Alex Higgins R.I.P. Condolences thread

Donkey Oaty

Dudess wrote: »

By that logic, people can't comment on/have an opinion on ANYTHING.

John Virgo still would.

SugarHigh

Arthurdaly wrote: »

Really? Because you have achieved so much in this life? When you have influenced anything come back and comment!

Saying someone isn't a genius isn't an insult so calm down pampers.

I just don't see how genius is in anyway an appropriate term to describe someone who was given a chance at a good life but instead pissed it up a wall.

We really do give sports stars too much credit.

Arthurdaly

Dudess wrote: »

By that logic, people can't comment on/have an opinion on ANYTHING.

He achieved and influenced people, did you? Genius? If you understood the sport maybe you could comment. In his field yes he was a genuis!

SugarHigh

Arthurdaly wrote: »

He achieved and influenced people, did you? Genius? If you understood the sport maybe you could comment. In his field yes he was a genuis!

If you understood the definition of genius maybe you could comment.

Ann22

Rip Alex, Glad his long struggle is over.:(

Arthurdaly

SugarHigh wrote: »

If you understood the definition of genius maybe you could comment.

You can type, thats about the height of your achievement, well done.

NoHornJan

SugarHigh wrote: »

What made him a genius?

He was a natural talent...

aDeener

SugarHigh wrote: »

Good at snooker and a good entertainer but hardly a genius. A genius wouldn't smoke and drink themselves into an early grave.

ffs is it not obvious to you that he clearly meant higgins was a genius at snooker!

you obviously aren't a genius if you didnt gather that, or you are being a nuisance for the sake of it.

WIZE

SugarHigh wrote: »

Saying someone isn't a genius isn't an insult so calm down pampers..

I laughed:D

Dudess

Arthurdaly wrote: »

He achieved and influenced people, did you?

Of what relevance is it whether I have or haven't? My point is, you don't have to be an expert in something to have an opinion on it. E.g. I'm guessing you're not an actor/film-maker yet you've criticised films...

He's the reason my brother's named alan..the aul pair met him when my mother was pregnant, and they were gonna call the baby alex, but he said no, call it alan..
Anyway,
R.I.P.

SugarHigh

aDeener wrote: »

ffs is it not obvious to you that he clearly meant higgins was a genius at snooker!

you obviously aren't a genius if you didnt gather that, or you are being a nuisance for the sake of it.

It's not possible to be a genius at snooker. While it might be strategic compared to most sports it's not very deepc ompared to chess.

Since being good at snooker depends more on a natural ability to use a cue and not your brain I don't see how anyone in snooker is a genius.

It's just sports fans trying to make playing games seem more important than it is.

Adyx

Daisy Steiner wrote: »

RIP Alex Higgins.






Pretty sure it's considered (and named) the bereavement forum, not a condolences forum.

AFAIK it's for people suffering bereavement related issues not for people who want to show a mark of respect to a celebrity. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

There was an RIP/Condolences forum approved as well but there's no sign of it being set up.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055930255

skelliser

THE MAN WAS A GENIUS AT SNOOKER. END OFF.

Anyone who plays/likes/follows snooker will say the same so give over and take your pedantic nonsense somewhere else.

Sharpshooter

SugarHigh wrote: »

What made him a genius?

SugarHigh wrote: »

Good at snooker and a good entertainer but hardly a genius. A genius wouldn't smoke and drink themselves into an early grave.

SugarHigh wrote: »

Saying someone isn't a genius isn't an insult so calm down pampers.

I just don't see how genius is in anyway an appropriate term to describe someone who was given a chance at a good life but instead pissed it up a wall.

We really do give sports stars too much credit.

SugarHigh wrote: »

If you understood the definition of genius maybe you could comment.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that you are trolling this thread.

Stop!

My name is URL

Met him a few years ago at a poker tournament. Seemed like a nice enough guy... he looked fairly rough even then

Donkey Oaty

Dudess wrote: »

Of what relevance is it whether I have or haven't? My point is, you don't have to be an expert in something to have an opinion on it. E.g. I'm guessing you're not an actor/film-maker yet you've criticised films...

Does porn count?

Abrasax

SugarHigh wrote: »

It's not possible to be a genius at snooker. While it might be strategic compared to most sports it's not very deepc ompared to chess.

Since being good at snooker depends more on a natural ability to use a cue and not your brain I don't see how anyone in snooker is a genius.

It's just sports fans trying to make playing games seem more important than it is.

It never ceases to amaze me how every thread, no matter the subject, develops in to an argument of some discription.

In snooker terms the man was widely regarded as a genius, a precursor to O'sullivan.

And snooker doesn't rely on your brain.? Try starting a thread on that one in the snooker forum.

Bonito

Nevore wrote: »

For obituaries/RIPs or for sports?

Anyway, RIP

For condolence threads.

Daisy Steiner wrote: »

Pretty sure it's considered (and named) the bereavement forum, not a condolences forum.

AFAIK it's for people suffering bereavement related issues not for people who want to show a mark of respect to a celebrity. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Nope I seen it a while back in the "New forums" heading in the drop down menu. It's called book of condolences.

Dudess wrote: »

By that logic, people can't comment on/have an opinion on ANYTHING.

Oh come on now, we both know that's not logic. :pac:

SugarHigh

Sharpshooter wrote: »

It doesn't take a genius to work out that you are trolling this thread.

Stop!

That's not what I'm doing. If they were claiming he was batman and I told them different would that be trolling? Saying he's a genius is around the same level of absurdity.

He was good a player, he may or may not have been a nice guy but he was definitely not a genius and he wasn't Irish none of us would care.

Arthurdaly

Dudess wrote: »

Of what relevance is it whether I have or haven't? My point is, you don't have to be an expert in something to have an opinion on it. E.g. I'm guessing you're not an actor/film-maker yet you've criticised films...

Post your opinion elsewhere buddy. You know very little about the subject so move along!!!

Donkey Oaty

SugarHigh wrote: »

It's not possible to be a genius at snooker. While it might be strategic compared to most sports it's not very deepc ompared to chess.

Since being good at snooker depends more on a natural ability to use a cue and not your brain I don't see how anyone in snooker is a genius.

It's just sports fans trying to make playing games seem more important than it is.

There is one skill that is often overlooked in snooker which is choice of shot.

I can see how they thought he was gifted for picking out some of these. I can also see how they thought he was a madman for picking some of the ones he didn't get.

But the ones he did? Er..."snooker genius". Abbreviation: "genius".

KrazeeEyezKilla

Abrasax wrote: »

It never ceases to amaze me how every thread, no matter the subject, develops in to an argument of some discription.

Some people would start an argument about anything.

I don't remember Higgins playing but without him Snooker would have never made it as a TV sport. His match with Jimmy White in the 1982 World Semi Final had some unreal pots, stuff you wouldn't even see today.

unkel

Ann22 wrote: »

Rip Alex, Glad his long struggle is over.:(

+1

RIP

SugarHigh

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

There is one skill that is often overlooked in snooker which is choice of shot.

I can see how they thought he was gifted for picking out some of these. I can also see how they thought he was a madman for picking some of the ones he didn't get.

But the ones he did? Er..."snooker genius". Abbreviation: "genius".

Snooker isn't a very deep strategical game. It may seem like it is to sports fans but it is very easily solved what the best solution is at any given time. So even if he picked the best shot every time it simply isn't an intensive enough task to deserve to be called a genius.

Abrasax

SugarHigh wrote: »

That's not what I'm doing. If they were claiming he was batman and I told them different would that be trolling? Saying he's a genius is around the same level of absurdity.

He was good a player, he may or may not have been a nice guy but he was definitely not a genius and he wasn't Irish none of us would care.

"Alex Higgins", genius - google search results = 3370 3410 (and rising)

More than you'll get for your genius opinions on the skillset of snooker.

SugarHigh

KrazeeEyezKilla wrote: »

Some people would start an argument about anything.

I don't remember Higgins playing but without him Snooker would have never made it as a TV sport. His match with Jimmy White in the 1982 World Semi Final had some unreal pots, stuff you wouldn't even see today.

It was a TV sport for decades by the time Alex came along?

It was even broadcast in black and white as nonsensical as that sounds.

skelliser

SugarHigh wrote: »

Snooker isn't a very deep strategical game. It may seem like it is to sports fans but it is very easily solved what the best solution is at any given time. So even if he picked the best shot every time it simply isn't an intensive enough task to deserve to be called a genius.

You clearly know nothing about snooker so move along.

Bonito

Christ. Every single condolences thread in here gets blasted to shíte because of the amount of tripe and idiotic posts.

The man was a genius at what he did. End of. Show some respect. Not that fúcking hard to do really. You type 3 letters, then if you've nothing positive to say about the person, leave.

It doesn't take a genius to figure that out and then do it!

OutlawPete

SugarHigh wrote: »

Snooker isn't a very deep strategical game. It may seem like it is to sports fans but it is very easily solved what the best solution is at any given time. So even if he picked the best shot every time it simply isn't an intensive enough task to deserve to be called a genius.

I wasn't going to bother replying to your posts as I thought the video I posted would be enough to shut you up.

Here is the Oxford English Dictionary definition of 'Genius' that is being applied in the context of this thread:

"..an exceptionally intelligent person or one with exceptional skill in a particular area of activity.."

Sharpshooter

SugarHigh wrote: »

That's not what I'm doing. If they were claiming he was batman and I told them different would that be trolling? Saying he's a genius is around the same level of absurdity.

He was good a player, he may or may not have been a nice guy but he was definitely not a genius and he wasn't Irish none of us would care.

Batman was a fictional character so no you wouldn't be trolling.

Alex Higgins was a genius with the ability he had to use that cue, now if you want to argue that fact then off to the Snooker forum with you and best of luck.

Just don't do it in this thread.

Arthurdaly

Mods can you close this thread and move to snooker and pool?

Bonito

Arthurdaly wrote: »

Mods can you close this thread and move to snooker and pool?

+1. It'll be treated properly there.

Arthurdaly

Bonito wrote: »

Christ. Every single condolences thread in here gets blasted to shíte because of the amount of tripe and idiotic posts.

The man was a genius at what he did. End of. Show some respect. Not that fúcking hard to do really. You type 3 letters, then if you've nothing positive to say about the person, leave.

It doesn't take a genius to figure that out and then do it!

Agreed man, Gerry Ryan got the same treatment! Ridiculous!

Donkey Oaty

SugarHigh wrote: »

He was good a player, he may or may not have been a nice guy but he was definitely not a genius and he wasn't Irish none of us would care.

I understand what you're saying, but I think you are wrong on the "If he wasn't Irish" point. OK, it might not have been posted here if he was English, but - unusually for sport - snooker fans are generally above nationality.

dlofnep

RIP - He had a rough few years at the end.

CarrickMcJoe

Alex Higgins RIP

Nothing like watching himself and Jimmy White battling it out, pure genius.
No characters left now in the game.

Donkey Oaty

dlofnep wrote: »

RIP - He had a rough few years at the end.

True...and extremely rough at the beginning as well.

Sharpshooter

Arthurdaly wrote: »

Mods can you close this thread and move to snooker and pool?

Bonito wrote: »

+1. It'll be treated properly there.

Arthurdaly wrote: »

Agreed man, Gerry Ryan got the same treatment! Ridiculous!

Much as I would like to, there is a thread over there already.

And the people in AH deserve to be able to post their condolences so I will leave this open.

If you spot a troll report it.:pac:

mathepac

Rest In Peace Alex, although it seems some mindless idiots are determined to deny you in death the peace you seldom enjoyed in life.

You were a true snooker genius who almost single-handedly dragged the game you loved kicking and screaming into the modern, professional, colour-TV world it inhabits today. Thanks.

SEPT 23 1989

very sad news RIP:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxpfBWMOlOk

Arthurdaly

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

What a great story. I'm sure it went down well in court.

Anyone else have amusing stories about domestic violence by recently deceased sporting stars?

Mods?

Bonito

Arthurdaly wrote: »

Mods?

See this button.

You'll have to press it.

nacho libre

reading Jimmy White's book about their exploits in Ireland and beyond had me in stiches. How the man made it to 61 with all the scrapes he got into i just don't don't know.


RIP:(

bonerm

True genius with a cue. Was famed for performing unbelievable pots and snookers were on a level ahead of his peers. He could open up his play to delight the audience once a score of 65-70 had been attained that no-one could match.

Rest under table.

Sharpshooter

Arthurdaly wrote: »

Mods?

I'm on it.

Bonito wrote: »

See this button.

You'll have to press it.

In this case he didn't need to, I was watching the thread.

MiciG91

RIP Alex gone but not forgotten..

K-9

SugarHigh wrote: »

Snooker isn't a very deep strategical game. It may seem like it is to sports fans but it is very easily solved what the best solution is at any given time. So even if he picked the best shot every time it simply isn't an intensive enough task to deserve to be called a genius.

Ronnie O'Sullivan doing a 147 in 4 minutes isn't a genius?

Only got to see him play on TV near the end of his career, the late 80's. But, even then, some of the shots he took on then were unthought of. He opened up the game and made it far more entertaining and exciting than it ever was. I'd say he was 20 years ahead of his time, he was that far ahead of everybody else.

The shame of course is he only had 2 World Championships to show for it but no more of that, we all know why.

RIP Alex.

keefg

Considering his health, today's news of Alex' passing wasn't a shock but still very sad to hear all the same.

One of this islands greatest sportsmen. RIP.

mikom

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonito
Christ. Every single condolences thread in here gets blasted to shíte because of the amount of tripe and idiotic posts.

The man was a genius at what he did. End of. Show some respect. Not that fúcking hard to do really. You type 3 letters, then if you've nothing positive to say about the person, leave.

It doesn't take a genius to figure that out and then do it!

Arthurdaly wrote: »

Agreed man, Gerry Ryan got the same treatment! Ridiculous!

Now there was a genius.....