FIFA 11 - Main Thread

Legwinski

The custom music is enough for me to buy it again for sure

Parawind

Parawind wrote: »

Did you really think it through, if you can get the ball back to get to the pause menu then you don't need to change formations in the first place. Its sort of a catch 22.

eeer no, we're talking about a situation where the other player has no intention of doing anything bar pass it round his defence, why are you assuming that after he loses the ball he won't do it again or does getting the ball once mean an end to the problem.... did you really think it through?

Parawind

gilberto_eire wrote: »

eeer no, we're talking about a situation where the other player has no intention of doing anything bar pass it round his defence, why are you assuming that after he loses the ball he won't do it again or does getting the ball once mean an end to the problem.... did you really think it through?

If you can get the ball back once then you can get it back again and you clearly don't need to change formations. If a person is intent on doing that over and over again a change to 4 or 5 up front isn't really going to stop them as they will just pass it from one side of midfield to the other.

But anyway lets just agree its distasteful because we are getting off topic.

Ortiz

Great read Axwell well done!

Tbh my biggest wish would be that all Premier League teams had their own stadiums (have any been added do ya know?) and that the atmosphere in games actually resembles that of real life. Sometimes it's like a funeral at some of the games. I thought the WC game improved atmosphere wise a lot so that's positive.

Also wish there was a choice of commentators can get a bit tiring listening to the auld Tyler/Gray partnership.

Pointless post really should've put it in the questions thread but didn't know it was there

Thanks anyways

Axwell

Heres a link with some updates on the new career mode

The Floyd p

The agreeing personal terms is cool.

AIR-AUSSIE

Axwell wrote: »

Heres a link with some updates on the new career mode

Any chance you could copy that article to the thread or something please. I just get a crazy error screen when I go to that link....

Axwell

Here ya go

Having received lots of feedback about Manager Mode in FIFA 10 the development team have been hard at work to bring to life the experience that users requested. Based on this feedback and the many suggestions from fans across the world Manager Mode is now changing to become Career Mode and has been built from scratch for FIFA 11.
Play through a footballer's career as a player, player-manager and then a manager. A brand new transfer system brings the ups and downs of the transfer window to life while the new calendar system means it is easier to plan your career, manage your squad or experience the thrill of breaking your way into the first team.
Players created using the new Creation Centre will be available to download into Career Mode so if you want you and your mates to all be a part of your favourite team and then manage them to ultimate glory, now you can.
There is also now a friend's leaderboard so you can see how you stack up against them in terms of stats and earnings throughout your career.
So the big question is; Player, Player-Manager or Manager? The choice is yours.

Career Mode in a bit more detail
Here in the office I've been fortunate enough to get access to an early build of Career Mode (playing as a Player-Manager) and so far it is a big change from FIFA 10. Things seem a lot slicker and refinements in a number of areas are definitely noticeable. So far I've taken Man Utd to Community Shield victory against Chelsea, signed Chiellini and Thiago Silva to replace the ageing Ferdinand and had a bid accepted for Benzema although I'm still to confirm personal terms with the player. Yes, you did read that right, "confirm personal terms with the player". The transfer system is now a two-stage negotiation where you agree a fee with the club in question and then have to agree terms with the player themselves. I've already had the experience of the club saying yes and the player saying no (Higuain) as he didn't want to move country.
There are now a few more search options in the transfer market with you being able to search for a primary attribute and a secondary attribute and respective ratings for them.
The main interface has changed dramatically and now has the look of an online "news portal", a bit like www.premierleague.com. You have a couple of news stories on display working in rotation, league ladder and top scorers lists on the right, career rating on the bottom left and then your menu options top left. The associated screenshot highlights this layout and as you progress through Career Mode you will become more familiar with it.
When changing days between matches the calendar now has a daily view and will stop progressing if there is an important action happening such as an email from a team interested in buying your player or something from the Board. You can easily see when the cup matches are, friendlies, international matches and your standard league matches. When you do get to a match and opt to Sim it there are a few new elements here as well. On the left of the screen you get both line-ups including substitutes and on the right you get a ticker updating you with important events from the match and a summary of key events from other matches happening at the same time. When you score, your players collect cards or get injured the left side of the screen updates with the appropriate symbol so you can easily see who has done what and who has been subbed.
On the side of injuries they are still there and have been tweaked as well. I got two injuries during the first match I simmed both of which were of different lengths; one 82 days and one 27 days. I got a news item on the main screen after the match telling me so and an email from the Coach drilling it in that these players would be unavailable and that I'd need to change my team selection accordingly. Injuries can also happen after matches, I played the Community Shield against Chelsea and got an email notification after winning that Rooney would be unavailable for a period having picked up a knock. Overall there are three types of injury; those that happen but aren't severe enough to sideline a player (stats reduced but can still play), those that sideline the player for a short period as they are unfit to play and those major injuries that can put a player out of action for months.
I'm still getting to grips with all the ins and outs but so far the changes that I have noticed are great and I'm enjoying playing it in the office. Look out for another article in the near future once I've guided Man Utd to victory and started a career as just a Player.

Sabre0001

Little nervous about the Personality+ - In concept it sounds great, but as stated by others above, it will be more difficult to enjoy life as a minnow team (and then of course online will be the same five teams).

New career mode sounds grand - will probably just go Player-Manager. Better have worked out the bugs though!

I can't wait until they stop wasting time on career modes and AI and pool all their resources into the actual game-play.

In this day and age everyone should have a net connection and the only reason we used to play the AI was because we didn't have the capabilities to play other people.

Kirby

I'd say about 20% of the people who buy fifa either don't have an internet connection...or don't have live.

While manager mode isn't my cup of tea, I can see the appeal of it. Single player is a very important aspect of gaming and always will be. There are far, far more Single player only games out there, than Multi-player only games.

Food for thought.

Kirby

Kirby wrote: »

I'd say about 20% of the people who buy fifa either don't have an internet connection...or don't have live.

While manager mode isn't my cup of tea, I can see the appeal of it. Single player is a very important aspect of gaming and always will be. There are far, far more Single player only games out there, than Multi-player only games.

Food for thought.

Yes but your taking it out of context. It's more like comparing playing COD ''online'' but with poor AI filling the maps, it's easier to just add real players and cut out production time wasted.

There will always be a single player only market for story driven titles...they will always appeal.

But sports games are different, they have no story and it's just as easy for a real person to take over ''team two'' then it is for the AI to play as them.

It was needed 5/10 years ago as the capabilities weren't there, so there was no other choice apart from playing friends, but with every passing year it seems a more worthless aspect.

I know some don't have net, but in fairness there aren't many who don't... i was speaking more long term, not the here and now, but in time i'd like to see all production pumped into more useful areas(online, gameplay etc...)

AIR-AUSSIE

Any news about centre backs being put onthe posts for corners?

Yea I'd really love some more proper stadiums, I mostly play serie A and there is really fool all stadiums. And juventus' stadium has been demolished for like over a year and a half.

I can't believe I'm saying it but I'd nearly pay for all stadiums and a better atmosphere.

Say a fiver for all stadiums in a league. And maybe the option to buy single ones also. I think I read for FIFA 10 that they can't fit any more on the disk. Not sure if that's true and if it was surely they could just get us to download them.

I'd like them maybe to try and encourage pple to play with different teams online more. I got fed up playing inter, barca, real all the time.

GTR63

I went back playing FIFA 10 today after playing the world cup one solid for 3 Months I hope the make the same difference in the gameplay they did there it was much bigger than I first taught.
I think the earlier indication of playing Be a Pro Goalie is coming true read about it on a story on N4G a few days ago.
Hope they don't screw Single Players like myself with another Cack Manager Mode.

Ortiz

I have an internet connection but still pretty much only play manager mode. To me playing seasons in sports games is a story!

The more Fifa manager mode can become like football manager the better I say - as realistic as possible

v3ttel

Kirby wrote: »

I'd say about 20% of the people who buy fifa either don't have an internet connection...or don't have live.

Source?

Axwell

http://www.ea.com/uk/news/fifa-11-digging-deeper-career-mode

More info on the career mode

Following the great reception for the first article about the FIFA 11 Career Mode I thought I may as well look to write this second one to add a bit more detail and talk around some of the other areas of the mode I only briefly touched on last time. Having now spent a bit more time with it I have finally started to get to grips with some of the ins and outs but that doesn’t mean I’ve mastered it by any means.

The first article started with a look at a Player-Manager career and I want to carry this on before I jump into the Player Career. So I managed to take Man Utd to FA Cup victory but only managed a 5th place finish in the league after simming all the matches to get through the season. Whilst there wasn’t a celebration or cutscene for winning the FA Cup what happened at the end of the season was quite interesting. I got a few emails from the board stating that they weren’t very happy with my performance during the season as I hadn’t met the objectives they set me (Top 4 finish). They did however offer me a contract extension on the basis that I had showed some potential and that hopefully what I had learnt from the first season would put me in with a chance for Season 2. The contract was offered and surprisingly I was also offered a contract offer by Man City at the same time. Tough choice being a Man Utd fan so I opted to stay where I was to see if I could build on my FA Cup victory from the first season. One thing I did notice as soon as I started the new season though (or rather the summer transfer period) was that my reputation had dropped down a bit and I was still a half-star manager. Looks like my failure to meet the board objectives for the first season have tarnished my reputation.

In the forums there have been some questions about transfers, training, player growth and a whole bunch of other things. To try and answer some of these here is what I experienced whilst playing; West Ham sold Matthew Upson to Sunderland and then made a bid on Paul Scholes when I put him on the market. I loaned some of my youth players out and you have the option to set for a 3 month loan or a season long loan. You can also cancel a loan if you want to bring them back at any stage but there is a penalty fee attached if you bring them back early. In the build that I am playing there doesn’t look to be an option to offer cash and a player or do a player exchange when negotiating to buy a player. There is a plus side though with the two-tiered transfer system, you can now be outbid and “sniped” when making transfers. Given that you have to first get the club to accept a bid and then discuss terms with the player the club could accept two bids and you could still lose the player if they accept personal terms from a rival.

Player growth does happen, I had a series of emails from the coach telling me that a player had improved, and those that were getting older were losing their overall rating (Giggs went down by a point over the course of the season). I also got emails telling me that a player had hit form and suggesting that I should include them in my line-up for the next match or give them a bit more responsibility. On the player growth screen you actually get comments from the coach like “Has reached his potential, isn’t going to grown anymore” or “could develop quickly if given game time”.

Given that this is completely new code and doesn’t borrow from FIFA 10 there are a couple of things that have been stripped to ensure that this fresh start for Career Mode lives up to expectations. For now there are no training options, or those to improve your stadium, negotiator, coaches etc. One of the new elements when it comes to budget and transfers though is the “Budget Allocator”, you can change the proportion of your budget allocated to transfer fees and to player wages based on a sliding scale. So I may start with a 80/20 split with £50 Million to spend and £200K wage budget, change the slider to 60/40 and that may be £40 Million to spend and £250K wage budget. This gives some flexibility if you are trying to buy specific players but haven’t got the wages to cover it, or don’t need the wages and want a bit more free cash. There is a limit however, when doing this you get the notification this is only available 3 times so you need to make your decisions wisely.

Playing Career Mode as a Player

Having flirted with Player-Manager I thought I better get to grips with what it is like in the Player Mode, what was essentially Be a Pro Seasons in FIFA 10. For this I created my VP, the fantastically named C. Elito and joined Arsenal for a bit of a change. I got the option to take long socks or short socks, shirt tucked or untucked, ankle tape or no ankle tape and a few others when creating my VP and I think I can go back and change them at a later date if I get bored of how he looks.

When I jumped into the friendly matches before the season started I had a 0/8 rating as a “Prospect” and was given the opportunity to play all the matches to show the Manager how good I was. Things didn’t quite go to plan, I managed to get reasonable ratings but didn’t score in any of the matches so my rating stayed at 0/8. I did however get an email from the coach telling me that one of my team mates had been injured in one of the friendly matches along with notification of how long he would be absent for, quite a nice touch I thought.

Moving to the first game of the season I was picked to start against Man Utd playing alongside Fabregas and Co. The game ended in a draw, 1-1, with Fab scoring a penalty I created by bustling my way into the box but overall my performance wasn’t great. After the match I got an email from the Manager letting me know that although I played well I wasn’t yet ready for the limelight and that I wouldn’t be playing the next match. I advanced through the days and had to sim the next match, and the one after that, and the one after that so much like in real life, if you don’t take the opportunities presented with both hands you will spend time on the sidelines watching. I need to make sure that next time I get to play I score a hat-trick and then see what the Manager has to say.

Other bits and pieces

I’ve also dabbled with the pure Manager element of Career Mode and this leans quite heavily to what you experience in Player-Manager however the playing element is a little different. You can still do transfers, select the team, alter the formations and have the board challenges to go against but when playing matches you control the whole team as you did last year. There is also no option to create a player or VP and have them as part of your squad. I guess this is where the line is drawn between the 3 elements of Career Mode. Player Mode you can play as your VP, get accomplishments and develop aiming for individual and international glory whilst Player-Manager you have the stresses and strains of management whilst also being able to develop a VP if you want to. All 3 have playing options in them but they each differ; Player Mode has you playing in the BAP camera mode controlling just your VP or the full team, Player-Manager has you playing in a traditional camera view (although you can change it) and who you control depends on the management decisions you make, put yourself in the starting line-up and you will only control yourself, leave your playing self off the starting 11 and you can control the whole team. As a Manager you control the whole team in the traditional kick-off style.

Parawind

Just browsing the EA Sports forums and found this hidden gem. 8th post down, straight from one of the FIFA 11 devs.

Hey,

In FIFA11 this is treated as a chip shot so has the same error applied as a chip shot (which itself was fixed in WC) so this should fix it.

Thanks,

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-11-ng-first-impressions/1284556-holding-lt-taping-x.html

So LT + X for the manual chip should have the same chance of scoring as a normal LB + B chip.

Ya chipping in the WC game is a waste of time.

I found the success rate to be rather low in 10 anyway, in instances where the player brought his goalie out on you :mad: (if i was in on goal i'd always shoot as normal, never used it unless i had a goalie running at me)
But you can finesse it over them in that situation, and if you get the right angle and see him coming, you'd score it more often then not which is nice, always hated people that did that.

Parawind

For anyone interested, EA are giving their press conference at gamescom in about a half hour @ 3pm GMT. You can view a live stream on the link below, FIFA 11 stuff is going to be near the end, as David Rutter just tweeted he will be up last this year.

http://live-event.ea.com/gamescom/live/

NTMK

Trailer:http://www.fifaworld.comule.com/index.php?news&nid=2

AIR-AUSSIE

Be a goalkeeper revealed?

DarkJager

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

Be a goalkeeper revealed?

Yep.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-17-play-as-goalie-in-fifa-11

Lamposts

Not much news on the clubs front still.

Parawind

I'm sure loads of info will come out in the next day or so, once people get to interview them and get hands on. He didn't really have to long to talk, but the goalkeepers should be interesting. No more info on the creation centre or any sort of online leagues which is dissapointing.

mailrewop

demo out September 16th

Axwell

Q & A Session from today by David Rutter

Talks about additions to FIFA Club such as friendly matches and knockout tournament along with other questions posted on facebook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zC6zmcVfOw

Jax Teller

Sick of Wayne Rooney on the cover at this stage now

Exclamation Marc

keysersoze_88 wrote: »

Sick of Wayne Rooney on the cover at this stage now

Says he with a Wayne Rooney sig

But I do agree, it's a bit expected at this stage aint it?

Who would you prefer? Do you think they should do an Irish cover again like two years ago?

I wouldn't mind someone like Giggs or Scholes, they'd be great. Or maybe someone from Lampard, Villa, Muller, Higuain, Casillas, Fabregas.

Just as long as its not Messi (sick of seeing his face on things) or Gerrard or Terry (overrated imo)




I wouldn't mind if they added a couple of legends teams and put some legend players on the front with current players, similar to NBA 2K11 with Michael Jordan (albeit on his own) on the front.

Parawind

Frankly i think we would all love another Irish cover but seems like we will just be lumped with the uk edition for now. I am so sick of rooney and that stupid shot i have to watch everytime i start up FIFA, i sware if they do that again with FIFA 11 i will pull my hair out.