Traveller's surnames

WalterMitty

Why do they have irish surnames if they are a different ethnic group?

Kasabian

Last time I checked it was cos..

minidazzler

WalterMitty wrote: »

Why do they have irish surnames if they are a different ethnic group?

Because they are the Irish who refused to go to connaught according to my history teacher, so they started roving around and making money for food by fixing tin.

They have traditional Irish surnames usually, from way back.

Chiorino

Cos they're not.

Celly Smunt

jesus wept..

Lando Griffin

minidazzler wrote: »

Because they are the Irish who refused to go to connaught according to my history teacher, so they started roving around and making money for food by fixing tin.

They have traditional Irish surnames usually, from way back.

And are the travellers in England of Irish decent or do they have their own version?

Celly Smunt

Lando Griffin wrote: »

And are the travellers in England of Irish decent or do they have their own version?

traditionally of irish decent

Terry

pmcmahon wrote: »

jesus wept..

I'm just waiting for the Waterford contingent to arrive.
Travellers get called all sorts of names, thread gets locked and then Help Desk fills up with people who want to call travellers all the names under the sun.

Let the rabble begin.

krudler

Why are they all called John-Paul and Kathleen anyway?

Lando Griffin

Lando Griffin wrote: »

And are the travellers in England of Irish decent or do they have their own version?

Are they decent? Who knows!

bonerm

It's all part of their disguise. Infiltrate the local populace etc. For example when they're on tour in Nigeria they'll black-up and use names like Paddy Odemwingie and Micko Echiéjilé.

biko

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traveller
www.irishtraveller.org.uk
and so on.


This thread is on a specific topic, travellers names. Anything else = not welcome.

Kasabian

biko wrote: »

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traveller
www.irishtraveller.org.uk
and so on.


This thread is on a specific topic, travellers names. Anything else = not welcome.

Marco Polo

Degsy

I thought you said you were a nurse!

No,i said i was a ward sister!

Degsy

Kasabian wrote: »

Marco Polo

St Brendan The Navigator.

Celly Smunt

Degsy wrote: »

St Brendan The Navigator.

willy the cock muncher

Mike 1972

Who the fup decided it was a good idea to call them "travellers". Travellers are people who move about FFS. This morning I travelled to work and this afternoon i travelled home again.

Even worse is the term "Irish travellers" particularly when applied to people who have never been to Ireland and may not even qualify for an Irish passport.

pickarooney

bluewolf wrote: »

Are they decent? Who knows!

You're like the guerrilla version of a Grammar Nazi.

Degsy

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Who the fup decided it was a good idea to call them "travellers". Travellers are people who move about FFS. This morning I travelled to work and this afternoon i travelled home again.

Even worse is the term "Irish travellers" particularly when applied to people who have never been to Ireland and may not even qualify for an Irish passport.

So is they here on holiday then?

Ozil

Does anyone know someone with the last name "Joyce" who isn't a traveller ?

Celly Smunt

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Who the fup decided it was a good idea to call them "travellers". Travellers are people who move about FFS. This morning I travelled to work and this afternoon i travelled home again.

Even worse is the term "Irish travellers" particularly when applied to people who have never been to Ireland and may not even qualify for an Irish passport.

because they are travelling with no set abode?

pickarooney

Ozil wrote: »

Does anyone know someone with the last name "Joyce" who isn't a traveller ?

I know quite a few, and none of them are related to James.

Degsy

Ozil wrote: »

Does anyone know someone with the last name "Joyce" who isn't a traveller ?

Yes

mikom

Ozil wrote: »

Does anyone know someone with the last name "Joyce" who isn't a traveller ?

James?

Anyway.........

We’re the Joyce country ceili band
Playing away and we’re doing grand
We’re singing a song won’t you give us a hand
‘Cos we’re the Joyce Country Ceili Band

Friday night , off we go
Tune the fiddle , strain the bow
Take it handy for the first few sets
Sure there’s hardly anyone listening yet

And we're the Joyce Country Ceili Band
Playing away and we’re doing grand
We’re singing a song won’t you give us a hand
‘cos we’re the Joyce Country Ceili Band

Thomas and Mary out on the floor
Well they never lost it, that’s for sure
In his sparkling shoes and his daz-white shirt
She has a brand new perm
And a pleated shkirt

And we're the Joyce Country Ceili Band
Playing away and we’re doing grand
We’re singing a song won’t you give us a hand
‘Cos we’re the Joyce Country Ceili Band

We do do’s and functions
Weddings and wakes
Meats and salads, buns and cakes
Well if you need a few tunes just give us a call
For the house the pub or the parish hall

And we're the Joyce Country Ceili Band
Playing away and we’re doing grand
We’re singing a song won’t you give us a hand
‘Cos we’re the Joyce Country Ceili Band

There’s a princess on the floor all night
She can fairly throw them shapes alright
Howya bridie are you on you own?
Howya fixed far a seat back home

And we're the Joyce Country Ceili Band
Playing away and we’re doing grand
We’re singing a song won’t you give us a hand
‘Cos we’re the Joyce Country Ceili Band

Yes we're the Joyce Country Ceili Band

Mike 1972

pmcmahon wrote: »

because they are travelling with no set abode?

I know "travellers" who have lived in the same place for over two decades while Ive lived at over fifteen different addresses during the same period

Celly Smunt

Mike 1972 wrote: »

I know "travellers" who have lived in the same place for two decades while Ive lived at over fifteen different addresses over the same period

traveller.

Degsy

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Pa Connors from Killinaskully is aptly named for a traveller.

Conners one and all.

And of course the great Blacky Connors...the mixed race offspring.

KnifeWRENCH

Ozil wrote: »

Does anyone know someone with the last name "Joyce" who isn't a traveller ?

My housemate in college last year. And his dad was a guard, so I'm fairly sure his family weren't travellers.

Mike 1972

And then there was William Joyce

billy the squid

biko wrote: »

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traveller
www.irishtraveller.org.uk
and so on.


This thread is on a specific topic, travellers names. Anything else = not welcome.

In fairness, if I wanted wikipedia to say that Travellers have two heads and eat settled people's children it would only take a few seconds to make it so.

billy the squid

minidazzler wrote: »

Because they are the Irish who refused to go to connaught according to my history teacher, so they started roving around and making money for food by fixing tin.

They have traditional Irish surnames usually, from way back.

Legislation to curtail what was termed the "Wandering Irish" dates back as far as 1243, a very long time before "To Hell or To Connaught."

http://books.google.com/books?id=Iz28AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA45&lpg=PA45&dq=uk+statute+books+1243+wandering+irish&source=bl&ots=x3kaqInX0t&sig=GZ2oN68wRr6effmK_gxKqK1FX80&hl=en&ei=xKJJTJamA5260gTbzaCFCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

jpb1974

Why do they have irish surnames if they are a different ethnic group?

Why does it matter and who cares?

CreepingDeath

jpb1974 wrote: »

Why does it matter and who cares?

Because we might be able to deport them as illegal immigrants.

billy the squid

Also, it is worth point out that many of the residents of Monserat have Irish surnames, even though most of them are black.

Names change and are pretty much bastardised over the centuries. One possibility , and as what happened in Ellis Island in the 1800s, names were changed by the authorities to ones which were easier to pronounce. It is possible that English occupiers gave local Irish English sounding names.

jpb1974

Because we might be able to deport them as illegal immigrants.

I found 'After Hours' today and after 36 years of living I've never seen so much racism in one place.

Good luck... I'm done here.

Celly Smunt

jpb1974 wrote: »

I found 'After Hours' today and after 36 years of living I've never seen so much racism in one place.

Good luck... I'm done here.

its not racism! its ethnic criticism!

aDeener

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Who the fup decided it was a good idea to call them "travellers". Travellers are people who move about FFS. This morning I travelled to work and this afternoon i travelled home again.

Even worse is the term "Irish travellers" particularly when applied to people who have never been to Ireland and may not even qualify for an Irish passport.

yeah its a bit silly alright, i refer to them as tinkers which of course comes from the traditional irish way of referring to them "tincéirí"


anyway op, names to be vigilant of are mcdonagh, nevin, stokes, joyce, mongan, hannifin, and ward. now obviously not everyone with these surnames are tinkers but some are so watch out.

WindSock

There are plenty of Maoris and Australian Aborigines with Irish surnames too. I guess that makes them Irish then?

brianthebard

KnifeWRENCH wrote: »

My housemate in college last year. And his dad was a guard, so I'm fairly sure his family weren't travellers.

Are travellers not allowed be guards?

jpb1974

its not racism! its ethnic criticism!

Aye.. too ignorant too see the error of your own ways.

Celly Smunt

jpb1974 wrote: »

Aye.. too ignorant too see the error of your own ways.

the funny thing is i agree with you i just like the statement

Celly Smunt

brianthebard wrote: »

Are travellers not allowed be guards?

if they didn't have an address maybe,or if they're closely connected to criminals also,but that could be the same with anybody so i dunno

aDeener

WindSock wrote: »

There are plenty of Maoris and Australian Aborigines with Irish surnames too. I guess that makes them Irish then?

you didn't just compare...... jesus

ejmaztec

WindSock wrote: »

There are plenty of Maoris and Australian Aborigines with Irish surnames too. I guess that makes them Irish then?

...and we musn't forget Eddie Murphy.

TwoShedsJackson

jpb1974 wrote: »

I found 'After Hours' today and after 36 years of living I've never seen so much racism in one place.

Good luck... I'm done here.

Thanks for announcing it so we all know someone is outraged on the internet.

WindSock

aDeener wrote: »

you didn't just compare...... jesus

No I don't think I mentioned Jesus. Is Christ an Irish surname too?

jpb1974

Thanks for announcing it so we all know someone is outraged on the internet.

Sorry... not outraged at all.

If you're ignorant then chances are you're too ignorant to know it.

Your problem, not mine

Jumpy

jpb1974 wrote: »

If you're ignorant then chances are you're too ignorant to know it.

Clap your hands ... If your ig'nt and ye know it clap ... *pauses* this isnt working is it.

TwoShedsJackson

jpb1974 wrote: »

Sorry... not outraged at all.

If you're ignorant then chances are you're too ignorant to know it.

Your problem, not mine

You're still here then?

Chiorino

jpb1974 wrote: »

I found 'After Hours' today and after 36 years of living I've never seen so much racism in one place.

Good luck... I'm done here.

Just to be clear, AH isn't racist but....

aDeener

WindSock wrote: »

No I don't think I mentioned Jesus. Is Christ an Irish surname too?

there's more jesus' than christ ya know....


comparing the tinkers to aborigines and maoris..... what planet are you on?