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Larry Murphy (Read mod note on post 1 before posting)

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    #62
    peanuthead
    Registered Users Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    caseyann wrote: »
    I can see how there will be in alot of people for this case.Hopefully all the women of the country are paying attention and know who he is.If he does it again and they have no proof,as he seems to be very intelligent in disposing of evidence if he is in fact related to the other missing cases.So this time he might not mess up for a while again.:( Only for he couldn't have predicted those two guys out shooting.He would have been still going.

    I read about that story in quite detail. Have a bit of an interest in murder, crime etc.. The boyf is not too comfortable about it all, thinks he's going to end up under the patio one day (I told him no, thats too obvious! lol) but back OT, how lucky was she? I really feel for her now, as I think I remember hearing that she has tried to push for him to serve the remainder of his sentence. She doesn't want him out and I think its wrong that her requests have fallen on deaf ears.


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    #63
    johngalway
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    caseyann wrote: »
    I can see how there will be in alot of people for this case.Hopefully all the women of the country are paying attention and know who he is.If he does it again and they have no proof,as he seems to be very intelligent in disposing of evidence if he is in fact related to the other missing cases.So this time he might not mess up for a while again.:( Only for he couldn't have predicted those two guys out shooting.He would have been still going.

    I just realised about your first quote, where you put one of my lines on bold. That line wasn't referring to this case, just a general point.

    Fellas out shooting get to see and notice a lot of stuff. Whether it's by day or night, often mentioned it to the local Garda.


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    #64
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    peanuthead wrote: »
    Yeah, I think she ran away from home for about a week. A whole messed up story behind it, but 1. not sure if its known and 2. not sure if it's true so I won't go there.

    Lynette - she moved out, got a new life and a new habits etc.. couldn't believe it when I heard but could at the same time if you know what I mean. Her family still live here I think (I don't socialise much around where I live!!)

    Yeah i know what you mean,poor girl :(


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    #65
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    No doubt? While I find this man despicable and there is a good chance he is responsible for some of these murders and disappearances, there is no proof that he has actually murdered anybody. 2 of the cases you posted earlier as being linked to him have been proved to have nothing to do with him at all. Maybe you should leave the investigating to the Gardai.

    Life in prison should mean just that. What does killing the criminal achieve? If anything being killed is less of a punishment than spending the rest of your life behind bars.

    I didnt say they had anything to do with him i said after the fact,there was more disappearances and murders.Two of which i hadnt heard any conclusion in which one of them i was happy to hear alive and well.


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    #66
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    peanuthead wrote: »
    I read about that story in quite detail. Have a bit of an interest in murder, crime etc.. The boyf is not too comfortable about it all, thinks he's going to end up under the patio one day (I told him no, thats too obvious! lol) but back OT, how lucky was she? I really feel for her now, as I think I remember hearing that she has tried to push for him to serve the remainder of his sentence. She doesn't want him out and I think its wrong that her requests have fallen on deaf ears.

    lol i have my oh says same.


    She was very very lucky,seriously if not for them.I fear to think :( I dont know how anyone can get out and showing no remorse or refusing receiving counseling.Yet his sentence is reduced. :confused:


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    #67
    deepsouthtalla
    Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭deepsouthtalla


    This man is the reason why we should bring back the Death Penalty, him and that fella Wayne Dundon down in limerick i would gladly pull the lever* r push the button^,

    *Gas Chamber http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Gaschamber.jpg

    ^Lethel Injection http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/03/05/Utah_080304120356901_wideweb__300x375,1.jpg

    I would rather the gas chamber be used in ireland

    DST


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    #68
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    johngalway wrote: »
    I just realised about your first quote, where you put one of my lines on bold. That line wasn't referring to this case, just a general point.

    Fellas out shooting get to see and notice a lot of stuff. Whether it's by day or night, often mentioned it to the local Garda.

    I know you weren't.:)

    If not for them how many things may have happened.


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    #69
    MagicMarker
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    Where is this guy going to live? If he's a register sex offender doesn't he have to disclose where he's living?

    The guy will be dead within a week of release.


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    #70
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Where is this guy going to live? If he's a register sex offender doesn't he have to disclose where he's living?

    The guy will be dead within a week of release.

    Is it possible that they would set him up in the UK somewhere? Although I'm sure he would still be found there too


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    #71
    Jigga
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    The interview with his brother can be watched at 43 minute mark: http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1077410


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    #72
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Is it possible that they would set him up in the UK somewhere? Although I'm sure he would still be found there too


    I was going to say,is he able to travel with been convicted rapist and attempted murderer.Because you know the 15 year rule.I dont know how it applies for European countries.


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    #73
    sickofwaiting
    Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭sickofwaiting


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Where is this guy going to live? If he's a register sex offender doesn't he have to disclose where he's living?

    The guy will be dead within a week of release.

    No he won't. Who is going to be the big man who is going to try and take on a psycho serial killer? And who wants to spend the rest of their life in jail for committing murder?

    Its an absolute this disgrace that this guy is getting released. The punishment for attempted murder should be the same as murder as the intent is exactly the same. It was just through pure luck that that girl survived.


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    #74
    ilovelamp2000
    Registered Users Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Where is this guy going to live? If he's a register sex offender doesn't he have to disclose where he's living?

    The guy will be dead within a week of release.

    He's rumoured to be building a house in Blessington, Co. Wicklow


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    #75
    Coriolanus
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    sickofwaiting wrote: »
    No he won't. Who is going to be the big man who is going to try and take on a psycho serial killer? And who wants to spend the rest of their life in jail for committing murder?

    Its an absolute this disgrace that this guy is getting released. The punishment for attempted murder should be the same as murder as the intent is exactly the same. It was just through pure luck that that girl survived.
    Don't be ridiculous, this is why we have gradients in charges involving fatalities.
    So an attempted murder should carry the same charge as murder, what about manslaughter or death from criminal negiligence? Someone actually dies in those cases and yet somehow the person found guilty serves less time than someone who just tried?

    I know this whole thing is an emotive issue but the naivety and internet hardman mentality of a lot of people is pretty pathetic to watch.
    Rosco1982 wrote: »
    He's rumoured to be building a house in Blessington, Co. Wicklow
    I live in Blessington and can't say I object. Then again I believe in the rule of law.


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    #76
    aDeener
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    Nevore wrote: »
    Don't be ridiculous, this is why we have gradients in charges involving fatalities.
    So an attempted murder should carry the same charge as murder, what about manslaughter or death from criminal negiligence? Someone actually dies in those cases and yet somehow the person found guilty serves less time than someone who just tried?

    I know this whole thing is an emotive issue but the naivety and internet hardman mentality of a lot of people is pretty pathetic to watch.


    I live in Blessington and can't say I object. Then again I believe in the rule of law.

    ehh bit of a difference between manslaughter and murder - there is no intent in the former. the only reason attempted murder is not murder is because of luck, it should be the exact same sentence.


    funny how you talk of the internet mentality when you yourself get all high horseman on everyone else here. my balls you wouldnt have a problem with this fella as your next door neighbour...... pathetic lie for the sake of being the "bigger man" you could do well to learn from what you spout here :rolleyes:


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    #77
    Ann22
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    He was in Newbridge at the time of Deirdre Jacob's dissappearance and lived near to where Jo Jo Dullard went missing. He was so organised in the abduction and assault of the Carlow woman, it's difficult to believe it was his first attempt.
    There's no evidence to suggest that he had anything to do with the disappearances of the above women but I'd be highly suspicious.

    larry-murphy2.jpg

    Just another photo, we all should be able to recognise him.


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    #78
    Coriolanus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    aDeener wrote: »
    ehh bit of a difference between manslaughter and murder - there is no intent in the former. the only reason attempted murder is not murder is because of luck, it should be the exact same sentence.


    funny how you talk of the internet mentality when you yourself get all high horseman on everyone else here. my balls you wouldnt have a problem with this fella as your next door neighbour...... pathetic lie for the sake of being the "bigger man" you could do well to learn from what you spout here :rolleyes:
    Yes, that's true, but the consequences are the same. What you want to instigate is a system where people aren't punished according to the consequences of their actions but rather their intent. If you can't see why that is patently absurd, I don't what else to say.

    And I do live in Blessington. If I had a problem with the idea, surely I'd be expressing that, since if I had a fear of live and limb that would be more important than making a point on the interweb.


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    #79
    Ann22
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    He's not going to be able to control himself on release, no way. It happens with offenders like him again and again up until they're to old to overpower anyone.:(


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    #80
    Ann22
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    sickofwaiting wrote: »
    No he won't. Who is going to be the big man who is going to try and take on a psycho serial killer? And who wants to spend the rest of their life in jail for committing murder?

    Its an absolute this disgrace that this guy is getting released. The punishment for attempted murder should be the same as murder as the intent is exactly the same. It was just through pure luck that that girl survived.

    I totally agree. I suggest people should read the Sunday world book that was published about the case. What he put that poor girl through was absolutely horrific, he fully intended to kill her in the cruellest most degrading way possible. I can't imagine how she's going to cope knowing she could run into him anywhere.


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    #81
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Ann22 wrote: »
    He was in Newbridge at the time of Deirdre Jacob's dissappearance and lived near to where Jo Jo Dullard went missing. He was so organised in the abduction and assault of the Carlow woman, it's difficult to believe it was his first attempt.
    There's no evidence to suggest that he had anything to do with the disappearances of the above women but I'd be highly suspicious.

    larry-murphy2.jpg

    Just another photo, we all should be able to recognise him.

    All he has to do is change hair colour:(


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    #82
    Ann22
    Registered Users Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭Ann22


    caseyann wrote: »
    All he has to do is change hair colour:(

    At least he has a fairly distinctive foxy like appearance and a deep chin dimple, I suppose he could grow a beard to hide that though:(.

    I was watching that 'Psychic detectives' programme (could well be a load of crap) and one of them said JoJo's killer had something distinctive around his mouth...like a scar or something. I was wondering if it was Murphy's dimple:eek:.


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    #83
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Ann22 wrote: »
    At least he has a fairly distinctive foxy like appearance and a deep chin dimple, I suppose he could grow a beard to hide that though:(.

    I was watching that 'Psychic detectives' programme (could well be a load of crap) and one of them said JoJo's killer had something distinctive around his mouth...like a scar or something. I was wondering if it was Murphy's dimple:eek:.

    I thought he looked very distinctive.but with a hair colour change and a goatee problem solved.


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    #84
    up for anything
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    Nevore wrote: »
    Yes, that's true, but the consequences are the same. What you want to instigate is a system where people aren't punished according to the consequences of their actions but rather their intent. If you can't see why that is patently absurd, I don't what else to say.

    Sometimes people should be punished according to their actions and their intent.

    He put that woman through a hell most of us will be lucky never to know. There was the force he used on her, the actual physicality of the three rapes, the battering she was subjected to in being in the boot of a moving car compounding the injuries she had already sustained, the physical pain of the the process of strangulation and added to those the sheer, mental terror, stress and madness she felt throughout the ordeal. The fact that she begged him to kill her can only mean that what she was suffering was completely unbearable but she had to bear it.

    Should all that really only carry a charge of attempted murder! Should he really be allowed now to try and rebuild his life. If I were her, New Zealand wouldn't be far enough away for me to move to in order to get a decent night's sleep.


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    #85
    MagicMarker
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    sickofwaiting wrote: »
    No he won't. Who is going to be the big man who is going to try and take on a psycho serial killer? And who wants to spend the rest of their life in jail for committing murder?

    Big man? Being the ''big man'' has nothing to do with it, him being a ''psycho serial killer'' has nothing to do with it. If his victim was your sister could you just forget about it? I don't think I could. I'm not a violent person but sometimes there are extenuating circumstances that allow you do things that you wouldn't normally do.


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    #86
    Coriolanus
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    up for anything wrote: »
    Sometimes people should be punished according to their actions and their intent.

    He put that woman through a hell most of us will be lucky never to know. There was the force he used on her, the actual physicality of the three rapes, the battering she was subjected to in being in the boot of a moving car compounding the injuries she had already sustained, the physical pain of the the process of strangulation and added to those the sheer, mental terror, stress and madness she felt throughout the ordeal. The fact that she begged him to kill her can only mean that what she was suffering was completely unbearable but she had to bear it.

    Should all that really only carry a charge of attempted murder! Should he really be allowed now to try and rebuild his life. If I were her, New Zealand wouldn't be far enough away for me to move to in order to get a decent night's sleep.
    No he should have been charged with multiple counts of rape, kidnapping, unlawful detention, grievious bodily harm and attempted murder. And there should be a statutory ban on judges allowing time to be served congruently rather than in succession.
    Our justice system is broken beyond all measure and this case is one example of how. He should have served more time BUT the charge of attempted murder should not be made synonymous with murder.


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    #87
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    How would you react to him if you ran into him,or saw him out with some female who doesnt know? And how many females will not know about this case or what he looks like.

    Does anyone remember the case of the solider who did the same thing to a girl and murdered her in those flipping mountains.He was from walkinstown as far as i remember.Is he still locked up?


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    #88
    Ann22
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    caseyann wrote: »
    How would you react to him if you ran into him,or saw him out with some female who doesnt know? And how many females will not know about this case or what he looks like.

    Does anyone remember the case of the solider who did the same thing to a girl and murdered her in those flipping mountains.He was from walkinstown as far as i remember.Is he still locked up?

    Was that Phylis Murphy's killer John Crerar you're thinking of? He was an ex army sergeant, he murdered her in 1979 but wasn't jailed 'til 2002 because of developments in dna testing and a false alibi being uncovered. I'd imagine he's still locked up.

    It probably wouldn't do you any good anyway to recognise him (Murphy) if you did happen to run into him. The girl he abducted from Carlow was taken off guard by a sudden smack in the face in a carpark beside her workplace. It wasn't a lonely road in the dead of night. She probably hadn't even seen him approaching.


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    #89
    ilovelamp2000
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    Nevore wrote: »


    I live in Blessington and can't say I object. Then again I believe in the rule of law.

    And did my innocuous statement lead you to believe that I don't believe in the rule of law ?

    Can you say sanctimonious ? :rolleyes:


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    #90
    ilovelamp2000
    Registered Users Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    Nevore wrote: »
    No he should have been charged with multiple counts of rape, kidnapping, unlawful detention, grievious bodily harm and attempted murder. And there should be a statutory ban on judges allowing time to be served congruently rather than in succession.
    Our justice system is broken beyond all measure and this case is one example of how. He should have served more time BUT the charge of attempted murder should not be made synonymous with murder.

    Why ?

    I want to see make reference to the "rule of law" here again.


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    #91
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Ann22 wrote: »
    Was that Phylis Murphy's killer John Crerar you're thinking of? He was an ex army sergeant, he murdered her in 1979 but wasn't jailed 'til 2002 because of developments in dna testing and a false alibi being uncovered. I'd imagine he's still locked up.

    It probably wouldn't do you any good anyway to recognise him (Murphy) if you did happen to run into him. The girl he abducted from Carlow was taken off guard by a sudden smack in the face in a carpark beside her workplace. It wasn't a lonely road in the dead of night. She probably hadn't even seen him approaching.
    Could he have something to do with some of the missing women?

    I dont know it doesnt sound familiar that case,this guy i am talking about dropped his gf home,and went out and killed this girl, and was in his 20's or early thirties when charged.he bashed her head in with a brick as far as i recall.And was something to do with walkinstown.


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