€170,000 Bus Stop

Dravokivich

Dean09 wrote: »

Are you honestly defending the fact that 170k was spent on a poxy bus stop?

He's saying it wasn't just the bus stop that cost 170K. Which is all explained in the article.

banquo

D.R cowboy wrote: »

where did you go to school Africa, your obviously just looking for attention if you have to tell lies:rolleyes:

1. ''You're''

2. Oh please pay attention to me. I so desperately crave for a fellow internet person to notice me. I nearly started crying when I saw you had quoted my post.

*bursts into tears*

3. The school had puddles, and this is a waste of money.

El Guapo!

Dravokivich wrote: »

He's saying it wasn't just the bus stop that cost 170K. Which is all explained in the article.

Yeah but even if it wasnt just for the actual bus stop, its just a tad excessive dont ya think?

Dravokivich

Dean09 wrote: »

Yeah but even if it wasnt just for the actual bus stop, its just a tad excessive dont ya think?

Bus stop costs €170K - OMG SHOCK PANIC...

...wait €170k wasn't just for the bus stop itself... there were other things done as well then that totaled €170k... oh... well...

No, I don't find it excessive...

fakearms123

No one in DCU uses this bus stop on Collins Avenue, everyone uses the one on the ballymun road, what a waste!

Guy:Incognito

General Zod wrote: »

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Does noone read the article?

Clearly not.

It's better to have a good old rabble. This stop is a lot more complex than sticking a shelter on an existing bus stop. But sure that would incvolve a bit of effort beyond readign "€170,000 for a bus stop"

El Guapo!

Dravokivich wrote: »

Bus stop costs €170K - OMG SHOCK PANIC...

...wait €170k wasn't just for the bus stop itself... there were other things done as well then that totaled €170k... oh... well...

No, I don't find it excessive...

I accept that a portion of the cost was spent on the other extras that are highlighted in the article, but the point Im trying to get across is this, at a time when the country is on its arse and looking for money every way it can including the introduction of property taxes and water taxes likely to be implemented, then why in the name of god was that large sum of money not put to better use than upgrading a bus stop?
Surely the money would have been more beneficial elsewhere.

Guy:Incognito

"The country" give the councils a budget. The council spent the money as it saw fit.

If someone reckons FF used the money to line the pockets of their mates then it had to be doen with the approval of the other parties since they have councillors that would have been part of this decision.

But sure **** it, instead lets just say Brian Cowan personnally drew up the plans and funded it, with his brother doing the work.

El Guapo!

Stekelly wrote: »

But sure **** it, instead lets just say Brian Cowan personnally drew up the plans and funded it, with his brother doing the work.

I didnt say that.
If you think about it rationally for a second its as simple as this...it doesnt matter whether the extra costs incurred were for building supplies or jelly tots, the council wanted to put a bus stop at the side of the road and the end cost of said bus stop totalled at 170k. Thats excessive in any language.

orourkeda

So Awesome

bigbadbear

It shouldn't have happened but you have to remember there is alot more to construction than meets the eye. I'm more shocked at how the shelter costs €30,000 on its own. If they were a thousand euro then they could buy them and use the advertising revenue for themselves

galwayrush

Only in ireland, our Motorways somehow cost more to build here compare to ones with extra lanes in Germany. We even mamaged to spend over three times the amount on Dublin Airport's T 2 compared to what it cost to build the larger T5 in Frankfurt.:rolleyes:

Insulting_Bitch

General Zod wrote: »

Because it involved major structural and electrical work to the surrounding area, not just stiucking down a new bus stop.

It is not a new bus stop. It's bloody well refurbished with a wheelchair sign painted on the ground beside it.

AND IT IS USED FOR 1 Dublin Bus.
sorry for shouting

foxyboxer

..so they have spent 170k of the councils funds on a bus stop,the councils funds are subsidised by the exchequer. Was it 100% completely funded by advertising revenue?

The money is spent, so where exactly does the 170k go???? The journo doesn't even pay this any heed.
Who built the bus stop? who was contracted? Where was the money deposited? Show me the accounts. Who benefits? Was it all a lump sum or multiple invoices for the work? The money (possibly tax money, lest we forget) didn't simply disappear, we just need to know where it has gone since the work was completed. Has it been invested elsewhere and is now part of an individual or companies assets?

It is all very fishy. A little transparancy is very much needed!!

Augmerson

It's well known that when it comes to doing a job for the government, what should have cost say 20 euro ends up costing 200 euro, it's the company involved that shafts the government. That said, the government (or county council) should say "you can do this job but it must only cost us x amount, anything over it is your problem".

Andrew33

pablo_escobar wrote: »

That's not really the point.

Why does a bus shelter cost €170,000?

They could have found out how many disabled people live within a 500mtr radius of that bus stop and parked a wheelchair accessible taxi outside each ones house and still have spent less money!

bigbadbear

Augmerson wrote: »

It's well known that when it comes to doing a job for the government, what should have cost say 20 euro ends up costing 200 euro, it's the company involved that shafts the government. That said, the government (or county council) should say "you can do this job but it must only cost us x amount, anything over it is your problem".

Your right and this is how all government contracts are awarded now.

However, the article talks about installation of new ducting/ cables / Public lighting/ earth moving/ car parking so there is definitely more to the story than meets the eye.

If they encounter problems when digging they could have to reroute cables and everything. Maybe new minipillars or new esb connections which also cost money.

I clicked on this thread with anger running through my veins but everyone here can rest assured that this is by no means the worst case of money wasted.

The trucks on the M50 that spread the salt and put out cones have been upgraded from 08 to 09 to 10 every year.:mad::mad::mad::mad: They are all Mercedes Benz trucks and get little or no use. Vehicles like this should be upgraded on 10-20 year cycles hows that for a waste of money. These trucks cost so much its not even funny

Millicent

General Zod wrote: »

They didn't. Dublin Bus supplied the bus shelter which had been paid for through advertising revenue.

Does noone read the article?

I just read the article and it says that Bus Eireann supplied the bus stop for a cost of €30,000 but the council will bear the cost of the other €100,000 worth of work.

From the article:

The bill will ultimately be paid by the taxpayer, as the cost will be reimbursed to Dublin City Council by the Department of Transport.

There was a shedload of other work done but still €100,000 seems steep for what sounds like unnecessary work from people that know the bus stop in question.

hitbit

True they can't put it up anywhere but they should look for less expensive alternative sites. Administration Costs ???? It was not a tribunal after all. Structural works ???? It was a bus shelter. You could buy a site, apply for planning permission, engage a solicitor, employ a builder to clear the site and build a house for that amount and the house would be a s*** load bigger than a bus shelter. I live near this shelter and see it every day. It does not look like €170,000's worth. I wonder if this went out to tender.

hitbit

hardybuck

For 170k I'd personally stand there with an umbrella on wet days for those that would need it, which would be zero people. Handy money.

Steodonn

WTF. WE DONT EVEN NEED A BUS THERE NOBODY USES IT. Never mind of the cost the bus stop wasn't needed in the first place. Just the pole for the one bus that stops there would do

There is a bus stop just a few mins away that alot more people use

maninasia

foxyboxer wrote: »

..so they have spent 170k of the councils funds on a bus stop,the councils funds are subsidised by the exchequer. Was it 100% completely funded by advertising revenue?

The money is spent, so where exactly does the 170k go???? The journo doesn't even pay this any heed.
Who built the bus stop? who was contracted? Where was the money deposited? Show me the accounts. Who benefits? Was it all a lump sum or multiple invoices for the work? The money (possibly tax money, lest we forget) didn't simply disappear, we just need to know where it has gone since the work was completed. Has it been invested elsewhere and is now part of an individual or companies assets?

It is all very fishy. A little transparancy is very much needed!!

Yep, the journo is typical of most Irish journos...no real investigation, details, numbers. Break it down..let's see where the bad smell is coming from. Surely there's a right to this type of invoicing information? Somebody cottoned on that between Dublin City Council, Dublin Bus and the Dept. of Transport paying for the bill there was a bit of extra money to be made...

banquo

I'm pretty sure that only one bus uses that stop, the 103.