BBC WDYTYA? new series

pinkypinky

In case people here have missed it, started last week with Bruce Forsyth, Rupert Everett on right now on BBC1.

Alicat

Two very good episodes so far

pinkypinky

I thought they could have investigated the first wife more thoroughly this evening. On the BBC familyhistory board, they've already done more and traced her! Bruce's was very good though.

sweet-rasmus

Tonight's episode is on Dervla Kirwan; supposidly Michael Collins is her great uncle. Should be good for researching Free State family members. Can't wait!

Alicat

Dervla Kirwin's father's side of the tree is actually more interesting than the Michael Collins story

pinkypinky

Agreed and very sad too.

shanew

I found several articles where Henry appeared in court for betting offences - usually with someone named Joseph Kahn. At least one of these (dated Oct 1901) was before the same recorder that imprisoned Henry later on - Frederick Falkiner.. so here seems like there may have been some history between them..

I'd love to know if Henry actually did damage Mrs. Marks shop window on Aston quay and if so why - some dispute over a bet ?


Shane

oms

Hi ShaneW

Where can i find the 1901 article or any article about the above. I too would like to know about the shop window. I saw the one about Henry Kahn. I am a relation of them and the programme was an eye opener and very sad about the rascism. Look forward to reply.

shanew

I think it was in the Irish Times Archive.. see http://www.irishtimes.com/search/archive.html (subscription website)

I also found a few other details - e.g. Henry's adult baptism to RC, if that's of interest let me know and I'll find the link and post it


Shane

oms

Thanks Shane, will pass on to my cousins. I have found the baptism, death cert. not online. All very interesting.

shanew

I think I saved copies of the articles ....I'll have a look and let you know.


Shane

neelyohara

Aah! I missed it!

Thanks for the heads up - might still be available on iplayer but if not I'm sure I can track down the episodes from one source or another!

3 little birds

Anyone know if Dervla Kirwan's episode is online anywhere?

sweet-rasmus

If you are in the UK (or know your way around IP blocking) you can see it on the BBC iPlayer. They do eventually release it all on DVD, but that will be €€€... There might be other sources.

losthorizon

On Monday August 23 its about the comedian Alexander Armstrong. He has some Irish connection(s) as his starting point is Burkes Irish Landed Gentry. Could be Interesting.

pinkypinky

Oh that could be interesting. Burke's ILG is fascinating...I have access to a copy from 1912 if anyone needs a look-up.

caroj

I hope Alexander Armstrongs Irish "landed gentry" ancesters is not the Middleton Estate in Sligo.......

ejmaztec

caroj wrote: »

I hope Alexander Armstrongs Irish "landed gentry" ancesters is not the Middleton Estate in Sligo.......

Whatever turns up will never improve on the spoof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c65QRaR16io

pinkypinky

Oh I do love that skit. I had tears running down my face watching it.

caroj

I didn't know who Alexander Armstrong was when I watched the sketch ages ago and when the WDYTYA lineup was announced I remembered him from it. very funny sketch indeed

R.Dub.Fusilier

pinkypinky wrote: »

Oh that could be interesting. Burke's ILG is fascinating...I have access to a copy from 1912 if anyone needs a look-up.

if its not too much trouble could you look up someone for me???
Frank Leslie Sheridan born 14-Nov-1892 formerly of the Indian Army with an address in Dublin his fathers name is Hugh. i think he was anglo-irish . thanks

Ponster

caroj wrote: »

I hope Alexander Armstrongs Irish "landed gentry" ancesters is not the Middleton Estate in Sligo.......

Nope.

An excellent episode IMHO.

pinkypinky

R.Dub.Fusilier wrote: »

if its not too much trouble could you look up someone for me???
Frank Leslie Sheridan born 14-Nov-1892 formerly of the Indian Army with an address in Dublin his fathers name is Hugh. i think he was anglo-irish . thanks

I nearly missed this! It's better to pm this sort of request - for future ref.
There's no Sheridan family in Burke's ILG 1912. I double-checked the current Burke's Peerage in case they had a title as well - none there either.

timespast

I'm getting weary of WDYTYA now......it's all story and very little research value.

I'd rather it turn (if at all) to real people's research ....those that do it for themselves.

pinkypinky

timespast wrote: »

I'm getting weary of WDYTYA now......it's all story and very little research value.

I'd rather it turn (if at all) to real people's research ....those that do it for themselves.

Well, luckily for you there's only one episode left in this season. We've said this before: it's entertainment, not pure genealogy and they wouldn't get the ratings or the interest if they were not doing celebrities. And while I wouldn't mind them showing a bit more research, no one wants to watch someone else going through hours of paper work or worse microfilm!:eek:

Alicat

pinkypinky wrote: »

Well, luckily for you there's only one episode left in this season. We've said this before: it's entertainment, not pure genealogy and they wouldn't get the ratings or the interest if they were not doing celebrities. And while I wouldn't mind them showing a bit more research, no one wants to watch someone else going through hours of paper work or worse microfilm!:eek:

6 hour episodes, in silence :pac:

Then the celeb turns to the camera and is asked "So, did you find anything?"

Celeb: "No, nothing today, unfortunately..."

Crew: "Right, ok then...."

*end of episode*

genie

Alicat wrote: »

6 hour episodes, in silence :pac:

Then the celeb turns to the camera and is asked "So, did you find anything?"

Celeb: "No, nothing today, unfortunately..."

Crew: "Right, ok then...."

*end of episode*

That sounds like a couple of the live Time Teams when they didn't find anything!

timespast

pinkypinky wrote: »

Well, luckily for you there's only one episode left in this season. We've said this before: it's entertainment, not pure genealogy and they wouldn't get the ratings or the interest if they were not doing celebrities. And while I wouldn't mind them showing a bit more research, no one wants to watch someone else going through hours of paper work or worse microfilm!:eek:

If you said it before then sorry but I wasn't around...I must have been researching.

Of course it's entertainment....... I've become weary of it.

I was thinking more of presenting this subject in another form......after all it cant be all about ratings. If that was the case RTE would of been closed down years ago.

Alicat

genie wrote: »

That sounds like a couple of the live Time Teams when they didn't find anything!

I love Time Team but Live is just a mistake :pac:

Alicat

Excellent episode to end on. I've always liked Alan Cumming but this episode really touched me. One of my favourites.

pinkypinky

Alicat wrote: »

Excellent episode to end on. I've always liked Alan Cumming but this episode really touched me. One of my favourites.

I was a bit disappointed - very little genealogy. I know I've made the point about entertainment before but this was just about what happened to his grandfather; albeit interesting and moving.

Best episodes of the series: Hugh Quarshie, Jason Donovan, honourable mention for Dearbhla Kirwan due to the Irish connection.

shanew

Even though there was not much real genealogy, I enjoyed last night's episode. The idea of his grandfather racing across open fields on his motorbike carrying boxes of ammo, near a enemy advance of 300 tanks being shot at is mad! If that happened in a movie it would be dismissed as unrealistic.

Agree with the best of episodes that pinkypinky mentioned - never heard of Hugh Quarshie before, but his episode was very interesting.


Shane

Alicat

Yeah Hugh's was great for the genealogy of it, but I just found him very dull and I didn't really care too much about him, and so ended up caring less about his story.

Even though Alan's whole programme was just about his grandad, no further genealogy, I found it very touching from an entertainment view I suppose. Sometimes a person's family tree may not be that exciting but the stories about a particular family member or two can really add a new dimension to the genealogy of it all, and help you connect more to that relative, and the family line.