Bohemian Grove - What are these Freaks up to ? ha!

King Mob

squod wrote: »

What dude on the where now?

Those aren't owls....

Can you provide a single reputable source that shows moloch is depicted as an owl?

TalkieWalkie

King Mob wrote: »

Now you see in a proper discussion, someone would add some kind of context for this picture....
But it's clear you've no interest in a discussion.

It speaks for itself homeboy

King Mob

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

It speaks for itself homeboy

No it doesn't....

It doesn't say what's happening in the photo...
It doesn't say where or when it was taken....

squod

King Mob wrote: »

It is a sculpture. It is based on the symbol of the Grove, an owl.
They probably use it to make their ceremony more spectacular.

Can you provide anything to support the idea that they kill anything in front of it.

I really don't know how to make that any clearer...

When did you read my post suggesting there was someone being killed exactly? Also if it is an owl as you say since when did people kill other people in front of owls? Did David Attenborough know about this?

TalkieWalkie

King Mob wrote: »

Those aren't owls....

Can you provide a single reputable source that shows moloch is depicted as an owl?

Twit twoo


Hoot hoot

King Mob

squod wrote: »

When did you read my post suggesting there was someone being killed exactly?

So then you agree that there is nothing to support the idea that their are sacrifices in the Grove?

squod wrote: »

Also if it is an owl as you say since when did people kill other people in front of owls? Did David Attenborough know about this?

That's what TW is claiming.

King Mob

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Twit twoo
Hoot hoot

Awesomely mature.

How do these pictures answer my question?

PirateShampoo

squod wrote: »

When did you read my post suggesting there was someone being killed exactly? Also if it is an owl as you say since when did people kill other people in front of owls? Did David Attenborough know about this?

Are you reading the same thread as the rest of us or are you deliberately trying to be obnoxious and confusing?

TalkieWalkie

King Mob wrote: »

So then you agree that there is nothing to support the idea that their are sacrifices in the Grove?


That's what TW is claiming.

Fear and Loathing Where Good Men Die Like Dogs
Posted Sunday, July 4, 2010, at 7:22 PM

Born in Louisville, Ky., in 1937, Hunter S.Thompson was one of the greatest writers to ever put meaningful words to paper. He was brutally honest, bitterly cynical and brilliantly accurate. He once described America as "a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. There is also a negative side."

In his book GENERATION OF SWINE, Thompson described heaven as "a place where the swine will be sorted out at the gate and sent off like rats, with huge welts and lumps and puncture wounds all over their bodies -- down the long black chute where ugliness rolls over you every 10 or 16 minutes like waves of boiling asphalt and poison scum, followed by sergeants and lawyers and crooked cops waving rule books; and where nobody laughs and everybody lies and the days drag on like dead animals and the nights are full of whores and junkies clawing at your windows and tax men jamming writs under your door and the screams of the doomed coming up through the air shaft along with white cockroaches and red stringworms full of AIDS and bursts of foul gas with no sunrise and the morning streets full of preachers begging for money and fondling themselves with gangs of fat young boys trailing after them."

Thompson studied journalism at Columbia University and began his writing career in the military as editor of the Eglin Air Force Base newspaper. In 1959, he became a Caribbean correspondent for The New York Herald Tribune and later spent two years in South America as a correspondent for the National Review.

Years later, as he was writing a story about the Kentucky Derby for Scanlan's magazine, he was up against a deadline that he couldn't meet so he jerked pages out of his notebook, numbered them and faxed them to the publisher, convinced it would be the last story he would ever write.

"Buy the ticket, take the ride."

Instead, gonzo journalism was born.

Gonzo journalism is a highly subjective and personal form of reporting, characterized by exaggeration and sarcasm. Fact disguised as fiction. The stories are basically true but driven home by outrageous observations.

Thompson was a literary giant in a world gone mad. The day after President Kennedy was assassinated he wrote, "The savage nuts have shattered the great myth of American decency... I mean to come down from the hills and enter the fray." He went on to describe the "fear and loathing" that had engulfed him and vowed to henceforth vent his journalistic rage against the perpetual tide of injustice regardless of the consequences.

His contempt for politicians was legendary, characterizing them as "mainly dull people with corrupt instincts and criminal children." He called Richard Nixon "a swine of a man," Sen. Hubert Humphrey "a shallow, contemptible and hopelessly dishonest old hack" and Sen. Ed Muskie "a vicious 200-pound water rat." He dubbed Bill Clinton "a white-trash hillbilly" and referred to boy George Bush as "a treacherous little freak."

From Thompson's perspective, reality was a daunting existence of inequity and horror. "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me," he once said in an interview.

He was the king of gonzo journalism. His beat was the death of the American dream and he was clearly in deep torment about the subject. For him, the American dream had faded so far beyond the horizon that drugs and alcohol could no longer blot it out, and there wasn't enough insanity left in him to overcome the anguish.

On February 20, 2005, Hunter S. Thompson put the barrel of a .45 handgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger, then lingered at the gates of heaven, waiting to be sorted out from the swine.

But fear and loathing still permeate the long plastic hallway of America.

Thompson left no suicide note. His latest project was an expose on 9/11 (potentially the most important thing he would ever write, linking the government to the tragedy). He was on the phone with his wife, Anita, while his son was in another room at the time of his death. Later in interviews, Anita said she heard a muffled thud sound and was waiting for him to get back on the phone. His son said he believed a book had fallen when he heard the shot -- certainly not the sound of a .45 caliber handgun.

To add mystery to the mystery, Deputy Ron Ryan noted at the scene that the Smith & Wesson .45 found next to Thompson's body had 6 bullets left in the clip but there was no bullet in the firing chamber, as there should have been under normal circumstances. When one bullet is fired, the next bullet in the clip advances into the firing chamber. A spent shell casing was found nearby and a spent slug was found in the stove hood behind the body.

The conspiracy to silence Hunter S. Thompson also leads down the some very diabolical paths, which he may have also been investigating.

One path leads to Bohemian Grove, a satanic summer camp for rich, powerful global leaders located in a secluded area near Sacramento, California. Activities include mock human sacrifices made before a giant owl statue called Moloch, by neo-pagans in druid robes. This satanic ritual is called "The Cremation of Care." Moloch is a demon that requires human sacrifice, also referred to as the Prince of Hell.

Another path leads to a gay prostitute named Jeff Gannon (a.k.a. Johnny Gosch, a.k.a. James Dale Guckert) and a homo-pedophilia ring involved in high levels of the Bush administration. If you dig deep enough, you come across MK-Ultra, the Monarch Project, Lawrence King, boy prostitutes, snuff films, etc. Many spooks in high places want to keep a lid on such nefarious activity.

Fear and loathing abounds where good men die like dogs.

http://www.areawidenews.com/blogs/1215/entry/35811/

squod

King Mob wrote: »

Those aren't owls....

Can you provide a single reputable source that shows moloch is depicted as an owl?

Can you prove it isn't? Can you also answer my question.....

squod wrote: »

Seriously like, what significance would an owl have at a cremation of care ceremony. Could you please make some sense of this for me. I'm really not following you.

summer camp for rich, powerful global leaders located in a secluded area near Sacramento, California. Activities include mock human sacrifices made before a giant owl statue called Moloch, by neo-pagans in druid robes.

http://www.areawidenews.com/news/

PirateShampoo

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Twit twoo


Hoot hoot

Any chance of you backing up ur claim of going to the Grove after you where invited?

squod

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Are you reading the same thread as the rest of us or are you deliberately trying to be obnoxious and confusing?

You?

TalkieWalkie

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Are you reading the same thread as the rest of us or are you deliberately trying to be obnoxious and confusing?

Sup yo, welcome back. I don't appreciate this comment and will be making a complaint to my mate Humanji.

"obnoxious and confusing"

So insulting

King Mob

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

http://www.areawidenews.com/blogs/1215/entry/35811/

I see we're operating on different definitions of the word "reputable".

Anything more substantial or do you just believe everything to read?

PirateShampoo

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Sup yo, welcome back. I don't appreciate this comment and will be making a complaint to my mate Humanji.

"obnoxious and confusing"

So insulting

Go ahead, but i dont know why you would find it insulting unless you have 2 accounts?

humanji

That's it. The lot of you grow the f*ck up! Next person to be insulting, condescending, purposefully pedantic or just plain taking the piss is banned for the rest of the night.

King Mob

squod wrote: »

Can you prove it isn't?

Squod how many times has the Burden of Proof been explained to you?
Do you not understand how silly that demand is?

But since you have to rely on such a tired and silly tactic it's clear you have nothing to support the idea that Moloch is ever depicted owl.
I would hazard a guess and say you've just bought this little non-fact uncritically from the usual nonsense sources.

squod wrote: »

Can you also answer my question.....

I did, twice.

squod

King Mob wrote: »

I did, twice.

Linky? The burden of proof is on you and I. I'm holding my side of the bargain you are not.




Again I ask

squod wrote: »

Seriously like, what significance would an owl have at a cremation of care ceremony. Could you please make some sense of this for me. I'm really not following you.

enfant terrible

"The Bohemian Grove, that I attend from time to time but it is the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine, that San Francisco crowd that goes in there; it's just terrible! I mean I won't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."—President Richard M. Nixon

TalkieWalkie

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Any chance of you backing up ur claim of going to the Grove after you where invited?

Now you have proof.

TalkieWalkie

humanji wrote: »

That's it. The lot of you grow the f*ck up! Next person to be insulting, condescending, purposefully pedantic or just plain taking the piss is banned for the rest of the night.

Ok, just seen that now. Starting from now... go

King Mob

squod wrote: »

Linky? The burden of proof is on you and I.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=67101440&postcount=100
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=67101345&postcount=90

So you do understand then why your request was so silly then?
Can you explain why you made it?

squod wrote: »

I'm holding my side of the bargain you are not.

Seriously?
An unknown picture with a unattributed caption on photobucket?
Would you accept this as any kind of evidence?

PirateShampoo

squod wrote: »

Linky? The burden of proof is on you and I. I'm holding my side of the bargain you are not.




Again I ask

But it isnt represented by a owl, its clearly not a owl in any of the pictures you have posted.

squod

What I said

squod wrote: »

Seriously like, what significance would an owl have at a cremation of care ceremony. Could you please make some sense of this for me. I'm really not following you.

What you said

King Mob wrote: »

What's the point of Spire? Or of that big sphere thingie at the central bank?
It's a sculpture of a owl, propably made to add some drama to their shenanigans.

Do you see now? You're explanation doesn't add up to much does it. A ritual designed to erase the conscience of the partaker is set around some random object, according to you.
Not a ritual set around a diety like. No, that would make sense!

:rolleyes:

King Mob wrote: »

So you do understand then why your request was so silly then?

:rolleyes:

K-9

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Now you have proof.

Brilliant! How do you that?

Been on Boards 3 years or so now and that is the funniest post I've seen.

Di0genes

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

http://www.areawidenews.com/blogs/1215/entry/35811/

And yet amazingly there isn't a single word about 9/11 conspiracy theories has ever been published by Thompson. Even posthumously. Why if he was planning to write an exposure of 9/11 wasn't his article finished by his friends or family?

I'll tell you why. Because like your claim about being invited to Bohemian Grove it's utterly fabricated. It's contemptible lying. I have every book published by Thompson on my shelve up to and including both volumes of his collected letters and this claim is spurious nonsense.

As to Alex Jones and Bohemian Grove, Jon Ronson was with Jones when he attempted his "infiltration" of the Grove, and while Jones was wandering through poison ivy taking bad video Ronson walking in through the front door, and attended the "secret" "ritual sacrifice" without even having to show his ID. I've C&P'd his account before on this forum.

King Mob

squod wrote: »

What I said

What you said

Do you see now? You're explanation doesn't add up to much does it. A ritual designed to erase the conscience of the partaker is set around some random object, according to you.
Not a ritual set around a diety like. No, that would make sense!

The owl is the symbol for the Club, so they made a big owl statue.
And the ritual isn't meant to have an magic effects on the people.
It's just a bit of fun.

Why is this so impossible exactly?

You've also yet to show that the owl is a god at all.

What is your explanation exactly?

squod wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Why is it so hard to answer a simple question?

Why did you ask:

Can you prove it isn't?

squod

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Now you have proof.

Post of the day!

TalkieWalkie

Owl

squod

King Mob wrote: »

The owl is the symbol for the Club, so they made a big owl statue.
And the ritual isn't meant to have an magic effects on the people.
It's just a bit of fun.

Why is this so impossible exactly?

You've also yet to show that the owl is a god at all.

What is your explanation exactly?

squod wrote: »

Not a ritual set around a diety like.

I take it that your sticking to your story of the owl just being some random yoke, caught up in a ritual, for which there is no explanation. That's sensible alright.

Jebus.

Anyhow, to put your logic into some context I have a quote.

What I do KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF ANY DOUBT is that WHATEVER the hell it’s name is…
The damned thing DEMANDS A TERRIBLE SACRIFICE,and my old dictionary (and MANY other sources online) calls that a “Molech”…

You're making incredible assertions and then not backing them up with anything. Who are we expected to believe here?


http://molech.weebly.com/who-exactly-is-molech.html

Di0genes

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Owl

Looks more like Optimus Prime to me.

TalkieWalkie

Di0genes wrote: »

Looks more like Optimus Prime to me.

If it hoots, it's an owl

King Mob

squod wrote: »

I take it that your sticking to your story of the owl just being some random yoke, caught up in a ritual, for which there is no explanation. That's sensible alright.

Jebus.

That's not what I'm saying at all. Read my post.

The owl is the symbol of the club. So it's not random

squod wrote: »

Anyhow, to put your logic into some context I have a quote.

You're making incredible assertions and then not backing them up with anything. Who are we expected to believe here?

I'm not asserting anything, I've providing an alternate explanation, which given the available evidence fits better than "human sacriface cult".

So could you point out a claim I've made that I haven't backed up?

Could you please supply some solid evidence that moloch has ever been depicted as an owl.
Or in the likely event that you can't provide such evidence at least admit as much.

TalkieWalkie

K-9 wrote: »

Brilliant! How do you that?

What ?






Photoshop

King Mob

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Owl

Looks like that thing from the Neverending story.

Di0genes

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

What ?






Photoshop

So you admit you were lying when you claimed you had an invite?

Glad we cleared that up.

TalkieWalkie

King Mob wrote: »

That's not what I'm saying at all. Read my post.

The owl is the symbol of the club. So it's not random



I'm not asserting anything, I've providing an alternate explanation, which given the available evidence fits better than "human sacriface cult".

So could you point out a claim I've made that I haven't backed up?

Could you please supply some solid evidence that moloch has ever been depicted as an owl.
Or in the likely event that you can't provide such evidence at least admit as much.

You are missing the point mobster.
They worship a giant own, it's name could be moloch or mandy, make no difference.

The only reason (i believe), it has become an issue, is because there is no other defence, no argument.

When a bomb lands on your house, are you going to bitch about the colour of it ?

No..

Lets stick to the point. Our leaders are forelocking in the woods. Can you deny this ?

TalkieWalkie

King Mob wrote: »

Looks like that thing from the Neverending story.

Well it was designed by a freak too

King Mob

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

You are missing the point mobster.
They worship a giant own, it's name could be moloch or mandy, make no difference.

The only reason (i believe), it has become an issue, is because there is no other defence, no argument.

When a bomb lands on your house, are you going to bitch about the colour of it ?

No..

Lets stick to the point. Our leaders are forelocking in the woods. Can you deny this ?

Well you've yet to show that they actually worship this thing at all.
Or show that they are doing anything illegal or immoral at this grove.

K-9

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

What ?






Photoshop

Thought it would be Gimp, Freemen and all that!

TalkieWalkie

King Mob wrote: »

Well you've yet to show that they actually worship this thing at all.
Or show that they are doing anything illegal or immoral at this grove.

It is proven, over and over.

Resulting in treason.

I'll go into it tomorrow. Night all

King Mob

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

It is proven, over and over.

We are reading the same thread right?

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Resulting in treason.

I'll go into it tomorrow. Night all

Yea, like when you backed up your claim that you where there...

TalkieWalkie

Di0genes wrote: »

And yet amazingly there isn't a single word about 9/11 conspiracy theories has ever been published by Thompson. Even posthumously. Why if he was planning to write an exposure of 9/11 wasn't his article finished by his friends or family?

I'll tell you why. Because like your claim about being invited to Bohemian Grove it's utterly fabricated. It's contemptible lying. I have every book published by Thompson on my shelve up to and including both volumes of his collected letters and this claim is spurious nonsense.

As to Alex Jones and Bohemian Grove, Jon Ronson was with Jones when he attempted his "infiltration" of the Grove, and while Jones was wandering through poison ivy taking bad video Ronson walking in through the front door, and attended the "secret" "ritual sacrifice" without even having to show his ID. I've C&P'd his account before on this forum.

You took an..
You took an..

Was he gonna say Oath ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONBFAlZSM4

squod

King Mob wrote: »

Or in the likely event that you can't provide such evidence at least admit as much.

The annual gathering near the Russian River, which was first held in 1879, starts with the “Cremation of Care” ritual, in which the club’s mascot is burned in effigy to an owl god (Moloch), symbolizing a freedom from care. .

By Suzanne Bohan, Bee Correspondent (Published Aug. 2, 1999)

For decades, there have been vague rumors of weird goings on in Bohemian Grove in more remote parts of its 2200 acres. Reliable reports claim Druidic like rituals - druids in red hooded robes marching in procession and chanting to the Great Owl (Moloch) - a funeral pyre with “corpses”. (Scores of men work in the Bohemian Grove as servants so this party is fairly well established.)

Antony C. Sutton, editor of an excellent monthly newsletter, Phoenix Letter, stated in the October, 1996 edition:

http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/newstart/bohemian-grove/

Why do the world eleite worship MOLECH the owl?

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090907125823AAmPM7m


The onus is on you KingMob to back up your assertions. The owl is synonamous with moloch/moleck etc.

As I said.....

squod wrote: »

You're explanation doesn't add up to much

King Mob

squod wrote: »

The onus is on you KingMob to back up your assertions.

What assertions have I made that I haven't backed up?

squod wrote: »

The owl is synonamous with moloch/moleck etc.

As I said.....

Again, the best you can do is an angelfire site? And a editor for a newsletter?
And Yahoo answers?

Would you accept this as anything even coming close to evidence?

squod

King Mob wrote: »

What assertions have I made that I haven't backed up?


Again, the best you can do is an angelfire site? And a editor for a newsletter?
And Yahoo answers?

Would you accept this as anything even coming close to evidence?

Where as your story makes no sense, can't be backed up by anything and comes accross as a rant. Who do you expect people are going to believe?

King Mob

squod wrote: »

Where as your story makes no sense, can't be backed up by anything and comes accross as a rant.

So you can't find an assertion I made that I haven't backed up?
Now you're moving the goalposts?

And what exactly doesn't make sense?
The owl is the symbol for their club. So they made a big ass statue of one.
It's entirely possible that they built it to add flare and drama to their traditional performance.

You've yet to actually lay out your explanation for it.

You've yet to show that Moloch has ever been depicted as an owl.

Where exactly did you learn this and how do you know its true?

squod wrote: »

Who do you expect people are going to believe?

Certainly not the one who spends his posts either dodging the question, or posting really silly sources.

squod

King Mob wrote: »

Certainly not the one who spends his posts either dodging the question, or posting really silly sources.

This comming from one who posts none?

The motive for these sacrifices is not far to seek. It is given in Micah vi. 7: "Shall I give my first-born for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?"

Read more: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=718&letter=M#ixzz0uewn5wwg

Or pretty much whats happening in the cremation of care ceremony, you're story still doesn't make sense and isn't credible.

King Mob

squod wrote: »

This comming from one who posts none?

You realise you just dodged the question again right?

And again I have to ask you the same questions.
What claims have I made that aren't backed up?
What about my explanation doesn't make sense?
Have you any reputable sources that show Moloch has ever been depicted as an owl.

squod wrote: »

Or pretty much whats happening in the cremation of care ceremony, you're story still doesn't make sense and isn't credible.

1) you haven't actually show anything to indicate that moloch is the owl statue.
2) no one here has shown that anything human or otherwise is actually killed in the show.

And no that's clearly not what happens in the ceremony.

Again, which part of my "story" doesn't make sense?
And could you please explain what your "story" is. and why it make more sense?

squod

King Mob wrote: »

Again, which part of my "story" doesn't make sense?

Any of it, jumping to conclusions and providing absolutely no evidence to back up your story still I see.



Getting you this for Christmas, unless you believe Christmas is a conspiracy too.