougher frequencies in Navan... An amazing coincidence there on ComReg's part methinks:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Spectrum planning doesn't presume people sticking up big aerials to deliberately get out of area reception. Maybe it should. But it's not how it's ever done. Presley/Mt Leinster is a more stupid example as these are both BIG masts on high ground with mostly water between.

    Carn Hill Analogue uses same channels as Kirk O'Shots Scotland. Not a problem in Scotland or even on North Antrim coast.

    But Divis Analogue Rebroadcast uses Kirk O'Shots if the local feed fails. I was working in BBC the first time this happened after Carn Hill started. RTE was perfectly rebroadcast on Divis :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    It's not hard to get Divis reception in much of Drogheda. Most houses would have an aerial for Divis or Kilkeel and Kilkeel has the advantage of being cheaper but somewhat weaker in signal. In any case, Brougher frequencies would work no problems in Drogheda and cause interference to no-one. Navan wouldn't cause so many problems with Divis but it depends on how far the Navan signal would propagate.

    Anyway I'm going off topic so I'll leave that for the moment!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭lawhec


    watty wrote: »
    Spectrum planning doesn't presume people sticking up big aerials to deliberately get out of area reception. Maybe it should. But it's not how it's ever done. Presley/Mt Leinster is a more stupid example as these are both BIG masts on high ground with mostly water between.

    Carn Hill Analogue uses same channels as Kirk O'Shots Scotland. Not a problem in Scotland or even on North Antrim coast.

    But Divis Analogue Rebroadcast uses Kirk O'Shots if the local feed fails. I was working in BBC the first time this happened after Carn Hill started. RTE was perfectly rebroadcast on Divis :)
    Kirk O'Shotts hasn't broadcast any TV since the BBC 405 line service closed down. Maybe you're thinking of Black Hill, Watty?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    What ever place it was in Scotland! :) It was a while ago.
    Could have been Darvel or Black Hill?
    I don't think Caldbeck?

    I'm sure people "called it" Kirk O'Shotts, but that might have been habit. Some ot the guys in CTA looked like they had been there during Reith's Rule.

    According to link, the last test was 12 January 2009 on BBC1 3am-4am & BBC2 4.30am to 5.30am. It's not possible on DTT.

    "Divis via Cambret Hill which is the RBL point that takes a Scottish feed from Sandale"?
    Sandale AKA Caldbeck

    In my BBC TX handbook, there is ballpoint pen X beside Cambret Hill, 16kW ERP, 44, 51, 41 and 47 H
    But Cairn Hill Longford (Today) is listed as 40 43 46 50 (800kW)
    Black Hill in 1989 book was 40 46 43 50 H (500kW).
    Darvel was 33, 26, 23, 29

    So Indeed Black Hill must have been RBS/RBL source in those days as it was exactly the channels of Cairn Hill Longford.

    You learn something every day. Kirk O'Shotts was I think 1000ft mast (300m). I wonder why not used for UHF?

    Somewhat inaccurate. The map is NOT the RBS/RBL map.
    http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051527&PGSTART=0

    Because bitrates and content on Freesat don't much match Freeview, The UK doesn't use satellite backup for Freeview. In that respect the Saorsat plan for DTT site feed backup is something the UK doesn't have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭lawhec


    RBL at Divis from Black Hill sounds feasible enough considering the location. Where I live before DTT started, tropo from Black Hill and Darvel often came through during periods in the Summer, along with FM from both sites (Black Hill often coming in at slight lifts). DTT cut out much of Darvel (co-channel) and Black Hill needed a push, first sign is co-channel with Black Mountain on Channel 5 (E37). Both Darvel and Black Hill are due to DSO next summer so that's a back-up link gone then.

    There was a BBC analogue RBL test in July this year, but it covered (most of) England only. Possibly with the "Borders" region being the first to DSO, getting an analogue RBL link from NE England to Central Scotland was not sufficient.

    In pre-DSO (at least) areas in the UK, the SDN multiplex is distributed by satellite, with three regional variations, Scotland, Wales & England/NI with the appropriate streams stripped out. Years ago in the public library in Omagh, there was an application document by the group that lost to BDB (later OnDigital and ITV Digital) which cited the feasibility of RBR DTT multiplexes at some of the "relay" sites that had been allocated multiplexes back in the 90's. Some were thought to be possible, but the rest were to be line fed.

    I'm pretty sure that in parts of the UK where DSO has taken place, most relay stations are being RBR fed (particularly the smaller ones), if only because of the cost of line feeding some 1100 sites would be horrendous. It must somehow be possible because some self-help DTT relays do exist in areas that have been DSO'd (example).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Fibre is cheap now.

    I'm sure it's mostly fibre. Apparently major sites have two fibre routes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    I posted this in september
    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    The list of sites due in 2010 was given to Liz McManus in the Dáil in May 2010 and posted here by the Cush some time back.

    I frankly cannot see any more being done in 2010. Ryan said all of these would be done by 31 Oct but Knockmoyle went live in November and Collins in mid December.

    Can we check whether Ryan was lying to Liz McManus back in May.

    Black = Live
    Blue = Suspect Live
    Red = Not Live

    1 MullaghanishCo. Cork
    2 TruskmoreCo. Sligo
    3 Clermont CarnCo. Louth
    4 Three RockCo. Dublin
    5 Mount LeinsterCo. Carlow
    6 Cairn HillCo. Longford
    7 KippureCo. Wicklow
    8 MagheraCo. Clare
    9 Woodcock HillCo. Limerick
    10 Spur HillCo. Cork
    11 DungarvanCo. Waterford
    12 Holywell HillCo. Donegal
    13 GreystonesCo. Wicklow
    14 CastlebarCo. Mayo
    15 Forth Mountain Co. Wexford
    16 ArklowCo. Wicklow
    17 Gorey Co. Wexford

    18 Suir Valley Co. Waterford
    19 Waterford Co. Waterford
    20 TonabrockyCo. Galway
    21 Collins Barracks Cork City
    22 CrosshavenCo. Cork
    23 Mitchelstown Co. Cork
    24 Knockmoyle Co. Kerry
    25 DroghedaCo. Louth


    and only 3 done since the summer Collins, Knockmoyle and Arklow from what I can make out.

    Does anybody have any corrections to this 2010 list ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Can we check whether Ryan was lying to Liz McManus back in May.

    Black = Live
    Blue = Suspect Live
    Red = Not Live

    1 MullaghanishCo. Cork
    2 TruskmoreCo. Sligo
    3 Clermont CarnCo. Louth
    4 Three RockCo. Dublin
    5 Mount LeinsterCo. Carlow
    6 Cairn HillCo. Longford
    7 KippureCo. Wicklow
    8 MagheraCo. Clare
    9 Woodcock HillCo. Limerick
    10 Spur HillCo. Cork
    11 DungarvanCo. Waterford
    12 Holywell HillCo. Donegal
    13 GreystonesCo. Wicklow
    14 CastlebarCo. Mayo
    15 Forth Mountain Co. Wexford
    16 ArklowCo. Wicklow
    17 Gorey Co. Wexford

    18 Suir Valley Co. Waterford
    19 Waterford Co. Waterford
    20 TonabrockyCo. Galway
    21 Collins Barracks Cork City
    22 CrosshavenCo. Cork
    23 Mitchelstown Co. Cork
    24 Knockmoyle Co. Kerry
    25 DroghedaCo. Louth


    and only 3 done since the summer Collins, Knockmoyle and Arklow from what I can make out.

    Does anybody have any corrections to this 2010 list ???

    Mitchelstown started testing back in March and is reported live on UHF Ch 40.

    Crosshaven started testing in Feb and was reported live on Ch 34 in May.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭Antenna


    The Cush wrote: »
    Crosshaven started testing in Feb and was reported live on Ch 34 in May.

    Crosshaven moved channel from Ch34 to Ch46 about 3 months ago .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    I have a list of what is Supposed to be live "now"
    All the Black and Blue ones

    Black = Live
    Blue = Supposed to be Live
    Red = Never happening/Cancelled
    Orange/Apricot= Don't know

    1 Mullaghanish Co. Cork
    2 Truskmore Co. Sligo
    3 Clermont Carn Co. Louth
    4 Three Rock Co. Dublin
    5 Mount Leinster Co. Carlow
    6 Cairn Hill Co. Longford
    7 Kippure Co. Wicklow
    8 Maghera Co. Clare
    9 Woodcock Hill Co. Clare (Serves Limerick City and Environs)
    10 Spur Hill Co. Cork
    11 Dungarvan Co. Waterford
    12 Holywell Hill Co. Donegal
    13 Greystones Co. Wicklow
    14 Castlebar Co. Mayo
    15 Forth Mountain Co. Wexford
    16 Arklow Co. Wicklow
    17 Gorey Co. Wexford
    18 Suir Valley Co. Waterford
    19 Waterford City Carrigpherish ? **
    20 Tonabrocky Co. Galway
    21 Collins Barracks Cork City **
    22 Crosshaven Co. Cork
    23 Mitchelstown Co. Cork (Serves Co. Limerick allegedly)
    24 Knockmoyle Co. Kerry
    25 Drogheda Co. Louth Supposed to be cancelled
    25 Laragh Co. Wicklow I presume, not the one in Cavan, Monaghan or Fermanagh?
    26 Bantry Co. Cork


    ** Don't know why these are not on my list as people claim they are running.
    Also Alleged Reports of
    Clonakilty Co. Cork? Is this a mistake
    Glanmire Co. Cork? Never heard of one here either.

    So I'm a slight bit confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Could the list below be the 24 Saorview trial launch sites. With the three new Cork sites added we are almost at the 28 sites announced by Conor Hayes at the Dáil committee presentation last July.

    Black = Live
    Blue = Suspect Live
    Red = Not Live

    1 MullaghanishCo. Cork
    2 TruskmoreCo. Sligo
    3 Clermont CarnCo. Louth
    4 Three RockCo. Dublin
    5 Mount LeinsterCo. Carlow
    6 Cairn HillCo. Longford
    7 KippureCo. Wicklow
    8 MagheraCo. Clare
    9 Woodcock HillCo. Limerick
    10 Spur HillCo. Cork
    11 DungarvanCo. Waterford
    12 Holywell HillCo. Donegal
    13 GreystonesCo. Wicklow
    14 CastlebarCo. Mayo
    15 Forth Mountain Co. Wexford
    16 ArklowCo. Wicklow
    17 Gorey Co. Wexford
    18 Suir Valley Co. Waterford
    19 Waterford City (UHF Ch. 22)
    20 TonabrockyCo. Galway
    21 CrosshavenCo. Cork
    22 Mitchelstown Co. Cork
    23 Knockmoyle Co. Kerry
    24 Laragh Co. Wicklow

    25 Collins Barracks Cork City - live Dec2010

    26 Clonakilty Co. Cork
    27 Glanmire Co. Cork

    (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69596002&postcount=11)

    ?? DroghedaCo. Louth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    I can only find 42 sites.

    http://www.techtir.ie/tv-radio/Irish-DTT-Sites

    Which ones are missing?

    Or has it been cut back more?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    watty wrote: »
    I can only find 42 sites.

    http://www.techtir.ie/tv-radio/Irish-DTT-Sites

    Which ones are missing?

    Or has it been cut back more?

    Ones that I know will be done because a mate checked them for me.

    Belmullet/Dooncarton/Iorras ( interchangeable names)
    Achill
    Arranmore
    Casla (at RnaG HQ)
    Clifden

    Gone walkabout for sure since the days of the 53 .

    Galway was envisaged as probably the Hynes Building in the centre if one looks at the HighDef coverage maps for the DTT applications , then it went to Tonabrocky above the town in the end. So there is a Galway mast but it is the wrong one :)

    Westport, when the list was changed from 53 to 51 Cush and I speculated on which two were dropped and I said that one of Belmullet Achill and Westport would be dropped.....and it was Westport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    watty wrote: »
    Which ones are missing?

    Or has it been cut back more?

    Monaghan Lugad mid 2011.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Ones that I know will be done because a mate checked them for me.

    Belmullet/Dooncarton/Iorras ( interchangeable names)
    Achill
    Arranmore
    Casla (at RnaG HQ)
    Clifden

    Gone walkabout for sure since the days of the 53 .
    Or 190 or 145...

    I'm still baffled as to why there is not an Infrastructure Grant.

    I had Belmullet/Dooncarton/Iorras and Achill earlier. Must have deleted them somehow
    Aranmore I had,


    Forgot Monaghan had been mentioned.

    Updated http://www.techtir.ie/tv-radio/Irish-DTT-Sites

    So now we have 47.

    Wasn't there a suggestion from someplace that "really" there would be 48 or 49 sites?

    (maybe Divis and Strabane are 50 & 51 :) )

    (I'll not update this (all sites) http://www.saortv.info/terrestrial-saorview/tuning-saorview/ or this (active sites) http://www.saortv.info/terrestrial-saorview/transmitters/ yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    watty wrote: »
    Wasn't there a suggestion from someplace that "really" there would be 48 or 49 sites?

    Conor Hayes, in his presentation to the Oireachtas committee said 49 sites would be ready by launch next year with a further 2 by late 2012.

    The final figure may depend on the extent of coverage from the existing transmitters e.g. Mullaghanish was planned, in 2008, to go from approx 40kW to 200 kW at ASO in 2012.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Couple of significant mast extensions have been mooted, Maghera is one such.

    This may eliminate the Loughrea transmitter which was tendered for in the same batch as most of the ones done this year and since which I have heard nothing about it. I wonder if it also affected plans for the Kilduff mast ...which was a mooted 'new' Main Transmitter from the late 1990s DTT plan. The new Maghera mast will be 160m as against the older 147.5m mast.

    The old Maghera mast has combined Analogue/DTT UHF panels at c.133m-143m, the new one will have DTT only UHF panels between c.143m and 157m

    But for now all I know is that Eamon Ryan lied back in May to Liz McManus.....again :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭Antenna


    watty wrote: »
    I have a list of what is Supposed to be live "now"
    All the Black and Blue ones

    Black = Live
    Blue = Supposed to be Live
    Red = Never happening/Cancelled
    Orange/Apricot= Don't know

    1 Mullaghanish Co. Cork
    2 Truskmore Co. Sligo
    3 Clermont Carn Co. Louth
    etc
    watty wrote: »
    Glanmire Co. Cork? Never heard of one here either.

    So I'm a slight bit confused.


    Watty, if this list is being updated again, could the UHF channel (where known) for DTT also be included with the transmiter?

    Glanmire DTT on air since a few weeks ago was reported by another poster, but no mention of UHF channel in the post. Glanmire 'Saorview' is Ch 47 (682MHz) and H polarisation.
    47 is its never used TV3 analogue channel BTW.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Anytime I get fresh info or corrections I'll update. You can even post updates as comments and I'll edit the original table http://www.techtir.ie/tv-radio/Irish-DTT-Sites

    I've updated Glanmire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭marclt


    If Forth Mountain is on, do we know what frequency it is using?
    Cheers
    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    It's on the list as 52, but polarity unknown.

    http://www.techtir.ie/tv-radio/Irish-DTT-Sites


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    I was informed by RTEnl Forth Mountain, Wexford is Ch52 Vertical


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    The mast known as Dooncarton/Iorras/Belmullet ( all three names are used) is here , beside the Radar.

    Photo taken last week with the tower(s) and radar to the north of the camera, can anyone spot anything ??? :D

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/55738210@N05/5369796137/


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