Racist Old People

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Mickeroo wrote: »

I remember watching that, could not believe what i just heard. Classic.

He announced his resignation the following week, and the last people he interviewed were the broadcast complaints folk

Mickeroo

ascanbe wrote: »

But who can say why he reacted as he did?
Perhaps, just before this, he would have been delighted by any reference to his chocolate-coloured complexion.
Perhaps he had even given himself a nickname that reflected his pride in it; 'sexual chocolate' or somesuch.
Perhaps he had just been dumped by some girl that very day and was at the pool in the vain hope that a swim would ease his mind and deflect his thoughts from the fact that his very perception of himself had just been reduced to tatters.
I'm going to assume that this was the case and so must applaud the man for simply betraying a mild disapproval at the child's cruel comment, unwitting as it may have been.
Given the circumstances, he showed uncommon decorum.

Of course you're right to a degree. He had every right to be offended, doesn't mean he should have been though.

Are 4 year olds capable of genuine, cold, calculated cruelty?

ascanbe

BluesBerry wrote: »

Perhaps you think too much?

Or pehaps i wasn't being entirely serious; though i was making serious point.

southsiderosie

Mickeroo wrote: »

Of course you're right to a degree. He had every right to be offended, doesn't mean he should have been though.

Are 4 year olds capable of genuine, cold, calculated cruelty?

Are you serious? Offended by a comment from a 4 year old?

Donkey Oaty

What's the word for a person from a small island off the coast of Europe who finds similarities between the Spanish description of "black" and its similarity to an offensive term for black people worthy of use of the phrase "probably be banned"?

Edit: or "wouldn't be allowed now"

KittyeeTrix

ascanbe wrote: »

But who can say why he reacted as he did?
Perhaps, just before this, he would have been delighted by any reference to his chocolate-coloured complexion.
Perhaps he had even given himself a nickname that reflected his pride in it; 'sexual chocolate' or somesuch.
Perhaps he had just been dumped by some girl that very day and was at the pool in the vain hope that a swim would ease his mind and deflect his thoughts from the fact that his very perception of himself had just been reduced to tatters.
I'm going to assume that this was the case and so must applaud the man for simply betraying a mild disapproval at the child's cruel comment, unwitting as it may have been.
Given the circumstances, he showed uncommon decorum.

You wouldn't by any chance have been in Leisureland swimming pool in Galway on July 5th 2005???:p

Only joking bud;)

ascanbe

Mickeroo wrote: »

Of course you're right to a degree. He had every right to be offended, doesn't mean he should have been though.

Are 4 year olds capable of genuine, cold, calculated cruelty?

I didn't say they were; you should read my post again.
I was also joking, to a certain degree.

ascanbe

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

You wouldn't by any chance have been in Leisureland swimming pool in Galway on July 5th 2005???:p

Only joking bud;)

Give a brother a break.

luv-eirexx

My granny often refers to protestants up north as "Joeys" or "one of themselves". . . .Never heard anyone else use those phrases, could just be her:D!!
Also we never have our American relatives over visiting, its always those "yanks".

She refers to coloured people as "blackies" . . .


Though in fairness to her she has never used any of these terms in front of these people . . . . . . THANK GOD!!

KittyeeTrix

ascanbe wrote: »

Give a brother a break.

Ah jaysus, I'm only messin'with ya!!;)

Edit: Sorry, givin the brother a break!!!!!
I'm a bit slow on the uptake tonight

KungPao

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

What's the word for a person from a small island off the coast of Europe who finds similarities between the Spanish description of "black" and its similarity to an offensive term for black people worthy of use of the phrase "probably be banned"?

Edit: or "wouldn't be allowed now"

Que?

Mickeroo

southsiderosie wrote: »

Are you serious? Offended by a comment from a 4 year old?

no i'm not serious,read my earlier post!

southsiderosie

luv-eirexx wrote: »

My granny often refers to protestants up north as "Joeys" or "one of themselves". . . .Never heard anyone else use those phrases, could just be her:D!!
Also we never have our American relatives over visiting, its always those "yanks".

She refers to coloured people as "blackies" . . .


Though in fairness to her she has never used any of these terms in front of these people . . . . . . THANK GOD!!

This thread reminds me of the Chris Rock skit where he claims the most racist people in America are old black men. I just think once people get to a certain age, they don't really give a fcuk about what anyone else thinks and they are too old and tired to change their ways.

Plus they are kind of funny.

scudzilla

I give you the daddy of all old racist people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tW8USvdb4k

southsiderosie

Mickeroo wrote: »

no i'm not serious,read my earlier post!

Sorry, the comments are popping up too fast and I am always about 3 minutes behind!

KittyeeTrix

luv-eirexx wrote: »

She refers to coloured people as "blackies" . . .

My dad would've referred to black people as "darkies" when we were much younger but it was never meant in a bad way and he certainly wouldn't now!!

round tower huntsman

i remember as kids,bout 25 yrs ago, when my da would be driving us home from a rugby match(ten pints on him) down the south circular road, he'd spot a black man and shout "look at the black man" at which point we'd all jump up to the window(no seat belts) to get a look at some un-suspecting black man going about his business:eek::eek:
how times have changed, for the better i might add.
old irish people are from a different world.

Donkey Oaty

KungPao wrote: »

Que?

Not directed at you, amigo.

round tower huntsman

Brysen Jolly Racehorse wrote: »

"My aul man used to be real open minded about everything"


that was until the whole wife swapping thing went tits up!

Mickeroo

southsiderosie wrote: »

Sorry, the comments are popping up too fast and I am always about 3 minutes behind!

threads are fairly hectic on AH i have to say.

KungPao

I wonder if we will all turn into raving racists in our later years?

Is it a natural progression? :eek:

Donkey Oaty

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

What's the word for a person from a small island off the coast of Europe who finds similarities between the Spanish description of "black" and its similarity to an offensive term for black people worthy of use of the phrase "probably be banned"?

Edit: or "wouldn't be allowed now"

What's this all about now? If you have something to say then say it.

weiland79

I remember years ago my dad used to play football and there was a guy on the team that everyone used to call N!gger Doyle. Funny thing was, he wasn't black or brown or any colour you would associate with this word.

The really strange thing was that there were two black brothers on the team too and inexplicably they used to call him N!gger too!.

Rockery Woman

Brysen Jolly Racehorse wrote: »

My aul man used to be real open minded about everything, now he's just cynical and bitter and refers to all foreigners as 'cunts'

Can't wait to move out, 3 weeks!!

Good luck with the move

My name is URL

Till Death Us Do Part was ahead of its time. Even if it was new today it would be ahead of its time

people avoid whole subjects now out of fear of being branded a racist, how is that any better than someone being open with their opinions without actually hurting anybody, and actively engaging with them?

Miss Lockhart

My neighbour (in her 60s) said to my other neighbour (a black man of about 70, born and bred in Dublin) "Fair play to you - working like a black" while he was out scrubbing his windows.

He just laughed but she was completely mortified.

Donkey Oaty

Karsini wrote: »

What's this all about now? If you have something to say then say it.

I think that if you think the word "negro" as a colour description on a Spanish product would "not be allowed now" then you either don't understand the meaning of the word or the world or possibly both.

Comprende?

Donkey Oaty

My name is URL wrote: »

people avoid whole subjects now out of fear of being branded a racist, how is that any better than someone being open with their opinions without actually hurting anybody, and actively engaging with them?

Internet content suggest otherwise. The YouTube comments on "Ebony and Ivory" are worth a look if you're starved of non-racially-sensitive opinions.

antomagoo

Out with the folks (both in their 70's) before we got married and the da asks are we having any music in the church for the wedding. Told him we were getting a gospel choir to which he replied "oh right" with a curious look on his face. Anyway we carried on chatting away when all of a sudden he shouts out "what? Blacks?" Nearly wet myself laughing as the OH went about explaining it to him

KittyeeTrix

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

My neighbour (in her 60s) said to my other neighbour (a black man of about 70, born and bred in Dublin) "Fair play to you - working like a black" while he was out scrubbing his windows.

He just laughed but she was completely mortified.

That was a very common saying which many people still say without realising they're doing, me included if I'm honest!!!:o

Have often caught myself just in time and have said instead "working like a mad thing"!!

Definitely not meant to be offensive or racist

BluesBerry

My Mam had 2 dogs 1 called n1gger and 1 called Bimbo in the 50's and 60's

Also my gran has turned into the most unpredictable person imaginable you will never know what she will come out with

and think of the dirty auld one from naked camera and thats my gran the filth that has started to come out of her mouth lately

you call her up on some things she said she pretends she has the auld alzimers and blatantly says she didnt say that or conviently "forgets" in her late 70s and still sharp as a tack

old people you gotta love em

weiland79

creggy wrote: »

Racist old people are hiliarious...

It's mad how it was acceptable back in the day

Look at this film trailer. Yes, it's a real film back in the 70s.

1:20 of the video is quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTIklFsMjjU

That is hilarious.

southsiderosie

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

That was a very common saying which many people still say without realising they're doing, me included if I'm honest!!!:o

Have often caught myself just in time and have said instead "working like a mad thing"!!

Definitely not meant to be offensive or racist

I always thought it was funny that people said this, because the other stereotype about black people is that they are lazy...how can these two co-exist?

Miss Lockhart

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

That was a very common saying which many people still say without realising they're doing, me included if I'm honest!!!:o

Have often caught myself just in time and have said instead "working like a mad thing"!!

Definitely not meant to be offensive or racist

I'm aware of the phrase, but it's pretty bad to actually say it to a black person!

BluesBerry

southsiderosie wrote: »

I always thought it was funny that people said this, because the other stereotype about black people is that they are lazy...how can these two co-exist?

That is an old saying I think it went back to the times of the slavery in america you would find a lot of older people using this I dont hear it too often now

round tower huntsman

southsiderosie wrote: »

I always thought it was funny that people said this, because the other stereotype about black people is that they are lazy...how can these two co-exist?

they were worked hard but lazy if you spared the rod.

Mickeroo

southsiderosie wrote: »

I always thought it was funny that people said this, because the other stereotype about black people is that they are lazy...how can these two co-exist?

You're thinking of Mexicans. Black people were slaves.

southsiderosie

southsiderosie wrote: »

I always thought it was funny that people said this, because the other stereotype about black people is that they are lazy...how can these two co-exist?

Mickeroo wrote: »

You're thinking of Mexicans. Black people were slaves.

What?

KittyeeTrix

southsiderosie wrote: »

I always thought it was funny that people said this, because the other stereotype about black people is that they are lazy...how can these two co-exist?

I've no idea.....

For me it was a saying I grew up hearing and something I said without thinking about it at all!! It would've been akin to me saying something such as "sweating like a pig" or "mad as a hatter".....

I wouldn't have been thinking of black people whatsoever just merely using a phrase to describe how much hard work I'd been doing. don't say it now but once in a blue moon I would almost slip and say out of habit!!!

southsiderosie

BluesBerry wrote: »

That is an old saying I think it went back to the times of the slavery in america you would find a lot of older people using this I dont hear it too often now

My dad is black, and he used to say "they had me working like a Hebrew slave". But he is also a bit of a holy roller, so I think it's more of a biblical euphemism.

In the US today you are more likely to hear "working like a Mexican".

(Mickeroo, is that what you meant?)

Mickeroo

southsiderosie wrote: »

What?

Mexicans are stereotyped as being lazy. Black people were slaves

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>working like a black.

Was joking too!

KittyeeTrix

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

I'm aware of the phrase, but it's pretty bad to actually say it to a black person!

Obviously, and that's why I don't say it!! It wasn't said by me when growing up to be offensive but rather it was just a turn of phrase which is now quite rightly defunct in Ireland

Has anyone else over the age of 35 knowledge of this phrase being used when they were younger???

Miss Lockhart

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

Obviously, and that's why I don't say it!! It wasn't said by me when growing up to be offensive but rather it was just a turn of phrase which is now quite rightly defunct in Ireland

Has anyone else over the age of 35 knowledge of this phrase being used when they were younger???

I'm under 35 and I have heard used regularly even now.

Mickeroo

southsiderosie wrote: »

My dad is black, and he used to say "they had me working like a Hebrew slave". But he is also a bit of a holy roller, so I think it's more of a biblical euphemism.

In the US today you are more likely to hear "working like a Mexican".

(Mickeroo, is that what you meant?)

Not heard that one before

southsiderosie

Mickeroo wrote: »

Mexicans are stereotyped as being lazy. Black people were slaves

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>working like a black.

Not these days...Mexicans are infamously hard workers. Although one's view of them might have more to do with how one feels about immigration; either they are really hard workers, or they are scroungers that are ruining the country...hm, kind of like the way people talk about Poles in Ireland.

round tower huntsman

black people are stero typed as lazy also... "thats one lazy ******" by ron atkinson" for example

BluesBerry

southsiderosie wrote: »

My dad is black, and he used to say "they had me working like a Hebrew slave". But he is also a bit of a holy roller, so I think it's more of a biblical euphemism.

In the US today you are more likely to hear "working like a Mexican".

(Mickeroo, is that what you meant?)

So every country has their own variations on that saying..... thats interesting I never knew that

Mickeroo

southsiderosie wrote: »

Not these days...Mexicans are infamously hard workers. Although one's view of them might have more to do with how one feels about immigration; either they are really hard workers, or they are scroungers that are ruining the country...hm, kind of like the way people talk about Poles in Ireland.

lol, like darragh o'brian said,thats cause the poles stole our act! :pac:

KittyeeTrix

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

I'm under 35 and I have heard used regularly even now.

I'd imagine for most people it is a slip of the tongue to use a phrase that wouldn't have been problematic before but then again some people might not care about the offense it could cause......

For me, it's a phrase I would not use anymore! I would never want anybody of any colour to feel offended by a phrase I'd used even if it wasn't said to deliberately be offensive:)

davrho

God bless yer old Granny!

my auld gran was bitter bigot of a woman. Her dog was called Darkie Doyle.

My elder sister married a Hindu. On his first visit to Scotland we had a big dinner party to celebrate. She looked him up and down, gave him a big hug then in front of everybody said "at least your not a protestant son". The rest of us never knew where to look.

Even worse. When Mark Walters signed for rangers she was in complete outrage. Her words "we have been giving the black babies money for years and this is what they do to us"

When I moved to Dublin ten years ago, she came to the airport to see me off on the flight. "your going home son"

I miss the old fecker but christ she was a racist biggoted old women. (Owen take note)